"Put the anointing oil away"

[AbeBeta]

You're barking up the wrong tree. I've personally started two threads concerning Parcells. One clearly pertained to him and his lack of ability to decided what he's going to do and this one pertaining to him and his parcellsisms.

Yes, but you also have personally made this board suck.

So there's that too.

 

[PBJTime]

kind of hard when 95% of all the new threads are these threads. We read and comment on the because they are the new threads. Once this dies off I hope some of the good posters start coming back and making good threads to read

I understand all that, but in all honesty, what is there to talk about anyways? If I read a thread that's redundant (like you said, 95% of them are lately) I usually just leave it and go about my merry way.

 

[Bleu Star]

10 THINGS THAT EXCITE ME ABOUT 2007

1. New defensive coordinator
2. Continued development of Romo
3. TO's hand is back to 100%
4. Marco Rivera is replaced
5. Bobby Carpenter's continued development
6. Roy Williams will come back with a vengance
7. Sense of "unfinished business" from 2006
8. Free agent aquisitions
9. Parity means EVERYONE is competetive
10. Romo will no longer hold on kicks

Now print that off and tape it to your forehead and finish the rest of the Kool Aid in your half-empty glass. You can consider yourself "clued".

1. New defensive coordinator

Same head coach puling the strings.

2. Continued development of Romo

I'm also excited about this. However, The guy solely responsible for Romo's development (IMO) just left for a college job.

3. TO's hand is back to 100%

Same offensive philosphy. This means TO will still not be allowed to benefit from any dynamic changes made to accomodate his WCO explosiveness.

4. Marco Rivera is replaced

I haven't seen the replacement yet. So I will reserve judgement until said replacement is in place. It's nice to hope though.

5. Bobby Carpenter's continued development

This I am also most excited about. However, Carpenter's true abilities will not be on display until the choke hold from Parcells has been lifted. That won't happen until he decides to join the AARP full tilt.

6. Roy Williams will come back with a vengance

ZZZ.. I'll believe it when I see it. I'm asking for concrete evidence here. We said the same thing about Roy last offseason.

7. Sense of "unfinished business" from 2006

34-32... zero playoff wins. It seems the business is pretty much finished.

8. Free agent aquisitions

False hope.

9. Parity means EVERYONE is competetive

It's funny that you say this. Even in today's day and age the Saints and Jets of the world can turn things around. Yet here we are still dwelling in mediocrity. I'm not impressed.

10. Romo will no longer hold on kicks

Parcells should have made a chess move back early in the season when he said "at some point in time this season I am going to work Romo in at the QB position". Do you remember that having been said? Yet there we were with our starting QB hung out to dry. Bill has obviously lost his chess edge.

Now you be sure to also print the bolded portions off and tape them to your forehead and finish the rest of the Kool Aid in your rose colored glass. You can consider yourself "clued".

 

[Bleu Star]

Yes, but you also have personally made this board suck.

So there's that too.

Thanks. I never realized the extent of my power.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Why are multiple threads started with the same whiny rubbish over and over again?

I recommend a Parcells Zone so everyone can get together, mingle and grind their teeth together in unison in one big thread.

 

[Alexander]

Bill must go.

 

[Bleu Star]

I know you all are tired of hearing it. I remember having the exact same feeling when the majority of you were hating on TO. Hmmm... How does it feel? I find it amusing how the GET RID OF TO threads aren't all over the place anymore. I'm sure many of you contributed heavily to those threads. LOL

The hypocrisy is stunning.

 

[windward]

Same head coach puling the strings.

I'm also excited about this. However, The guy solely responsible for Romo's development (IMO) just left fro a college job.

Same offensive philosphy. This means TO will still not be allowed to benefit from any dynamic changes made to accomodate his WCO explosiveness.

I haven't seen the replacement yet. So I will reserve judgement until said replacement is in place. It's nice to hope though.

This I am also most excited about. However, Carpenter's true abilities will not be on display until the choke hole of Parcells has been lifted. That won't happen until he decides to join the AARP full tilt.

ZZZ.. I'll believe it when I see it. I'm asking for concrete evidence here. Wesaid the same thing about Roy last offseason.

34-32... zero playoff wins. It seems the business is pretty much finished.

False hope.

It's funny that you say this. Even in today's day and age the Saints and Jets of the world can turn things around. Yet here we are still dwelling in mediocrity. I'm not impressed.

Parcells should have made a chess move back early in the season when he said "at some point in time this season I am going to work Romo in at the QB position". Do you remember that having been said? Yet there we were with our starting QB hung out to dry. Bill's obviously lost his chess edge. :rollseyes:

Now you be sure to also print the bolded portions off and tape them to your forehead and finish the rest of the Kool Aid in your rose colored glass. You can consider yourself "clued".

Honestly, though, if you're that we're just "destined" to finish 9-7, one and done next year(i.e nothing will change next year), then why bother following the team. Bashing those with "rose colored glasses" while going to the other extreme of "doom and gloom" is no better. Granted, the "rose colored glasses" often gloss over deficiencies, leading to heightened expectations that may be a bit unlikely.

The "doom and gloomers" often try to pass off their negativism as "realism" when in fact only the negative is considered at the expense of other equally pertinent evidence that may show that things may not necessarily be as bad as they portray.

 

[firehawk350]

10 THINGS THAT EXCITE ME ABOUT 2007

1. New defensive coordinator
2. Continued development of Romo
3. TO's hand is back to 100%
4. Marco Rivera is replaced
5. Bobby Carpenter's continued development
6. Roy Williams will come back with a vengance
7. Sense of "unfinished business" from 2006
8. Free agent aquisitions
9. Parity means EVERYONE is competetive
10. Romo will no longer hold on kicks

Now print that off and tape it to your forehead and finish the rest of the Kool Aid in your half-empty glass. You can consider yourself "clued".

1) Not an automatic fix. There will be growing pains the first half of the season...
2) No guarantee that Romo bounces back. You would think that as he got more starts, he'd get better... But that didn't happen either
3) TO + TG = 68 years between them next year...
4) Marco Rivera will be replaced by who??? How about the rest of the only mediocre line?
5) Bobby Carpenter will be good, I give you that.
6) Roy Williams isn't going to get any better. He is a run stopper with no coverage abilities. What can possibly happen better, he hit harder? I don't see that happening either...
7) How about the unfinished business from 2003 / 2005... On top of that, momentum or vengence usually doesn't transfer to the new year. Ask the Steelers
8) Wow, that's blindly optimistic... I remember some FA acquisitions last year that you thought would put you over the top. TO and Vandy come to mind. So who do you think the Boys will target that will make them better?
9) Parity also means that you can be competitive one year, and not the next. The pendulum swings both ways. Just ask the Bucs or the Skins.
10) So you think one play was the difference between you and the Super Bowl? Or even a playoff victory?

 

[Bleu Star]

Honestly, though, if you're that we're just "destined" to finish 9-7, one and done next year(i.e nothing will change next year), then why bother following the team. Bashing those with "rose colored glasses" while going to the other extreme of "doom and gloom" is no better. Granted, the "rose colored glasses" often gloss over deficiencies, leading to heightened expectations that may be a bit unlikely.

The "doom and gloomers" often try to pass off their negativism as "realism" when in fact only the negative is considered at the expense of other equally pertinent evidence that may show that things may not necessarily be as bad as they portray.

I'll continue to follow the team due to one simple fact. I followed them before Parcells arrived and I will follow the team when he's long gone. You can continue to enjoy his mediocrity. I don't have to. Yet still, I will be right there cheering my boys on next year in spite of the lackluster appointment at the HC position.

 

[Bleu Star]

1) Not an automatic fix. There will be growing pains the first half of the season...
2) No guarantee that Romo bounces back. You would think that as he got more starts, he'd get better... But that didn't happen either
3) TO + TG = 68 years between them next year...
4) Marco Rivera will be replaced by who??? How about the rest of the only mediocre line?
5) Bobby Carpenter will be good, I give you that.
6) Roy Williams isn't going to get any better. He is a run stopper with no coverage abilities. What can possibly happen better, he hit harder? I don't see that happening either...
7) How about the unfinished business from 2003 / 2005... On top of that, momentum or vengence usually doesn't transfer to the new year. Ask the Steelers
8) Wow, that's blindly optimistic... I remember some FA acquisitions last year that you thought would put you over the top. TO and Vandy come to mind. So who do you think the Boys will target that will make them better?
9) Parity also means that you can be competitive one year, and not the next. The pendulum swings both ways. Just ask the Bucs or the Skins.
10) So you think one play was the difference between you and the Super Bowl? Or even a playoff victory?

Amen to everything you said.

It really pains me when I find the words of someone that doesn't appear to be a Cowboys fan more succinct than those by a fellow fan. I guess it truly does sometimes take an indifferent or 3rd party opinion to level the playing field.

 

[windward]

1) Not an automatic fix. There will be growing pains the first half of the season...
2) No guarantee that Romo bounces back. You would think that as he got more starts, he'd get better... But that didn't happen either
3) TO + TG = 68 years between them next year...
4) Marco Rivera will be replaced by who??? How about the rest of the only mediocre line?
5) Bobby Carpenter will be good, I give you that.
6) Roy Williams isn't going to get any better. He is a run stopper with no coverage abilities. What can possibly happen better, he hit harder? I don't see that happening either...
7) How about the unfinished business from 2003 / 2005... On top of that, momentum or vengence usually doesn't transfer to the new year. Ask the Steelers
8) Wow, that's blindly optimistic... I remember some FA acquisitions last year that you thought would put you over the top. TO and Vandy come to mind. So who do you think the Boys will target that will make them better?
9) Parity also means that you can be competitive one year, and not the next. The pendulum swings both ways. Just ask the Bucs or the Skins.
10) So you think one play was the difference between you and the Super Bowl? Or even a playoff victory?

Good lord, y'all have totally misunderstood the premise of his original post. He said there were reasons to be optimistic for the next season, not that these things would definitely happen. It is entirely plausible that these or most of these things can occur to improve the Boys lot next year.

They may come to pass. They may not. The mere fact that things may not necessarily work out does not mean that there is no reason to be excited or optimistic going into next season

 

[windward]

Amen to everything you said.

It really pains me when I find the words of someone that doesn't appear to be a Cowboys fan more succinct than those by a fellow fan. I guess it truly does sometimes take an indifferent or 3rd party opinion to level the playing field.

Once again, this is not a guarantee that those things will occure. They may potentially occur. It's mere potential gives reason for the mainstream/moderate fan to be excited for the upcoming season. By refuting all of the points as something that will not or is unlikely to occur is another case of negativism masquerading as realism.

 

[bratchek]

The verdict is in after 4 years. Parcells is not going to get us any further than .500 and a quick skirt of the playoffs each year. Mr. Cowher. Enjoy that year off. We'll see you in 08.

Zero playoff wins in 4 years. Yes, you truly are what you are.

I've taken some college math........so let me try something. If we take 7 and divide it by 9 thats .563. And last I checked .563>.500. and the same last year. He's changed the team in 4 years and is making progress but you want instant success. That doesn't happen often in this league.

 

[windward]

I've taken some college math........so let me try something. If we take 7 and divide it by 9 thats .563. And last I checked .563>.500. and the same last year. He's changed the team in 4 years and is making progress but you want instant success. That doesn't happen often in this league.

This of course, cues the response "Payton, etc... turned their team around in one year!" Parcells should be fired! This, I think is a statement taken out of context and given more creedence than is perhaps prudent.
It actually brings to mind a quote by Carl Von Clausewitz, a general in the Prussian Army and preeminent military historian/strategist of Europe in the nineteenth century. This quote regarded the formulation of a historical doctrine via historical evidence

"Instead of presenting a fully detailed case, critics are content merely to touch on three or four, which give the semblance of strong proof. But there are occasions when nothing will be proved by a dozen examples-if, for instance, they frequently recur and one could easily cite a dozen cases that had opposite results. If anyone lists a dozen defeats in which the losing side attacked with divided columns, I can list a dozen victories in which that tactic was employed. Obviously this is no way to reach a conclusion."

 

[firehawk350]

Good lord, y'all have totally misunderstood the premise of his original post. He said there were reasons to be optimistic for the next season, not that these things would definitely happen. It is entirely plausible that these or most of these things can occur to improve the Boys lot next year.

They may come to pass. They may not. The mere fact that things may not necessarily work out does not mean that there is no reason to be excited or optimistic going into next season

yeah, but the point of my post was to say that he has no reason to bash people who aren't optimistic. There's two sides to that coin. Do I think you're going to suck in 07? Nope, no way. But I also don't think that Parcells is going to take you much further. You have utterly collapsed in December and that's indicative of coaching.

 

[windward]

yeah, but the point of my post was to say that he has no reason to bash people who aren't optimistic. There's two sides to that coin. Do I think you're going to suck in 07? Nope, no way. But I also don't think that Parcells is going to take you much further. You have utterly collapsed in December and that's indicative of coaching.

The thing about history, though, is that past results are not necessarily an indicator if what will happen in the future. Sure, Dallas could go 9-7 again and win at most, a wild card game, but it may not. I certsinly don't think that as a Cowboys fan, going into a season with the expectation of failure has any type of benefit whatsoever

 

[Bleu Star]

yeah, but the point of my post was to say that he has no reason to bash people who aren't optimistic. There's two sides to that coin. Do I think you're going to suck in 07? Nope, no way. But I also don't think that Parcells is going to take you much further. You have utterly collapsed in December and that's indicative of coaching.

You're making too much sense and I feel very strange about this given the belief that you aren't a Cowboys fan. Stop it! :

 

[Bleu Star]

The thing about history, though, is that past results are not necessarily an indicator if what will happen in the future. Sure, Dallas could go 9-7 again and win at most, a wild card game, but it may not. I certsinly don't think that as a Cowboys fan, going into a season with the expectation of failure has any type of benefit whatsoever

How many years will be enough to satisfy the eternal optimists?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

yeah, but the point of my post was to say that he has no reason to bash people who aren't optimistic. There's two sides to that coin. Do I think you're going to suck in 07? Nope, no way. But I also don't think that Parcells is going to take you much further. You have utterly collapsed in December and that's indicative of coaching.

that isn't bashing someone who isn't optimistic, we were asked why should we be optimistic for the coming season, and it was given, simple as that

so collapsing in December can't be anything else besides coaching? gotcha