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theogt

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Taps-n-1;1300041 said:
I think you just answered your own question.
I dont' think you need to know the historical results of risk-taking behavior in order to determine whether a risk exists.
 

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I like Romo as the holder, but I prefer the starting QB not to be the one doing that duty. I don't blame the coaches for keeping Romo as the holder this year. There was some good continuity with him keeping the spot this season. Next year should be different. He had been very good at his job. I saw him make some great holds on poor snaps last season.

Parcells does not like his punter doing the job. McBriar was unsteady in 2004.

I remember they had Crayton practice it in training camp in 2004. Maybe they need to go back to that. Good hands, good athlete and can throw the ball. I have said that for some time that I would lik to see him back there.

It isn't about Bledsoe not wanting to take up the back up QBs role. I don't think he has ever done the job as holder before. It probably woud not be pretty seeing him back there. I wouldn't trust him ever.
 

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Taps-n-1;1299951 said:
Really, when was the last time a holder suffered an injury holding? I defy you to even find ONE, and I'll let you go back as far as 10-20 years.

This is the NFL. They make up rules for stuff that hasn't happened or only happend a very small percentage of times in the history of the league. That is why there is the Roy Williams horse collar tackle rule when only a handful of guys got hurt by it. That is why there is a new rule this season about not lining up over the deep snapper, but how many deep snappers have been injured in the past 10 to 20 years.

The common practice in the NFL is to use someone other than the starting QB to hold the ball on FGAs and PATs. There has to be a concern of possible injury even if there is little precedent. I think there is a rule about not hitting the holder in there as well to protect those guys.

The last holder I saw got injured was in a Cowboys game. In 2002 on Thanksgiving against the Skins. Their holder, punter got his nose re-done to look like a pig after a blocked kick.
 

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Barber or Polite should be our holder in case we wanna do a fake, keep em guessing all the time...
 

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Funny thing is ....... if that had been a designed fake .... he would have scored.

He almost scored even after bobbling the snap ..... if he would have ran instantly we would be playing the Saints next week.
 

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theogt;1300045 said:
I dont' think you need to know the historical results of risk-taking behavior in order to determine whether a risk exists.

there's a risk practicing

should Romo not practice then too?

if Bledsoe goes, we'll probably be seeing Baker holding kicks
 

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zrinkill;1300362 said:
Funny thing is ....... if that had been a designed fake .... he would have scored.

He almost scored even after bobbling the snap ..... if he would have ran instantly we would be playing the Saints next week.

We'd be playing the Bears.
 

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CrazyCowboy;1299435 said:
:mad: ZONERS: :star:

WHY?

Does our starting QB, after playing the entire game; being hit; running in the pocket; then in the 4th qtr; drives us for the winning score opportunity; THEN has to hold for the FG?

NOTE TO COACHES: ROMO just might be a little TIRED! :bang2:

Philly brought Koy Detmer off the street last week to hold for FG's!

Is our coaching staff a little--well......STUPID?

I better not see ROMO holding next year!
Because he'd been the holder all season...

Prior to that attempt: 29FG tries, 65PAT holds. not one bad hold.

That's why.
 

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summerisfunner;1300369 said:
there's a risk practicing

should Romo not practice then too?

if Bledsoe goes, we'll probably be seeing Baker holding kicks
No, that's just silly. How many other teams have their starting QB holding kicks? Now, why don't those teams think it's such a good idea just because of the possibility of a fake kick? Zero teams do it and we won't be doing it next year.

There are always risks, but the question is whether the rewards outweighs the risk.
 

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theebs;1299906 said:
not to mention in 04 we tried to give the job to mcbriar, go back and watch the season opening minnesota game and get back to me.

Rock on theebs!
I am 100% positively certain that Romo is the kind of guy that uses this as a building block - a motivational stepping stone.
We will be back full force next year regardless of Parcells' return or T.O. it doesn't matter.

We have a QB, we have the core offensive weapons, we just need to fill in the OL and DL holes.

Cowboys will ride again!
 

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the kid 05;1299890 said:
but normally is it not qb's?

Jimmy said yesterday that he always liked to have the punter hold. However, he said something about we couldn't use McBriar because he was from out of the country and not used to it, or something. I didn't really follow the McBrair thing, but he indicated that he preferred the punter to be the holder.
 

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theogt;1300519 said:
No, that's just silly. How many other teams have their starting QB holding kicks? Now, why don't those teams think it's such a good idea just because of the possibility of a fake kick? Zero teams do it and we won't be doing it next year.

There are always risks, but the question is whether the rewards outweighs the risk.

Plumber was Denvers holder I am pretty sure. I know he is not the starter now, but he was and still is the holder right or wrong. Not disagreeing just the facts.
 

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alancdc;1300644 said:
Plumber was Denvers holder I am pretty sure. I know he is not the starter now, but he was and still is the holder right or wrong. Not disagreeing just the facts.
Great. There's one. I guess if Jake Plummer does (did) it, it must be a good idea.
 

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Romo won't be the holder next season. I'm almost sure of that.

As stated above, Plummer was the only planned starter to be used as a team's holder.

Unless we just don't have another guy capable of doing the job, or unless Gramatica has some weird preference for Romo, I think the duty will be handed to someone else next season.

And I would have answered this question the same way even if he hadn't bobbled that snap.
 

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theogt;1300655 said:
Great. There's one. I guess if Jake Plummer does (did) it, it must be a good idea.

As I said I didn't say it was right or wrong, but that he did do it. Nice sarcasm though. Very appropriate.
 

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joseephuss;1300077 said:
The last holder I saw got injured was in a Cowboys game. In 2002 on Thanksgiving against the Skins. Their holder, punter got his nose re-done to look like a pig after a blocked kick.

CAN'T...

RESIST...

MUST...

POST...

PIG...

NOSE...

PHOTO...


http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v321/Schenk/barker_nose_003-c.jpg
 

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Danny White;1300703 said:
CAN'T...

RESIST...

MUST...

POST...

PIG...

NOSE...

PHOTO...


http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v321/Schenk/barker_nose_003-c.jpg

i remember laughin at that guy
 

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We all know Romo "can" hold, but he shouldn't be holding. This is an emotional game, and mentally, the QB should focus on one thing. It's not going to hurt to have someone else holding besides the starting QB.
 
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