Qb situation

[tm1119]

does anybody think we should trade or sign a QB? I think we should. Lets be honest our O-line isnt very good and Bledsoe is a statue in the backfield the possibility of him getting hurt is pretty good. If after we adress our major needs(OT, LB, FS, K) and we still have enough money to sign one of the following I think we should do it. Keep in mind that these guys are either gonna get cut or be traded for a second day pick.

1. chad pennington
2. patrick ramsey
3. brian greise

 

[DragonCowboy]

quarterback issues should be addressed only after we address the Offensive Line, FS, LB, etc...

 

[tm1119]

"If after we adress our major needs(OT, LB, FS, K) and we still have enough money to sign one of the following I think we should do it"

exactly what i said

 

[Jimz31]

Bledsoe isn't one of those that is "injury prone". He got tagged really good that year that NE won the Superbowl. It was just one of those hits.

He survived this past entire year.

Lets just fix the o-line and give him better protection. There isn't a single QB out there that wouldn't be better with better protection.

It all begins with the O-line.

And no way would I want Pennington here. He's got a noodle for an arm thereby neutralizing any deep threat should we get a speedier WR to compliment Glenn.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

does anybody think we should trade or sign a QB? I think we should. Lets be honest our O-line isnt very good and Bledsoe is a statue in the backfield the possibility of him getting hurt is pretty good. If after we adress our major needs(OT, LB, FS, K) and we still have enough money to sign one of the following I think we should do it. Keep in mind that these guys are either gonna get cut or be traded for a second day pick.

1. chad pennington
2. patrick ramsey
3. brian greise

You have to be kidding me. This is the dumbest post I've seen yet.

First of all, Bledsoe is one of the most durable QB's of all time. He had one freak injury in 01' resulting in Tom Brady's medioric rise...that was merely fate.

Also the scrubs you listed can't even hold Bledsoe's jock on a good day. They are all injury prone bums or busts. We have a pennington, ramsey and griese on this team already...his name is Tony Romo.

Let's please stop with these nonsensical QB threads! We have one of the top QB's in the game, and he's still good for at least another 2 years before we have to consider looking at that position.

 

[Jimz31]

You have to be kidding me. This is the dumbest post I've seen yet.

First of all, Bledsoe is one of the most durable QB's of all time. He had one freak injury in 01' resulting in Tom Brady's medioric rise...that was merely fate.

Also the scrubs you listed can't even hold Bledsoe's jock on a good day. They are all injury prone bums or busts. We have a pennington, ramsey and griese on this team already...his name is Tony Romo.

Let's please stop with these nonsensical QB threads! We have one of the top QB's in the game, and he's still good for at least another 2 years before we have to consider looking at that position.

We NEED to start considering the QB position. You can't just throw that position off cuz he's good for another 2 years. We should have been doing this in Aikman's final 2 years.

We are where we are due to 2 things....the QB position and the o-line debacle.

Having said that, I still maintain that getting the o-line fixed is priority #1 when talking about ANY position on offense. It all begins AND ends with the o-line. You can't pass when you have nothing for protection and you can't run when there are no holes to run through.

 

[iceberg]

Let's please stop with these nonsensical QB threads!

you first.

 

[AbeBeta]

Wow. Drew is injury prone. That is amazing. He has not played in 20 games total over his career. And at least half of those he was healthy for (when Brady replaced him). He hasn't missed a game for 4 years.

Did anyone see the beating he took last year? Especially over the last 6 games or so? Against the Rams, Drew got tagged over and over but refused to come out. There isn't a single offensive player that doesn't respect the hell out of him because of the way he plays.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

We NEED to start considering the QB position. You can't just throw that position off cuz he's good for another 2 years. We should have been doing this in Aikman's final 2 years.

We are where we are due to 2 things....the QB position and the o-line debacle.

Having said that, I still maintain that getting the o-line fixed is priority #1 when talking about ANY position on offense. It all begins AND ends with the o-line. You can't pass when you have nothing for protection and you can't run when there are no holes to run through.

I wasn't ignoring the fact that Bledsoe isn't exactly a younster anymore. And yes we have to think ahead if Henson and Romo aren't the future. I'm just fed up with these silly suggestions...

1) Chad Pennington: Hasn't played an full season his entire career. Coming of a major injury that has lingered since the middle of the 04' season with his rotator cuff. Has NO ARM STRENGH whatsoever and that's a fact. But sure lets bring him in and replace Drew!

2) Patrick Ramsey: A guy who was benched in favor of a 37 year old QB in washington this season. Has shown nothing so far during his nfl career when he's been in there. But why not, maybe he can bring the skins mediorce offensive playbook with him!

3) Brian Griese: Nothing but a complete journeyman bum! Was exposed for the last time in tampa, got hurt and is done there too now that Simms has emerged. But hey he's light years ahead of bledsoe too right?

The bottom line these guys aren't rookies either, they've all had a chance to do something and only Pennington has had a little success out of the three. And that's not saying much considering he's spent most of his career on the shelf.

 

[iceberg]

Wow. Drew is injury prone. That is amazing. He has not played in 20 games total over his career. And at least half of those he was healthy for (when Brady replaced him). He hasn't missed a game for 4 years.

Did anyone see the beating he took last year? Especially over the last 6 games or so? Against the Rams, Drew got tagged over and over but refused to come out. There isn't a single offensive player that doesn't respect the hell out of him because of the way he plays.

i think you're seeing a rise of "opposition" to drew simply cause there are a few who won't miss a single opportunity to be his pimp in here. if those would be more "realistic" i imagine you'd see less anti-drew threads.

 

[iceberg]

I wasn't ignoring the fact that Bledsoe isn't exactly a younster anymore. And yes we have to think ahead if Henson and Romo aren't the future. I'm just fed up with these silly suggestions...

1) Chad Pennington: Hasn't played an full season his entire career. Coming of a major injury that has lingered since the middle of the 04' season with his rotator cuff. Has NO ARM STRENGH whatsoever and that's a fact. But sure lets bring him in and replace Drew!

2) Patrick Ramsey: A guy who was benched in favor of a 37 year old QB in washington this season. Has shown nothing so far during his nfl career when he's been in there. But why not, maybe he can bring the skins mediorce offensive playbook with him!

3) Brian Griese: Nothing but a complete journeyman bum! Was exposed for the last time in tampa, got hurt and is done there too now that Simms has emerged. But hey he's light years ahead of bledsoe too right?

The bottom line these guys aren't rookies either, they've all had a chance to do something and only Pennington has had a little success out of the three. And that's not saying much considering he's spent most of his career on the shelf.

i give you poppa pimp.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Wow. Drew is injury prone. That is amazing. He has not played in 20 games total over his career. And at least half of those he was healthy for (when Brady replaced him). He hasn't missed a game for 4 years.

Did anyone see the beating he took last year? Especially over the last 6 games or so? Against the Rams, Drew got tagged over and over but refused to come out. There isn't a single offensive player that doesn't respect the hell out of him because of the way he plays.

Please explain this to the people that think IR regulars like Chad Pennington and Dante Culpepper are the answer.:laugh1:

Drew has always took a lickin...but he keeps on tickin!

 

[tm1119]

i never said bledsoe was injury prone. i just said with the amount of hits he takes its a possibilty that he COULD get hurt. it only takes one to knock a guy out for a season.

and i didnt say that Bledsoe should be replaced now, im just saying it would be a good idea to sign a guy that is relatively young let him backup and learn the system so he is ready when Bledsoe is done. (whenever that may be)

and to compare Romo, who has never started an NFl game in his career, to guys who have led teams to the playoffs(with the exception of ramsey) is ridiculous.

and relax a little too man, not everybody is against your lover Bledsoe.

 

[Hostile]

You have to be kidding me. This is the dumbest post I've seen yet.

First of all, Bledsoe is one of the most durable QB's of all time. He had one freak injury in 01' resulting in Tom Brady's medioric rise...that was merely fate.

Also the scrubs you listed can't even hold Bledsoe's jock on a good day. They are all injury prone bums or busts. We have a pennington, ramsey and griese on this team already...his name is Tony Romo.

Let's please stop with these nonsensical QB threads! We have one of the top QB's in the game, and he's still good for at least another 2 years before we have to consider looking at that position.

Oh good, a temper tantrum.

 

[Paniolo22]

i give you poppa pimp.

 

[ghst187]

I fail to understand how some folks around here don't like Bledsoe. He may not be Payton Manning or Tom Brady but dude is a darn good QB. He's a tough SOB too. People knock on him that he has to have a good OL and a running game to excel....well here's a fast fact, so does every other QB in the league. Ask David Carr. Look what Bledsoe did when McGahee got healthy and started providing a running game during DB's last year in Buffalo..they were one of the hottest teams in the league. Look at some of our comeback wins this past season. Not too many QBs pull of what he was able to do. Look at what he did when we were able to run the ball effectively, and even a few that we couldn't.
There aren't too many QBs in the league right now that I'd prefer to have over DB. Having any of those backups listed above don't excite me either. I'd prefer to take my chances with Romo and Henson. Obviously the coaches seem to like Romo a lot so I'll trust that. Also, this draft is horrible for QBs. I wouldn't want any of them coming out. Cutler is the only one that would remotely interest me.
It is true though that we need to start thinking about and preparing for a few years down the road when DB starts declining. Signing a has-been or never-was isn't the answer. I think that if we determine that we don't have our future QB on the roster right now in Henson or Romo then we should look at making a big play next draft for Brady Quinn. He's special. I think DB still has a good 2-3 years left and giving Quinn 1-2 years to learn from a consumate pro would be a huge bonus....see Carson Palmer. Given our draft position in this coming draft and who's likely to be there versus what we should draft, trading out of the first round for an extra first next year might be a good idea and would give us ammo in case we decide we need to draft a QB. If we do that and decide we don't need a QB, heck there will be tons of VERY good WRs coming out and we'll definitely need one of those.

 

[iceberg]

because people like dorso4mvp with his midget bledsoe's on guitar shove him down our throats at each and every opportunity. it builds a resentment.

 

[DragonCowboy]

"If after we adress our major needs(OT, LB, FS, K) and we still have enough money to sign one of the following I think we should do it"

I didn't see that and I apologize. I agree with you 100% then...

 

[Hostile]

I fail to understand how some folks around here don't like Bledsoe. He may not be Payton Manning or Tom Brady but dude is a darn good QB. He's a tough SOB too. People knock on him that he has to have a good OL and a running game to excel....well here's a fast fact, so does every other QB in the league. Ask David Carr. Look what Bledsoe did when McGahee got healthy and started providing a running game during DB's last year in Buffalo..they were one of the hottest teams in the league. Look at some of our comeback wins this past season. Not too many QBs pull of what he was able to do. Look at what he did when we were able to run the ball effectively, and even a few that we couldn't.
There aren't too many QBs in the league right now that I'd prefer to have over DB. Having any of those backups listed above don't excite me either. I'd prefer to take my chances with Romo and Henson. Obviously the coaches seem to like Romo a lot so I'll trust that. Also, this draft is horrible for QBs. I wouldn't want any of them coming out. Cutler is the only one that would remotely interest me.
It is true though that we need to start thinking about and preparing for a few years down the road when DB starts declining. Signing a has-been or never-was isn't the answer. I think that if we determine that we don't have our future QB on the roster right now in Henson or Romo then we should look at making a big play next draft for Brady Quinn. He's special. I think DB still has a good 2-3 years left and giving Quinn 1-2 years to learn from a consumate pro would be a huge bonus....see Carson Palmer. Given our draft position in this coming draft and who's likely to be there versus what we should draft, trading out of the first round for an extra first next year might be a good idea and would give us ammo in case we decide we need to draft a QB. If we do that and decide we don't need a QB, heck there will be tons of VERY good WRs coming out and we'll definitely need one of those.

I can't speak for everyone G, but I'll chime in on this.

I have always liked Drew Bledsoe. I think very few who are critical of him here truly dislike him. I get real tired of being told I can't express an opinion of doubt about a player. My doubts about him are simple, his age. I simply would prefer to get on about the business of the long haul.

It is very hard for me to root for retreads. I like the home grown products a lot more. Don, Roger, Danny, Troy. All QBs that we groomed. Henson and Romo fit that bill. A very real part of me would like to see one of them take the job so I have a true Cowboy to root for at the most important position in the game.

I truly respect him and am glad he's here, but once he's gone I won't shed a tear. My attitude will be, "Thank you," and let's move on. I felt this same way about Vinny. I feel we replaced one retread with another.

On top of this you have the prevailing attitude from his most loyal fans that doubting him in any way is tantamount to treason and unforgivable. It gets old and quite frankly it is a complete turn off. You start wanting him gone so they shut up.

So while I am a fan of his and appreciate his contributions, I can't say that I am truly affected by his roster spot one way or the other. QB is the one position on the team that I want to be passionate about more than any other. I'm just not, because he's a retread looking to salvage a promising career and he's on the downhill slide.

I've recently posted about Brees or Culpepper and if we got one of them how would I feel. I'd still feel they were a retread but their age would be more attractive or palatable. I love Brett Favre, but for the last 3 years if he had been available I wouldn't have wanted him as much as I'd want one of our own products to take the job.

Psycho-analyze it any way you want to. I fail to see why having doubts about a player who hasn't accomplsihed the thing I crave most (Super Bowl Championships) makes me a bad person. I want the Cowboys to win. If he gets us there, great. Thank you Drew Bledsoe. I won't pretend it would mean as much to me as if Romo or Henson or some kid down the road that we draft does the same. Because it won't.