Question for the Eagles fans

[5Stars]

Since those of you who post here are rational, intelligent, & fun to chat with...I'm reading PFT, which is talking about the preparations Fox is having to take for the game. Yes, I realize it's PFT, but some of it does seem to have merit. They're talking about how the fans are really planning to scream as many foul-mouthed insults as possible, interrupt the broadcasts, throw things on the field, try to "unnerve" TO. It even sounds like there may be physical danger to TO & Jimmy Johnson (who'll be covering the game).

I guess my question is, why? It's one player. Are the fans there really that crazed? Realistically, Terry Glenn is far more dangerous out there on the field than TO. I would think they'd spend more energy rooting FOR their team & gloating when the team has a good play then make the city look so bad. (I'd also think it has more of an impact on the Eagles than TO. He LOVES it when people are saying bad things about him. Personally, I think the Eagles are going to let all that anti-TO hysteria influence them into focusing more on TO & less on some of the other players.) Seriously--you have a good team. Why don't fans concentrate on that?

I live in DC, & I actually enjoy visiting Philly. I have friends there. My nephew graduated from Valley Forge. I guess I'm just baffled at why so many fans insist on making their city look so bad. In a lot of other stadiums, you can dismiss it as being a small group of idiots, but it's so widespread there. Aren't there more of you rational fans who can get it across to others how bad they look, or do they just not care?

They do it because cowards are powerful in numbers...get one of them by themselves and they pee their pants...

Punks and thugs...and they are proud of it!

Oh, did I mention that they are LOSERS?!!

 

[WV Cowboy]

superpunk....i think that person who typed the response was being sarcastic or just having fun, that was pretty extreme.

in another thread i made the point of saying that all eagles fans are not crazed maniacs, i know plenty of eagles fans that are totally cool. Though I do know some eagles fans that wont take their families to the game because it is too wild and there are going to be some folks at this game that are going to be out of control.

Its not good that this game starts at 4 and many people will start drinking before noon. By halftime there will be many blitzed eagles fans.

To those posters here who are cowboys fans and who are going to the game, I would add that I myself would not take my child or a woman to this game.

I agree, so lets see, .. can't take my wife, can't take my kids, can't wear my Cowboys gear, ...

All things considered, I would just pick a different game to go to and watch on TV.

No kidding, I am serious.

 

[skinsscalper]

O please, you act like eagles fans should bo Terry Glen as much a guy who trashed and destroryed the eagles team and organization last year.........get a clue

First of all, let's get one thing straight. The Eagles organization, coaching staff, and Donovan McNabb destroyed the Eagles team last year, NOT T.O.

Was T.O. a distraction? Absolutely! Did T.O. act as a self serving jerk about an issue, in which, some disagreed with and others wholeheartedly agreed with (including half of the Eagles locker room)? No doubt about it! Did he go about his business in the wrong way? I think a majority of people would say "yes" (myself included). But, one fact that the Eagirls homer faithful fail to acknowldege is the absence of a set of balls by the front office, Reid, and Donovan McNabb. THAT and THAT ALONE is what doomed this organization last year.

Rather than stepping up and supporting his teammate (a teammate who, by the way, vaulted McNabb to a career year in touchdowns, yardage, completion %, and his ONLY SuperBowl appearance) Mcnabb took the company line high road and played Uncle Tom with a "shut up and play" attitude while relishing in the numbers of his $100+ million dollar contract. The Eagles organization has been notorious for letting solid, contributing players walk (rather than re-signing them at market value) while staying 10's of millions of dollars under the salary cap. Whether you like it or you don't there WERE and ARE players in the Eagles organization that resent McNabb AND THE EAGLES ORGANIZATION for his/their attitude regarding that particular matter (hence the divided locker room). Once that stance was taken by McNabb, he was fair game and the season was open on his play and lack of leadership by Owens (publicly) and other team members (privately). "How can you say McNabb lacks leadership?" you might ask. Well, it's simple. You see, Owens made no bones about voicing his view on McNabb's shortcomings as a leader and a QB. McNabb's response? Nothing. Not a word. He didn't even have the balls to defend himself. I don't know about you, but I would have a hard time following the lead of a player who doesn't even have the guts to defend himself (and if you think that there weren't people in the locker room who felt the same way, then you are truly livingin fantasy land).

Another thing that Eagirls homers fail to realize OR admit is that there wasn't a single untruth that came out of Owens' mouth regarding McNabb OR the organization. WAS McNabb the one who pooped out in the waning minutes of the Super Bowl? Yep, sure was. Owens didn't poop out and HE is the one who spent his existence preparing himself to return to the field in a, normally, unrealistic time frame recuperating from an injury that should have kept out WELL beyond the end of the season. Owens gave it everything. McNabb gave.......well......not as much. Would Brett Favre have been a better QB for the Eagirls last year? Without a doubt. At that point, McNabb was becoming completely ineffective. "Well, he was injured!" you may proclaim. Well, that may be true, but it's amazing how McNabb was healthy enough to moonwalk and throw in a little Michael Jackson kick into his TD celebration routine (seconds after scoring what he thought was a game WINNING TD, while RUNNING THE BALL of all things), yet a short 3 minutes later was too injured to continue the season after throwing the game LOSING interception and suffering that "crushing" love tap from Bradie James while Roy Williams raced by for the game winning TD.

As far as Reid goes, he was the one who should have taken the reigns of this team when things started spinning out of control and dealt with Owens appropriately. Though, fortunately for the Eagirls faithful, it only took Reid a mere six weeks into the season to find his nutsack and do what he should have done in pre-season (inactivate Owens). This thing NEVER would have gotten that far out of control with a Parcells, or Saban, or Gruden, or Cowher, or Holmgren or 20 other head coaches in the league at the head of that situation. Yet Reid and Uncle Tom get a pass because they have been at the helm of leading this proud organization to the pinnacle of underachaivement. Second only to the Buffalo Bills of the early 90's. Kudos boys!

As far as the Eagles organization, itself, it's as low class as the felonious mob that filled Veteran's Stadium for years on end. They have been notorious for low-balling their own players or straight out letting them walk, while staying WAY below the allocated salary cap. It's one thing to fall short of a goal when you exhaust all your resources to acheive the aforementioned goal. It's a completely different animal when you CONSISTENTLY fall short of that goal knowing that you had other means at your disposal. I'll put it to you this way, many Eagles fans are glad to be rid of T.O.'s antics bid him farewell. That's fine. But the Eagles look like a half way decent team this year with SOME production from a 1st rnd WR pick and a cast-off the (offensive juggernaut ) Saints team. With a healthy, happily paid T.O., this Eagles team could be, potentially, unstoppable. UNSTOPPABLE! Unfortunately, for the Eagrils fans, Jeffery "low-ball" Lurie didn't think it was worth the dime to invest in such a thing. And, in summary, the Eagles and their fan base will find themselves in a familiar situation at the end of the year. A season unfulfilled with a couple million left in the tank. Enjoy!



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[Danny White]

Since those of you who post here are rational, intelligent, & fun to chat with...I'm reading PFT, which is talking about the preparations Fox is having to take for the game. Yes, I realize it's PFT, but some of it does seem to have merit. They're talking about how the fans are really planning to scream as many foul-mouthed insults as possible, interrupt the broadcasts, throw things on the field, try to "unnerve" TO. It even sounds like there may be physical danger to TO & Jimmy Johnson (who'll be covering the game).

I guess my question is, why? It's one player. Are the fans there really that crazed? Realistically, Terry Glenn is far more dangerous out there on the field than TO. I would think they'd spend more energy rooting FOR their team & gloating when the team has a good play then make the city look so bad. (I'd also think it has more of an impact on the Eagles than TO. He LOVES it when people are saying bad things about him. Personally, I think the Eagles are going to let all that anti-TO hysteria influence them into focusing more on TO & less on some of the other players.) Seriously--you have a good team. Why don't fans concentrate on that?

I live in DC, & I actually enjoy visiting Philly. I have friends there. My nephew graduated from Valley Forge. I guess I'm just baffled at why so many fans insist on making their city look so bad. In a lot of other stadiums, you can dismiss it as being a small group of idiots, but it's so widespread there. Aren't there more of you rational fans who can get it across to others how bad they look, or do they just not care?

Asking this question is like asking a dog why it eats its own poo.

First of all, you're unlikely to get an intelligible answer. And secondly, it doesn't make sense... it's just in its nature.

 

[superpunk]

Asking this question is like asking a dog why it eats its own poo.

First of all, you're unlikely to get an intelligible answer. And secondly, it doesn't make sense... it's just in its nature.

Awesome.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Realistically, Terry Glenn is far more dangerous out there on the field than TO.

Stop smoking weed before posting. Terry Glenn is a very good receiver, but there is NO WAY he is even close to the caliber receiver TO is.

Receivers generally have five main traits.

1. Speed
2. Size
3. Ability to run good routes
4. Smart
5. Strong

Glenn is a Santana Moss type receiver. He has speed, smarts, and the ability to run good routes.

TO on the other hand possesses all five traits as Jerry Rice did. He has speed, size, routes, strong, and is a smart receiver. Randy Moss is another receiver that has all the skills. Possessing all the skills seems to make you a head-case. Terry Glenn isn't in TO's class as a receiver.

The only people I see that say Terry Glenn is more dangerous are those that have at least a seed of TO hate. Stop the hating. As 'ol Rayfield said. He may not be a saint, but he is a Dallas Cowboy!

 

[hardcorebob]

Asking this question is like asking a dog why it eats its own poo.

First of all, you're unlikely to get an intelligible answer. And secondly, it doesn't make sense... it's just in its nature.

Classic and the absolute truth! No class breeds no sportmanship, hence the craptacular Eagles fans. I've been to many Cowboy's home games and I've never seen a worse fan than the Eagles one's. Always have to yell profanitites, slurs, act like high school kids and show their *****. Why? The world may never know......

 

[WV Cowboy]

Though, fortunately for the Eagirls faithful, it only took Reid a mere six weeks into the season to find his nutsack
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:laugh1:

 

[Danny White]

Stop smoking weed before posting. Terry Glenn is a very good receiver, but there is NO WAY he is even close to the caliber receiver TO is.

Receivers generally have five main traits.

1. Speed
2. Size
3. Ability to run good routes
4. Smart
5. Strong

Glenn is a Santana Moss type receiver. He has speed, smarts, and the ability to run good routes.

TO on the other hand possesses all five traits as Jerry Rice did. He has speed, size, routes, strong, and is a smart receiver. Randy Moss is another receiver that has all the skills. Possessing all the skills seems to make you a head-case. Terry Glenn isn't in TO's class as a receiver.

The only people I see that say Terry Glenn is more dangerous are those that have at least a seed of TO hate. Stop the hating. As 'ol Rayfield said. He may not be a saint, but he is a Dallas Cowboy!

I'd add "Hands" to this list... a category in which Glenn wins hands-down. :

But all in all I'd agree with you, TO is a more dangerous receiver... perhaps one of the most dangerous of all time.

 

[Hoov]

I agree, so lets see, .. can't take my wife, can't take my kids, can't wear my Cowboys gear, ...

All things considered, I would just pick a different game to go to and watch on TV.

No kidding, I am serious.

Sad but True WV.

And i am not one for turning the other cheek when someone is screaming at me and insulting me so I would get right back in that persons face, but if my daughter was with me, well that wouldnt be good. Also, if someone said something really nasty to her i would probably go ballistic. You know how it is for fathers being protective of their daughters.

Now i am planning on going to a sports bar with my friend who is an eagles fan but totally cool. And i will wear my R Williams jersey, but its not the same as the energy that will be at the stadium so i am not anticipating any problems. sure, ill get some jeers and stares but i wont be obnoxious back and i'll be respectful of the fact that i am basically a cowboys fan in a philly sports bar and that i should expect some r***ing.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'd add "Hands" to this list... a category in which Glenn wins hands-down. :

But all in all I'd agree with you, TO is a more dangerous receiver... perhaps one of the most dangerous of all time.

Whoops, forgot that one. We've almost had a *technical meltdown* at work today. I think my brain is in information overload.

 

[5Stars]

Enjoy!



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I did! Every word you typed is the TRUTH....!

If that supposed "Gold Standard" front office would have spent a few measly million of their stashed money to satisfy one of the best receivers to ever play this game, the eagles would EASILY be favored to get back to the dance this year...

McFatso could not handle T.O. because the filthy fans were rooting for T.O. rather then the choke artist that he felt threatned by that, so, he does not back T.O. on the money issue, instead, taking a shot at T.O. saying the team did not need him to win a SuperBowl...McFatso did not like to share his 100 million dollar spotlight for the good of the team...no, he's to insecure for that, and insecurity breeds losers...which in turn trickles down to the "fandoms" and they in turn become losers...as it should be!

Yeah, T.O. really blew that organization up! He must be a hell of lot more powerful then I thought...

or, the eagle organization is more stupid then I thought, including McVomit!

 

[Hoov]

Hoov, that was like 10 different people and different responses. The OP was saying let's be classy. The response wasn't that great.

It's lazy to just say they're all crap, but they have a reputation, many like that reputation, and will do anything to further that reputation.

Ok i guess thats fair, and your last sentence was spot on, there are eagles fans that love the reputation they have built.

The thing is that when so many of them get together and get drunk it just takes on a life of its own. You know the thing is, growing up I just always thought it was like that, that it was normal for home fans to scream and curse and yell at visiting fans. Until people told me what it was like at other places they have gone.

 

[Gus]

I live about 45 minutes from the Linc in the suburbs here and I am a Cowboys, yes, Cowboys season ticket holder. Why? Because I cannot go to a game in Philly without looking over my shoulder the whole time. I cannot cheer on the Cowboys without getting heckled to the point where many (not all) Eagle fans will take it upon their drunken selves to attempt to physically harm me. It happened to me once at the Vet--I vowed never again would I go through that. I remember the Eagles fans yelling at me to 'go back to Dallas you loser!'. Well, I guess I did because now I can watch my favorite team without worrying if anything will happen if I choose to cheer, etc.

It's a sad state of affairs. Believe me, I would love to be there Sunday at the game but it really isn't worth the risk. Why? Well, there is this little thing called 'alcohol'. As someone wrote here: The Eagles fans will be starting to drink really early for this one and they will be out of control by kickoff--that's for sure. I could go down there without any Cowboys gear, keep my mouth shut and I still would be asking for trouble. Good luck if you are a Cowboys fan attending the game Sunday. Wear a suit of armor!

 

[skinsscalper]

I live about 45 minutes from the Linc in the suburbs here and I am a Cowboys, yes, Cowboys season ticket holder. Why? Because I cannot go to a game in Philly without looking over my shoulder the whole time. I cannot cheer on the Cowboys without getting heckled to the point where many (not all) Eagle fans will take it upon their drunken selves to attempt to physically harm me. It happened to me once at the Vet--I vowed never again would I go through that. I remember the Eagles fans yelling at me to 'go back to Dallas you loser!'. Well, I guess I did because now I can watch my favorite team without worrying if anything will happen if I choose to cheer, etc.

It's a sad state of affairs. Believe me, I would love to be there Sunday at the game but it really isn't worth the risk. Why? Well, there is this little thing called 'alcohol'. As someone wrote here: The Eagles fans will be starting to drink really early for this one and they will be out of control by kickoff--that's for sure. I could go down there without any Cowboys gear, keep my mouth shut and I still would be asking for trouble. Good luck if you are a Cowboys fan attending the game Sunday. Wear a suit of armor!

Mob mentality is a curious thing. It's an opportunity for your average every day p**** to rally around the the strength in numbers of a bunch of other average everyday p****** and act like a tough guy. There, in a nutshell, is a pretty accurate description of your average Eagles game attendee. It'd be interesting to see that average p**** in another team's stadium and see if he actually had the balls to exhibit the same behavior. A tough guy will beat your a**. A chicken**** will wait for his buddies to rally around and then he'll TELL you he's gonna beat your a**. That's an Eagles fan at the Linc. Pure chicken****.

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[BeWare94]

I don't think they feel they make the city look bad.

It is the Philly, Jersey, "yo adrian", beer drinkin', barfighting, blue collar type fanbase.

They are passionate, crazed, and hungry for championship caliber teams.

They take it to extremes, it becomes a mob mentality, and some probably do things that they wouldn't normally do.

Like I said, they don't think what they do is wrong, it is just who they are.

It is the culture in that part of the country.(S Jersey, Philly)

you're from WV, though. LOL

Seriously, it looks bad to the rest of the country looking in.

 

[BeWare94]

I think the T.O. and emmitt situations are a little different buddy

definitely

 

[BeWare94]

Mcnabb took the company line high road and played Uncle Tom with a "shut up and play" attitude while relishing in the numbers of his $100+ million dollar contract.

Good overall post but this phrase was a freaking mouthful that I couldn't ignore. The Eagles tagline was that they had one of the best teams in the league, had been to 4 straight NFC championship games and they were so far under the cap that Cap Hell would never come.

The problem was/is when you win you have to pay the price of success. When you win and stay competitive you have to pay the Corey Simons, Brian Dawkinses, Duce Staleys, Jeremiah Trotters and Hugh Douglases as well as the Donovan McNabbs. Look at how the whole scenario went down: the Eagles were maintaining success, McNabb got paid, other solid contributors got flushed. A lot of the other Eagles were probably thinking 'we're 20 million under the cap, I've been to the last 3-4 probowls and I can't get a raise, too?!' THAT DIVIDES A LOCKER ROOM.

Once again, it isn't all about the money, per se. Just because Donovan got 100 million dollars doesn't mean you have to give everyone 100 million but you need to give your standouts new deals just to show that you appreciate their integral part in your success. I bet the money issue did more to rend that Eagle locker room apart than the Owens-McNabb feud.

Also adding to the fire was the fact McNabb could have went to bat for his teammates like the Patriots' Tom Brady went to bat for then-teammate Deion Branch but McNabb did not...but I guess we needn't mention the difference between Tom Brady and Donovan McNabb. That's a-whole-nother thread.

 

[Doomsday]

Since Eagle fan is nice enough to answer a question I have one for you guys. What is it like routing for losers?

 

[5Stars]

Since Eagle fans is nice enough to answer a question I have one for you guys. What is it like routing for losers?

Birds of a feather, flock together!

Loser birds, that is! Thank you very much!!