Question for the pro-Dak fans on here?

[acr731]

Like I just said to another poster, I can make the point that you and the rest of the Anti-Dak Crew make excuses for everyone NOT named Dak...according to you guys, the D sucks because of Dak's deficiencies. And, the coaching is bad...because of Dak's deficiencies. That's all we get treated to week after week. I wonder what other teams that are supposed to be good to great teams have a defense that can only play well when they have a lead...or, if there are other coaches that have philosophies/schemes that are so good, you could basically plug and play folks at various positions (including QB).

Part of the reason why the defense sucks is because the offense (notice I said offense, not Dak) is having a big problem with time of possession. The defense can't be on the field 45 minutes a game, the offense has to do their part and they are not doing their job.

 

[JeffInDC]

First, I haven't always been so anti-Dak, but pretty neutral on him. He's been pretty good. He's been better than a lot of the bum QBs on the bottom feeders of the league. But lately I'm tired of him. He's not good enough and never will be. It's not going to change after 10 years. And so far this year after getting his record deal, he sucks.

Second, I never said he had anything to do with the defense being bad. That's a separate issue.

The real question is, why are you and others so defensive of Dak? Why are you so devoted to him? Don't you want the team to do well, or just for Dak to get his praise?

Thank you for illustrating my ENTIRE point - I said verbatim that Dak is sucking right now. How the hell is me saying a player is "sucking right now" defending him? But, when I combine Dak is sucking with any other critiques of this team, then, according to you and others, I'm defending someone that I literally said is "sucking right now". Make it make sense.

 

[WillieBeamen]

I think what Dez was trying to say was "the issues on this team are SOLELY Daks fault."

The fact you are trying to make it seem like Dez is defending Dak is laughable considering most people blame Dak for Dez being sent on his way. Dez isnt the type to just blow smoke to do it. Hes pretty outspoken.

This entire team needs to be called out. Constantly and a lot. Including Dak.

Wait, you dont think Dez is defending Dak? Lol


Stay out my mentions man

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Help me understand. If Boy wonder average 1 TD and .8 picks per game why is it a problem when Dak is doing better than that???

Is it because Emmitt carried the team with 74 100+ yard games and we currently average 50 when we lose.

How come Troy could only win 40% of the time when Emmitt did not play or did not get 100 yards.

Please help me understand???

I get it when Troy lost, it most have been Emmitt's fault.

Because 1993 it was a completely different sport than in 2024

In 1993 you can win super bowls doing that. In 2024 you can’t even keep your job doing that

 

[JeffInDC]

Part of the reason why the defense sucks is because the offense (notice I said offense, not Dak) is having a big problem with time of possession. The defense can't be on the field 45 minutes a game, the offense has to do their part, and they are not doing their job.

Perfectly said. Dak IS a major malfunction right now. So is the OL. And, Dak and CeeDee are OBVIOUSLY NOT on the same page. The question I've been asking myself for 4 y+ years now is why has the FO with their lack of moves created a team that can only function when they're ahead, ESPECIALLY the D?

 

[MyFairLady]

Dak is the 60 million dollar CEO and leader of this football team. He sets the standard for everyone. He sets the standard for toughness. He sets the standard for preparedness. He sets the standard for commitment. He sets the standard for attention to detail.

If you pay your QB 60 million you hand him the team. Dak has zero interest in holding his team mates accountable. He has zero interest in raising the standards. He has set the standard so low what you see on the field is the end result.

He was great as a rookie who was buddy buddy with everyone. A guy on a cheap deal that would go for one read then take off.

He is turning into a complete disaster as a "franchise" guy.

 

[JeffInDC]

They're not 5-0 if they have Dak. Mahomes isn't the sole reason for their record, but he definitely makes a difference, more so than Dak ever will.

Ok. What games THIS YEAR have been lost SOLELY because of Dak?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Defying all logics of physics in doing so. Dude is running almost full-speed in one direction and wanted him to somehow stop, turn around, and deflect that way underthrown pass in .5 seconds

This is crazy

I agree. It's the most absurd thing to say that it is on Lamb with that particular interception. Lamb was headed to the back corner of the endzone, ball was intercepted closer to the front of the endzone.

Had that defender not broke off his assignment and made a great play, it most likely is a TD. Dak needs to see that defender and put some air on it.

Clearly on Dak

 

[CarolinaFathead]

Who?

Idk specifically. Any team that wanted a starting QB who had an All-Pro season in his CV because they had a deficiency at QB with their current roster. A lot of teams are in that boat right now and would have been potential suitors for Dak. Teams are wildly overpaying for QBs and it’s been trending that way since Flacco broke the bank after Baltimore’s SB run. I wish Dak had hit the open market because I think he would have been a good test case for the potential deflation the NFL QB market needs. I’m not saying it’s guaranteed he would have gotten $60 million. I’m just pessimistic he wouldn’t have gotten that. Teams are wildly over valuing QBs and have been for the last 10-15 years. Who that team would have been, I can’t say. I just wish we didn’t pay him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak carries the blame because his play is inconsistent and he rarely rises to the occasion against good teams.

But this thread isnt about that. My question is why the need for excuses for him constantly? And its not just a CZ thing. Local members do it all the time. National media members do it. If Dak was unfairly criticized, I can somewhat understand it. But hes not.

again, you want to singularly blame Dak. this debacle is not one person. its the whole dang thing.

yes, Dak has been inconsistent. I can't disagree. he is not excused. I said it clearly. he is also at fault. he has to be better. but when you lose 47-9, it takes more than one player being inconsistent.
and Dak's criticism is warranted. but so is everybody else should get criticised.

who has been consistent? defense? is anyone on the defense consistent? in the past 3 home games. the opposition has scored 25 of 36 posessions....that's pathetic. Detroit scored on 9 of 10 possessions.

 

[JeffInDC]

Stop arguing semantics. “A full pass on his bad play”. When guys like Stephen A, doesnt even have Dak as a top-5 reason why the Cowboys are this bad, my point stands.

Theres several threads on Zeke and about how terrible he is. Why is no one saying, “yea Zeke isnt playing well but the OL sucks!”?

So now Stephen A. (a guy who never played Pro Football) is the litmus test on legitimacy. But, when Dez speaks, his point isn't valid because in your mind he and Dak are boys. Ok. Once again, you're showing that you only believe your point of view is the correct one.

 

[JeffInDC]

again, you want to singularly blame Dak. this debacle is not one person. its the whole dang thing.

yes, Dak has been inconsistent. I can't disagree. he is not excused. I said it clearly. he is also at fault. he has to be better. but when you lose 47-9, it takes more than one player being inconsistent.
and Dak's criticism is warranted. but so is everybody else should get criticised.

who has been consistent? defense? is anyone on the defense consistent? in the past 3 home games. the opposition has scored 25 of 36 posessions....that's pathetic. Detroit scored on 9 of 10 possessions.

It's like you can ONLY criticize Dak to get the approval from the Anti-Dak guys. To a person, I think we're almost at a 100% hit rate on folks saying Dak is playing bad. But, to them, that isn't enough.

 

[phildadon86]

Wait, you dont think Dez is defending Dak? Lol


Stay out my mentions man

He may be. But if he is I think he has more credibility than both of us. Do you not? Considering Dak is the one who ran Dez out of town.

 

[WillieBeamen]

again, you want to singularly blame Dak. this debacle is not one person. its the whole dang thing.

yes, Dak has been inconsistent. I can't disagree. he is not excused. I said it clearly. he is also at fault. he has to be better. but when you lose 47-9, it takes more than one player being inconsistent.
and Dak's criticism is warranted. but so is everybody else should get criticised.

who has been consistent? defense? is anyone on the defense consistent? in the past 3 home games. the opposition has scored 25 of 36 posessions....that's pathetic. Detroit scored on 9 of 10 possessions.

Why do you keep saying I only want to blame Dak?

This whole team sucks. One of the most unlikeable set of players in the last decade +. What you arent understanding is that im not even talking about just this year. The excuses for Dak were rampant even when we had good regular seasons.

This coming from you is strange. You were on my side in the Dak debate at one point. Your befuddlement as to how certain fans dont see it when it comes to Dak is strange to me

 

[JeffInDC]

He may be. But if he is I think he has more credibility than both of us. Do you not? Considering Dak is the one who ran Dez out of town.

Isn't that what Willie and the Crew said? That Dez is just one of the receivers Dak ran out of town...but, now, to prove his point, Dak and Dez are boys? Make it make sense.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Part of the reason why the defense sucks is because the offense (notice I said offense, not Dak) is having a big problem with time of possession. The defense can't be on the field 45 minutes a game, the offense has to do their part and they are not doing their job.

I think a bit of exageration and assumption/perception on your part.
dallas avg. TOP this season is 27.5 minutes..... its not good. I rather have more, but when you can't run, then you tend to stop the clock more often.

and what's the excuse for first half lack of performance? even on first drives. at home, in the past 4 games we have not stopped the opponent on first drive at all. same with second drives and third drives.

the defenses job is to get off the field....and they can't. because they can't stop the run. ....ravens rushed for 274 yards....that will tend to get the clock in your favor.
NO scored on their first 6 possessions. including all the drives in the first half.
detroit scored on 9 of 10 possessions. the giants didn't have to punt until end of 3rd quarter.... the freaking GIANTS!!!!!

so to say the defense is bad, because offense is not controlling the clock doesn't totally make sense. you can't put the blame on offense only.

Browns TOP : 29 vs. 31
Saints TOP : 29.5 vs. 30.5
Ravens: 25 vs. 35 ---- Ravens rushed for 275 yards
Giants: 24 vs. 35
Steelers : 32 vs. 27.5
Detroit: 25- 35


so 45 minutes a bit of exageration. but also the defense is responsible to get off the field. you can't even say they are tired, because stats in first half are closer than final results above, since in the blowouts, the opponent just runs out the clock in the 4th and the TOP is mostly in their favor in the 4th.

 

[phildadon86]

Isn't that what Willie and the Crew said? That Dez is just one of the receivers Dak ran out of town...but, now, to prove his point, Dak and Dez are boys? Make it make sense.

Thats what I am trying to figure out.

 

[phildadon86]

Why do you keep saying I only want to blame Dak?

This whole team sucks. One of the most unlikeable set of players in the last decade +. What you arent understanding is that im not even talking about just this year. The excuses for Dak were rampant even when we had good regular seasons.

This coming from you is strange. You were on my side in the Dak debate at one point. Your befuddlement as to how certain fans dont see it when it comes to Dak is strange to me

Gotta say. You actually do blame other pieces of this team other than Dak so I dont agree that someone is calling you out for blaming JUST Dak.

 

[WillieBeamen]

He may be. But if he is I think he has more credibility than both of us. Do you not? Considering Dak is the one who ran Dez out of town.

Former player = automatically having more knowledge and credibility than fans is nonsense.

Dez was also on twitter the other day defending that sad performance from Diggs.

Players are human with biases and emotions too. Just because they played the game doesnt mean their opinions are any more informed than ours.

Now if we are talking game tape, id agree

 

[zrinkill]

I'm tired of messing with the Dak fans ......... Jerry fans are the main enemy now ...... fortunately they are a lot of the same people.