Quincy Carter Update

[Baileyneverfailey]

"Horrible" QBs don't take their teams to the playoffs like Quincy did.

Hi, let me introduce you to my friend Rex Grossman who "led" the Bears to the playoffs.

Meet his friend Kyle Boller who "led" his team to the playoffs.

:laugh2:

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Of course the great hyprocisy is that those who bash Quincy Carter, welcome Adam Jones with open arms.

 

[Hostile]

Of course the great hyprocisy is that those who bash Quincy Carter, welcome Adam Jones with open arms.

Not all of us. I am resigned to the fact he is here, just like I was with TO. But I do not want him, and never have. I won't deny his talents and I will appreciate his contributions, but I don't welcome him with open arms. It's more like with pinched nose.

 

[Doomsday101]

Of course the great hyprocisy is that those who bash Quincy Carter, welcome Adam Jones with open arms.

Not all of us. I was glad QC was released but in no way am I thrilled about having Pacman.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Not all of us. I am resigned to the fact he is here, just like I was with TO. But I do not want him, and never have. I won't deny his talents and I will appreciate his contributions, but I don't welcome him with open arms. It's more like with pinched nose.

Not all of us. I was glad QC was released but in no way am I thrilled about having Pacman.

My apologies to you two.

I should have included the word "some".

 

[Hostile]

My apologies to you two.

I should have included the word "some".

Absolutes are never accurate.

:wink2:

 

[Doomsday101]

Absolutes are never accurate.

:wink2:

Especially around here. :laugh2:

 

[pancakeman]

Because in many ways, Quincy Carter was and continues to be special.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Of course the great hyprocisy is that those who bash Quincy Carter, welcome Adam Jones with open arms.

There have always been 'characters' on our team. It's been that way since I started supporting our team many many years ago. I just accept and support them since they wear a star.

 

[dbair1967]

Of course the great hyprocisy is that those who bash Quincy Carter, welcome Adam Jones with open arms.

except for the fact that one guy is quite talented and the other is quite lousy

David

 

[dbair1967]

Carter won games that year. Period.

Yes, he had a nice D to fall back on. But he still played the most important position on the field all year, so he deserves his share of the credit for our 10 wins. Since you didn't hesitate to blame him for the losses, it's only fair that he gets credit for the wins.

You guys are such hypocrites. Where is this qualifying and justification for winning games when it comes to Troy Aikman? Troy was blessed with a superior supporting cast when he won Super Bowls, so should we strip him of credit as well?

please dont make a fool of yourself and mention "Carter" and "Aikman" in any discussion about quality quarterbacking...Aikman's one of the most talented pure passers the league has ever seen...the other guy couldnt throw a freaking spiral for crying out loud...let alone read defenses, throw with any accuracy and avoid incredibly stupid plays left and right

Carter was an eye sore on our franchise.....Aikman was and still is a shining Star of excellence on and off the field

David

 

[dbair1967]

Troy was not the kind of QB who could win with mediocre support; and he did not have the touch of being able to lift the efforts of those around him. BUT he was about as efficient a QB as I have ever seen, and his accuracy & timing frankly was the best that ever was.
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I contend he did make everybody around him better. He made our OL look better because he consistently got rid of the ball so fast. He also made alot of big plays because he'd wait till the last instant for a receiver to open up before delivering the ball, knowing he'd take a huge hit. He was so accurate that he made it easy for all our receivers to make alot of yds after catch because they didnt have to break stride to make receptions. He rode guys in practice and in the huddle than needed to be rode.

I've contended for years he was perhaps the most underrated superstar ever. It's amazing to me how people (especially fans of the Cowboys) continually sell him short

David

 

[Nav22]

please dont make a fool of yourself and mention "Carter" and "Aikman" in any discussion about quality quarterbacking.

Sorry, but you're the fool. Because I never said Quincy was anywhere near Troy's level. In fact, I said the exact opposite.

The comparison I made was in regards to credit a QB deserves for team success when he has a great supporting cast around him.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I wish Quincy the best of luck. I thought he was an ok QB, but even back when the Hutch/Qunicy arguments were going on felt Romo had more upside. If he could have kept his act clean, he might have been able to stick in this league for some time.

 

[dbair1967]

Like I said, if on the same team. Since that can never happen it's hard to debate it. I just don't think any QB in History would start over Elway if they were on the same team. The guy is the mold.

There are some QB's who are pure system QB's, that if you transplant them to some other system they definitely wouldnt be as good...

then there are a handful that would flourish no matter what system they were in...Elway is probably one of those, but I think Aikman is too...in fact Aikman might have been better playing in a pass first system because his throwing skill was so superb....

If I were starting a team I'd take either of them, you couldnt go wrong either way

David

 

[BuckyG]

Hi, let me introduce you to my friend Rex Grossman who "led" the Bears to the playoffs.

Meet his friend Kyle Boller who "led" his team to the playoffs.

:laugh2:

See Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien--mediocre QBs with Super Bowl rings. And I'd take any of them over Quincy Carter in a heartbeat. Why are we still talking about this guy?

 

[RainMan]

The fact that Quincy Carter signing with some team no one has ever heard of can spawn a 77-post thread is a testament both to he and the Dallas Cowboys fanbase. Well done, all of us.

 

[Nav22]

Just wait till someone opines that Chad Hutchinson should've been our '03 starter...

 

[Hoofbite]

And I was beaten to it:

Hi, let me introduce you to my friend Rex Grossman who "led" the Bears to the playoffs.

Meet his friend Kyle Boller who "led" his team to the playoffs.

:laugh2:

I never said he was good, just that he was serviceable for a year. "Horrible" QBs don't take their teams to the playoffs like Quincy did.

Rex Grossman says otherwise.

In fact, just about 1 QB per year says otherwise because there is always a team that got to the playoffs just from having a dominant defense and all the right bounces.

2005 - Chris Simms

2003 - Kyle Boller/Anthony Wright

2002 - Tim Couch

2001 - Elvis Grback

 

[Nav22]

Then those QBs were serviceable for the season in which they took their teams to the playoffs.

In 2005, Chris Simms had a QB rating of 81.4. Not "horrible" in the least.

In 2003, Kyle Boller had a QB rating of 62.4 as a rookie, but the Ravens were NOT on pace to make the playoffs until Anthony Wright took over. Wright led the Ravens to wins in 5 of his 7 starts, and had a mediocre QB rating of 72.3.

In 2002, Tim Couch's QB rating was 76.8. Mediocre, but not horrible. One might say it's *gasp* "serviceable"!

In 2001, Elvis Grbac's QB rating was 71.1, which is surely mediocre but not quite "horrible".



I guess it depends on your definition of "horrible". To me, Quincy was mediocre but "horrible" is a bit of a stretch.