QB vs. System?

[bodi]

it reflects poorly on Garrett and his staff.

ON WHO MAYBE THE QB COACH

WADE WILSON

 

[TimHortons]

I agree it looks bad for the coaching staff, who I won't defend at all, but...

Weeden was 11/18 for 105 yards and a touchdown. His team scored 16 points. He didn't light the world on fire.

The Texans defense won that game. Lets not get carried away.

Then I guess it's a indictment of our defense not being able to step up when we needed them. Either way, this team crumbled when players and coaches to step up to the plate with Romo gone

 

[Alexander]

So Weeden. leads the Texans to win today after only a few weeks in the system but neither him nor cassel can help our team to win at all?? Does that make our problem bad backup quarterbacks or bad system??

The answer is pretty clear but nobody wants to admit it. This system is geared so far towards Romo that it is difficult for anyone else to function in it.

It is so much easier to say Weeden is horrible and Cassel is horrible. They are but this staff did neither of them any favors.

 

[Alexander]

But Hasselback has won games with the Colts..

And Vick with the Steelers. And Rams. And 49ers. And Bengals. And Broncos.

Love this article from September though.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...s-from-1-32-cowboys-fine-steelers-are-screwed

Oops.

 

[maxdallasfan]

I believe it's our scheme and lack of creativity.

Witten gets mauled as soon as the ball hits his hands.
Dez gets mauled as soon as the ball hits is hands.
TWill does not get mauled as soon as the ball hits his hands because his only catches are when the defender screws up.
Beasley gets mauled as soon as the ball hits his hands.
Our WR screens are crap 9 times out of 10

JG's creativity is gone. He's become too conservative.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Are you people serious? Weeden is in a place where he is not in the spot light and there is no pressure there in Houston. Kellen Moore knows the offense period, because the offense is Scott Linehans mixed with Jason Garrett's and Romo's input. So Scott only needed to call plays from his part of the offense and Moore has that down pat. He did good, I believe the backup QB is no longer a priority now.
This Offense is so geared to Romo that it is hard for another QB to run it with a lot of success, Moore has something to him.
Weeden's success today does not mean our coaching staff is bad or that the texans is better/. I have heard Garrett many times thru out these past 5 yrs take blame when he needs to take the blame and sometimes when he does not. So all the people that says he does not is lying

All that Garrett accepting blame talk must have gotten lost amidst all the talk of cleaning things up and the process, stacking good days on top of good days, and defining who you are talk. Or maybe that accepting blame memo was hidden behind the nameless jersey dummy at VR. Or somebody left it on a table at the World Trade Center dinner.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

JG's creativity is gone.

You mean he had some?

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I don't feel that Weeden should be given an "attaboy" for playing Jason Garrett ball against one of the worst defensive teams in the league. The Texans sixteen points is the only time this season that a team has failed to score twenty points on the Colts.

Sixteen points here loses games.

Weeden came in at the end of the first half and the Texans has zero points. He also has been with the team for barely a month. Pull the other lever.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Weeden came in at the end of the first half and the Texans has zero points. He also has been with the team for barely a month. Pull the other lever.

And? 16 points against the Colts is still 16 points against the Colts. Weeden was terrible with the Browns and the Cowboys and now people are supposed to be impressed with him putting up sixteen points. I'm sorry dude, but that bar being set is just embarrassingly low if that is somehow impressive.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Pretty obvious that it's the system that is broke..again stating the obvious "owner" issue
and the fact we still have Wade Wilson coaching our boys when he couldn't teach preschoolers
had to eat without using their hands

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

The answer is pretty clear but nobody wants to admit it. This system is geared so far towards Romo that it is difficult for anyone else to function in it.

It is so much easier to say Weeden is horrible and Cassel is horrible. They are but this staff did neither of them any favors.

The offense needs an elite QB to function. Kind of scary for a team that has drafted like three legit QBs in the last 25 years.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

The offense needs an elite QB to function. Kind of scary for a team that has drafted like three legit QBs in the last 25 years.

Who would those 3 legit QB's be?

Even if we go back to Aikman, thats one. Does Quincy count as one of the 3? If my life depended on coming up with 3 legit QB's we have drafted in 25 years, well, I'd be dead . . . . .

 

[Super_Kazuya]

And? 16 points against the Colts is still 16 points against the Colts. Weeden was terrible with the Browns and the Cowboys and now people are supposed to be impressed with him putting up sixteen points. I'm sorry dude, but that bar being set is just embarrassingly low if that is somehow impressive.

Are you really this dense or are you just pretending? If he played 1 down and completed 1 pass, would you say "completing 1 pass against the Colts is terrible"? The team scored 16 points in basically one half, which is just fine. Looks like we have another crybaby who just can't deal with Weeden having even an ounce of success because it makes them look stupid for blaming all of the Cowboys problems on him. Weeden played well in a meaningful game, and it's making a bunch of losers on this board strangely angry.

 

[TimHortons]

You mean he had some?

Back when TO was here, there was some. I remember TO used to line up all over the field, in total contrast to Dez now.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Back when TO was here, there was some. I remember TO used to line up all over the field, in total contrast to Dez now.

Seems like a life time ago . . . .

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Are you really this dense or are you just pretending? If he played 1 down and completed 1 pass, would you say "completing 1 pass against the Colts is terrible"? The team scored 16 points in basically one half, which is just fine. Looks like we have another crybaby who just can't deal with Weeden having even an ounce of success because it makes them look stupid for blaming all of the Cowboys problems on him. Weeden played well in a meaningful game, and it's making a bunch of losers on this board strangely angry.

Your post indicates two things: You have no clue what you are talking about as it pertains to me and #2, you should probably migrate to the "Let's all be happy and agree with each other zone" because not everyone feels the way you do. I don't have to agree with your post, that's life.

#1 - Weeden threw for 105 yards in over two quarters. Yeah, I am not impressed with it. He would be averaging about 200 yards a game at that clip. Guess what Dallas is averaging? 205. I don't like that in Dallas, so I am not going to be impressed with it in Houston. It stinks. If you want to be, then you go right ahead, but that is bottom of the barrel in the NFL, just like what everyone is complaining about with this team right now today. Why should I like that when I hate it here? I do not.

#2 - I have not defended the coaching staff. I have criticized them for multiple things including thinking Weeden was a good back-up for Romo. If they wanted Cassel they should have traded for him in the offseason. Their gameplans of playing not to lose are ridiculous and embarrassing.

Don't associate words with people without basis dude. It makes you look petty.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Who would those 3 legit QB's be?

Even if we go back to Aikman, thats one. Does Quincy count as one of the 3? If my life depended on coming up with 3 legit QB's we have drafted in 25 years, well, I'd be dead . . . . .

Well, bear in mind that when I say "legit", I mean college players that are considered legit QB prospects at the NFL level. So, guys like Patrick Crayton who were drafted to be a WR would not be someone I would consider. They nabbed the mighty Bill Musgrave in 1991, Quincy and then Stephen McGee in 2009. Only one of them picked before the fourth round. They need to seriously consider revisiting the way they feel about quarterbacks imo.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Garrett is above reproach so Im sure he doesnt feel the need to accept blame. Besides, its all part of the process and watching the tape to see what needs to get cleaned up.

He should stop watching tape from the 90s. No wonder he can't figure out this team has problems.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

They need to seriously consider revisiting the way they feel about quarterbacks imo.

For sure

 

[maxdallasfan]

You mean he had some?

Early on as a Genius OC he did. He used to run specific plays just to set up the D for situations later in the game.