Quinn agrees to 5-year deal

[Chocolate Lab]

I've never understood why Cowboys' fans are hoping for Quinn to play. We know what Cleveland has in Frye and Anderson, an average to below average starting QB. We don't know what Quinn can do.

It's like Let's Make a Deal. The Browns are sitting with a lemon. Door number one probably has a whole bag of lemons but there is a slim chance that there's a shiny new car back there.

Weis is credited with developing Brady into the QB he is today. Why would it be such a stretch to think he's done the same thing with Quinn?

That's why I'd rather he didn't play now. I'd rather Frye or the other guy play a few games, look terrible, and then they cave to fan pressure and put Quinn in. But the holdout should set him back pretty well.

On Quinn overall and the Weis influence, I tend to think he'll be more like a Tedford product: So well coached in college that there's not room for improvement at the pro level. Truth is, the coaching he'll get now most likely won't be as good as what he had before.

 

[Seven]

Bias? The knocks of big game failures are interesting against Quinn.

JaMarcus Russell played on a much better overall team than did Quinn. Yet, vs. the 3 best teams LSU faced in 06' (Florida, Auburn, Tennesee), they went 1-2 and Russell threw 4 TD's vs. 6 Int's.

The main differences I see are arm strength and the bowl win. And if one considers that Air Force's 5-10/195 QB completed 82% of his passes and had 2 TD's vs. 0 Int's against the very same ND secondary ... the bowl win suddenly becomes less impressive.

Again, 538 yards passing...5 TD's vs. 1 Int...and 95 yards rushing with 1 TD over the last 2 years vs. USC ain't too shabby. Quinn didn't lose those games. When he left the field in that game for the last time in 05', ND had the lead and the defense gave up a 4th and long play that went for 60 yards and ended up with the Bush push. In 06' ... USC and ND both had 404 yards of total offense ... with Quinn contributing to 348 of those yards and 3 scores. However, the defense and special teams units yeilded 44 points.

He threw for 290 yards and completed 65% of his passes vs. an Ohio St. team that had 5 players drafted on the first day (3 in the 1st round).

He completed 60% of his passes and threw for 300+ yards with 2 TD's vs. 0 Int's against a UCLA defense that shut down USC and featured one of the best DE tandems in the country.

And ... prior to him re-injuring his knee late in the 1st half vs. LSU, Quinn passed for 114 yards and 2 TD's ... bringing them back from down 14-0. It was said that he shouldn't have been on the field for the 2nd half ... and ND's b/u QB was shown warming up. But being his last collegiate game, he wanted to play.

He threw 5 TD's vs. 3 Int's against Michigan over the last 2 years ... winning in the Big House as a Jr. Although, his biggest struggles did come vs. the Wolverines.

Mrs. Quinn?

Great post! It isn't Brady Quinn so much as they hate ND.

 

[jackrussell]

I'll go with he'll eventually be a pretty good quarterback in the NFL.











DISCLAIMER

Notre Dame still sucks.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Brady Quinn rarely wilted. The primary reason for most of his poor play (sans the occasional errant pass) was his OL. That offensive line was absolutely atrocious last year.

Your absolutely right....

The ND hate in here is thick. When your best receiver is a 4.6 white guy and your back is no more than an NFL third down back and your Oline is pourus, you don't really stand a chance. Sure Brady wasnt great in bowl games or games against big schools but its hard for a team to stay competitive against these schools that are so outmatched talent wise. ND's D couldn't sniff Santonio, Ginn , Davis or Bowe. They were too slow. Relied too much on the scheme to hide their deficiences.

Charlie will change all that in the next couple of years as he empahsizes speed in his recruiting classes.

Its fine though , because Brady will be shined on all year long by.....

 

[Vintage]

He's going to be shined upon some random guy protrayed in a window glass?

 

[ccb04]

Mrs. Quinn?

Great post! It isn't Brady Quinn so much as they hate ND.

No, LMAO ... but I am a ND fan. I can somewhat understand the hate ... as they were definitely overrated as a team and didn't deserve a BSC bowl either of the last 2 years they've recieved them. Unfortunately, Quinn was often the one criticized whether he played good or not ... when in fact it was the team that was outclassed rather than him.

That said ... without Quinn, ND wouldn't have even been able to be remotely competitive. As I mentioned about USC over the last 2 years, he nearly led them to a HUGE upset over the Leinart/Bush led Trojans ... and accounted for all 3 of their scores in last years game. Unfortunately, he couldn't keep pace with USC as a team ... as their defense, offense, and special teams scored 44 points.

People criticized him for the Ohio St. bowl game. Well hell ... the Buckeyes sacked him 6 times and he was pressured unmercifully ... similar to Troy Smith vs. Florida. But he still threw for 290 yards while completing 65% of his passes with no turnovers. And if not for an early drop by Samardzija on a bomb ... Quinn could have had roughly 330 yards passing with 1 TD and no Int's. But I mean C'mon ... he wasn't going to be able to keep up with what Smith, Ginn, Holmes, ect... were doing on offense.

What he primarily needs to work on is consistently setting his feet on his drops ... as his accuracy suffers when he doesn't. But he can make all the throws ... and has certainly proved his toughness by taking a beating on more than one occassion.

 

[peplaw06]

I could not be more apathetic about Quinn, Notre Dame and/or Cleveland in general... after this season. But I want Quinn to suck if he plays, and I want Cleveland to go 0-16. Every win they get will annoy me.

So sue me.

But the only reason I wish the pressure were huge enough to make him play now, is it's obvious that he's missed a lot of work. If he gets in, I see them having slim to no chance of winning the first 4-6 games or so. That would hurt his psyche for the rest of the season, and Cleveland would pretty much be stuck with playing him b/c why not? He still needs to develop.

If Quinn gets in later in the season, I guess I could live with that... But to some extent it would mean Crennell thinks he's ready, and it could give em a boost later on in the season. not that I think he could pull a Vince Young and win a string of games, but you get my point.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

I'd love to see a collapse as much as the next guy, but I just have this really bad feeling that's not what's going to happen. Look for Quinn to win Rookie Of the Year and take the Browns to at least 7-9. He's going from 4 years in a pro-style offense to a pro-style offense. Speed of the game is going to be his only complication, and I think any drastic alteration from that is just nothing but wishful thinking on Cowboy fans' part. We'll wish we had taken him by time this is all said n' done. Can anyone say Joe Montana?

It's going to cost us everything in the first 2 rounds next year to get McFadden, and it's going to be all Quinns fault. That being said, I still hope we pull the trigger when it's time. Afterall that's why we pulled the trigger last draft. Sure we could walk out of that draft with 2 quality first round picks, but that's not what that trade was all about.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think he will as well -- but I think he's the kind of player that it will take a while for. He's a classic "needs to refine his mechanics and speed up his decision making type" - to me, that's the kind of guy who needs a ton of reps to play through it. Ideally, you let a guy like him sit for a year but I don't think the Browns are going to have that luxury - especially with Crenell's situation. Whenever he comes out of the tunnel fans shout "dead man walking."

I don't think Quinn will beat out Frye, so IMO he will be sitting for a year, or much of his rookie year

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I'm an Auburn fan, and I never thought Jason Campbell was that good. I was completely shockey when he was drafted in the first round.

You mean you were a jerk?:laugh2:

 

[jimmy40]

If BQ was from any other school most of you would not be jumping all over him. Which is a pretty sad comment on you. I think he will be a good one- maybe even better then that. BUT what I really hope for is for him to be a top QB just to watch so many of you gritting your teeth and hating every minute of it. That would be so much fun.

This isn't about where he went to school it's about Cowboys fans hoping he sucks so we don't have to admit we made a mistake by not drafting him, although Notre Dame does make me want to puke.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

This isn't about where he went to school it's about Cowboys fans hoping he sucks so we don't have to admit we made a mistake by not drafting him, although Notre Dame does make me want to puke.

:ralph: :splat:

 

[HopeCowboyFan]

Lets be real clear here, the last thing we want is an emerging Charlie Frye starting this season. He is right there to break out.

Let's hope they make the mistake of trotting out a pedigree, overrated and unprepared QB like Quinn. What scares me is Crennel is coaching for his job, believe I heard today he announced Frye as his starter today.

Lets hope upstairs overrules common sense and puts Quinn out there to melt down.

 

[Seven]

DISCLAIMER

Notre Dame still sucks.

Oh yeah? .....................and you're ugly........saddle bags!

 

[Seven]

No, LMAO ... but I am a ND fan. I can somewhat understand the hate ... as they were definitely overrated as a team and didn't deserve a BSC bowl either of the last 2 years they've recieved them. Unfortunately, Quinn was often the one criticized whether he played good or not ... when in fact it was the team that was outclassed rather than him.

That said ... without Quinn, ND wouldn't have even been able to be remotely competitive. As I mentioned about USC over the last 2 years, he nearly led them to a HUGE upset over the Leinart/Bush led Trojans ... and accounted for all 3 of their scores in last years game. Unfortunately, he couldn't keep pace with USC as a team ... as their defense, offense, and special teams scored 44 points.

People criticized him for the Ohio St. bowl game. Well hell ... the Buckeyes sacked him 6 times and he was pressured unmercifully ... similar to Troy Smith vs. Florida. But he still threw for 290 yards while completing 65% of his passes with no turnovers. And if not for an early drop by Samardzija on a bomb ... Quinn could have had roughly 330 yards passing with 1 TD and no Int's. But I mean C'mon ... he wasn't going to be able to keep up with what Smith, Ginn, Holmes, ect... were doing on offense.

What he primarily needs to work on is consistently setting his feet on his drops ... as his accuracy suffers when he doesn't. But he can make all the throws ... and has certainly proved his toughness by taking a beating on more than one occassion.

Me too. I was actually born.............ahem, "in the area" of the Golden Dome. I was born a Golden Domer. Had no choice in the matter.

I still think Charlie and the gang did a great job for what they have on a talent basis. I saw some pretty good football. You're right concerning the BCS gig. I'm still not sure how they actually pull that off every year.....the BCS thing.

 

[thewivil]

This isn't about where he went to school it's about Cowboys fans hoping he sucks so we don't have to admit we made a mistake by not drafting him, although Notre Dame does make me want to puke.

I think most Cowboys fans are hoping he sucks so he'll bring the team down with him and better our draft pick for next year. At least that's where my hope lies.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

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