Question for the workout people

[Bungarian]

Gregory is trying to add bulk this offseason. I assume muscle and not fat??

Isn't it impossible to add 10 or 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time without PEDs?

I started working out a few years ago and it took me a year to add 20 pounds of muscle.

 

[jobberone]

Gregory is trying to add bulk this offseason. I assume muscle and not fat??

Isn't it impossible to add 10 or 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time without PEDs?

I started working out a few years ago and it took me a year to add 20 pounds of muscle.

It's a pretty well known fact Butt Monkeys have trouble putting on weight. Most people suspect it's their diet.

 

[Galian Beast]

Gregory is trying to add bulk this offseason. I assume muscle and not fat??

Isn't it impossible to add 10 or 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time without PEDs?

I started working out a few years ago and it took me a year to add 20 pounds of muscle.

Everyone's frame is different, but when you're working out for a living, it is a lot easier to gain the muscle quicker. And it isn't like he has to gain the weight all before week 1. It'll be an ongoing process through out the year and into next year. And it isn't like 5 lbs shy is going to make or break him as he starts his career. He is going to be a situational rusher at first anyways.

 

[Proximo]

He's not going to add pure muscle, obviously. Bulking up will bring at least some fat as well. And I'm not trying to get into a PEDs discussion, but consider this- these "kids" that are top level NFL draft picks have not only hit the genetic lottery, they now have access to very very high level professional trainers and nutritionists, in addition to the best "supplements" around. And they'll now be working out and playing football for a living. With those circumstances, some pretty impressive things can be accomplished.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Whenever you are working out and gaining weight you're adding a mixture of muscle and fat. It'd all relative to what percentage of each.

As an elite athlete in a professional system where working out and playing football is his job... He'll be fine.

 

[FiveTime]

I applaud you on your gains! It takes hard work and dedication to do that in a year. I wish I could say the same...I only gained about 10 pounds of a beer belly in the last couple years

I think it is possible without PED's. Professional athletes have way more resources than the average Joe...trainers, dietitians, team facilities, legal supplements, time, and money. They can concentrate on working out because it is basically their job to be bigger, faster, stronger.

 

[gmoney112]

Gregory is trying to add bulk this offseason. I assume muscle and not fat??

Isn't it impossible to add 10 or 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time without PEDs?

I started working out a few years ago and it took me a year to add 20 pounds of muscle.

No.

 

[jobberone]

They are burning high amounts of calories likely 4000+ per day. They are eating healthy and working out harder than most possibly can. They are going to add fat, muscle and store carbs which are exhausted quickly. More fat will be used to make carbs as the body is using them faster than they can be made from fat. If you ingest more calories than used it has to become fat or protein stored mostly as skeletal muscle.

So you get leaner and more muscled with that regimen. You can put on 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months with that regimen. I did that in basic training a very very very long time ago.

 

[pgreptom]

Everyone is different, but in general the human body can only build muscle but so fast. I'm not a scientist or a doctor - but I'm a gymrat so this is my experience.

With a perfect diet(I assume he's getting this), a perfect workout routine(I assume he's getting this) and lots of rest(I don't know if he's getting this, millionaire 21-22 year old.. probably not getting the most sleep) - it is somewhat possible to gain that amount of muscle... in a year. I'd say you can put on 8-15 pounds of muscle in a YEAR. Anything more is probably water weight from your supplements and creatine in my experience. In such a short time frame(Draft to training camp) - he could probably put on 4-8 pounds of muscle, and I'd say more likely the 4ish range. Without T-drops, PEDS, etc... the human body is just kind of slow.

 

[QT]

Yeah, if you have a professional trainer like the Cowboys' have and hire a dietitian and cook. Us peasants don't have that luxury.

But seriously, it's going to take a couple of seasons for the bulk to show up. We have seen this with other Cowboy rookies coming in.

 

[Silver N Blue]

On a side note just think if he stays clean what this guy is going to look like a year from now!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Gregory is trying to add bulk this offseason. I assume muscle and not fat??

Isn't it impossible to add 10 or 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time without PEDs?

I started working out a few years ago and it took me a year to add 20 pounds of muscle.

One thing you have to consider is that most of the time when people start working out, they initially start trading fat for muscle. So, they are losing fat (and weight) and gaining muscle (and weight) at the same time.

So you get a net loss (fat weight) and a net gain, (muscle weight) though the gross change may be minimal.

For Gregory, his BMI (Body mass index) may already be low. So, he will consume lots of protein and calories, but the calories will go towards energy for working out and the protein will go towards building muscle. In the end, he will get minimal if any net gains (or even a net loss) from calories, and a net gain from muscle mass via the high protein in take and working out. Making him gain weight faster than the normal non-athletic person starting a weight training regiment.

The big issue is once he starts getting back on the field and playing football. He may have trouble keeping that weight (muscle mass) on due to intense cardio activity. This is where body type and frame come into play. If the body can't find fat to burn, it will burn muscle to supply the energy he needs on the field.

 

[ringmaster]

He's not going to add pure muscle, obviously. Bulking up will bring at least some fat as well. And I'm not trying to get into a PEDs discussion, but consider this- these "kids" that are top level NFL draft picks have not only hit the genetic lottery, they now have access to very very high level professional trainers and nutritionists, in addition to the best "supplements" around. And they'll now be working out and playing football for a living. With those circumstances, some pretty impressive things can be accomplished.

You're correct the advances in physiology today these athletes have access to is pretty amazing.

 

[Doc50]

Everyone is different, but in general the human body can only build muscle but so fast. I'm not a scientist or a doctor - but I'm a gymrat so this is my experience.

With a perfect diet(I assume he's getting this), a perfect workout routine(I assume he's getting this) and lots of rest(I don't know if he's getting this, millionaire 21-22 year old.. probably not getting the most sleep) - it is somewhat possible to gain that amount of muscle... in a year. I'd say you can put on 8-15 pounds of muscle in a YEAR. Anything more is probably water weight from your supplements and creatine in my experience. In such a short time frame(Draft to training camp) - he could probably put on 4-8 pounds of muscle, and I'd say more likely the 4ish range. Without T-drops, PEDS, etc... the human body is just kind of slow.

Let me say again to all CZ readers: the clinical research on the use of creatine, steroids, vitamins, supplements, herbs, and excess protein is all negative over the long term. Unfortunately, FB players, other elite athletes, and amateurs as well feel the need to try anything and everything in an attempt to gain an edge. It's obvious that there are long term consequences to the battering that one gets in FB, but there's no sense adding additional risk to that.

Studies are ongoing to determine the reasons for severe neurological decline in some but not others after being subjected to the same amount of head trauma. It's quite possible we'll learn that the use of some so-called performance-enhancing substances contribute to this decline.
One can use Staubach as an example of excellent neurologic function despite multiple concussions, then seek to determine the influence of other agents which may co-operate in the debilities that we have seen.

Moreover, there are hepatic and renal consequences of substance overusage which show up later in life, by about 50.
It's likely that by the age of 60, we may wish we'd taken better care of ourselves, and that includes everything we put in our bodies.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

They are burning high amounts of calories likely 4000+ per day. They are eating healthy and working out harder than most possibly can. They are going to add fat, muscle and store carbs which are exhausted quickly. More fat will be used to make carbs as the body is using them faster than they can be made from fat. If you ingest more calories than used it has to become fat or protein stored mostly as skeletal muscle.

So you get leaner and more muscled with that regimen. You can put on 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months with that regimen. I did that in basic training a very very very long time ago.

Yeah you didn't put on 20 pounds of muscle in 3 months.

That's bioscience.

 

[Doomsday101]

If his last weight recorded was 245 then he does not need to put on 20 pounds quickly. I think if he can get his playing weight to 250 to 255 range he will fine short term.

 

[starfrombirth]

Gregory is trying to add bulk this offseason. I assume muscle and not fat??

Isn't it impossible to add 10 or 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time without PEDs?

I started working out a few years ago and it took me a year to add 20 pounds of muscle.

Diet.... super high protein and 2x a day workouts... I started body building in the military ad gained 40 lbs of muscle in 7 months but I gained 20 in 3 of those months and I didn't have a dedicated training staff or any real professional knowledge and here is the important part.... No PED's! I think it shouldn't be a problem for his to gain 20 good lbs if not more by the season.

 

[jwooten15]

Diet.... super high protein and 2x a day workouts... I started body building in the military ad gained 40 lbs of muscle in 7 months but I gained 20 in 3 of those months and I didn't have a dedicated training staff or any real professional knowledge and here is the important part.... No PED's! I think it shouldn't be a problem for his to gain 20 good lbs if not more by the season.

No, you didn't. Unless you were injecting yourself with some test prop, tren ace, and maybe some winny. It's physically impossible for the human body to naturally add that amount of muscle in such a short period of time. Don't try to make people believe that.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I wonder what kind of protein they take. Im sure its not the stuff we can get at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe

 

[conner01]

Everyone is different, but in general the human body can only build muscle but so fast. I'm not a scientist or a doctor - but I'm a gymrat so this is my experience.

With a perfect diet(I assume he's getting this), a perfect workout routine(I assume he's getting this) and lots of rest(I don't know if he's getting this, millionaire 21-22 year old.. probably not getting the most sleep) - it is somewhat possible to gain that amount of muscle... in a year. I'd say you can put on 8-15 pounds of muscle in a YEAR. Anything more is probably water weight from your supplements and creatine in my experience. In such a short time frame(Draft to training camp) - he could probably put on 4-8 pounds of muscle, and I'd say more likely the 4ish range. Without T-drops, PEDS, etc... the human body is just kind of slow.

Good points
He is not adding 20 lbs in a year. That's just not happening for a pro athlete
If he can come out of camp in the 240 to 245 range I think that's great
Then over the off season get up to the 250 to 255 range I think he will be fine
Of all the things to be concerned about with this player, his weight is very far down the list for me
He players like a bigger player and he is never gonna be a big guy
But he plays very strong and with good leverage and he will certainly get stronger