"We didn't blitz that much"--Bill Parcells

[Screw The Hall]

That's true. He may do that and yes that under your and my definition would be a "blitz". But say he does't? Say instead of stepping one inch forward he retreats a few step to cover a shallow zone... then what do we call it?

I think he'd call that a form of a zone blitz.

 

[Screw The Hall]

A zone blitz, which technically isn't a blitz.

Posted before mine got through ....

 

[superpunk]

That's true. He may do that and yes that under your and my definition would be a "blitz". But say he does't? Say instead of stepping one inch forward he retreats a few step to cover a shallow zone... then what do we call it?

A blitz.

Or if he coves a receiver or RB - it's a blitz. If he stands there, and watches the QB, it's a blitz. It's a blitz no matter how you slice it.

I'm super cereal.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

A zone blitz, which technically isn't a blitz.

And I do believe it is a blitz due to the inclusion of the ILB. But I guess we're getting closer.

 

[superpunk]

It was clever of them to put the word blitz into zone blitz to fool us all into thinking it was.....well.....a blitz.

They're sneaky. And by they, I mean, of course, albino pygmies.

 

[theogt]

And I do believe it is a blitz due to the inclusion of the ILB. But I guess we're getting closer.

Yeah, here we'll just agree to disagree, which is perfectly fine.

 

[theogt]

It was clever of them to put the word blitz into zone blitz to fool us all into thinking it was.....well.....a blitz.

They're sneaky. And by they, I mean, of course, albino pygmies.

Kinda like how you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway.

 

[NorthTexan95]

And I do believe it is a blitz due to the inclusion of the ILB. But I guess we're getting closer.

I agree. A zone blitz is a blitz.

 

[NorthTexan95]

I have taken every single post and used logic to either refute it or show how it fits my definition. .

Um ... no you haven't. Myself and Michael have both posted different definitions which you ignore and keep holding steadfast to your own definition.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah, here we'll just agree to disagree, which is perfectly fine.

The only thing that I sorta think is inconsistent in your thinking is that if that ILB that was rush a passer was instead Roy Williams you would call it a blitz also.

 

[theogt]

Um ... no you haven't. Myself and Michael have both posted different definitions which you ignore and keep holding steadfast to your own definition.

Michael offered a definition and it was proven to have inconsistencies. I didn't notice that you offered any substantive definition. I just saw you repeatedly calling my arguments worthless, etc, because, you know, I'm not a coach and all.

 

[theogt]

The only thing that I sorta think is inconsistent in your thinking is that if that ILB that was rush a passer was instead Roy Williams you would call it a blitz also.

Well, a FS is different than an ILB, so that's not exactly inconsistent.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well, a FS is different than an ILB, so that's not exactly inconsistent.

I think they are closer than what you would let on.

 

[theogt]

I think they are closer than what you would let on.

Well, all it takes is a biscuit, right?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well, all it takes is a biscuit, right?

That's what I've been told.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Michael offered a definition and it was proven to have inconsistencies. I didn't notice that you offered any substantive definition. I just saw you repeatedly calling my arguments worthless, etc, because, you know, I'm not a coach and all.

You haven't been paying attention. Back on page 16 I posted

Actually this all seems to be getting too complicated. When I coached in high school a blitz was anytime someone other than a down lineman rushed the passer in our 4-3 defense. I guess the OLB in a 3-4 could be different since one of them is usually coming on each down but that would be a minor point determined by the terminology of the specific team.

And then when Michael posted this:

In my view if you have a 4-3 defense, if anyone other than the 4 down-lineman rush the passer it's a "blitz".

In a 3-4 defense, if anyone other than the 3 down-lineman AND one of the OLB rush the passer it's a blitz.

I replied that I'd go with this.

So I did offer a definition ... I didn't call your arguments worthless but only your definition. I said as a fan you can define blitz anyway you want but and definition of a blitz means little more than putting a label on a bottle. It serves no purpose.

 

[theogt]

Michael's definition contradicts yours. Michael's definition is consistent with my definition.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Michael's definition contradicts yours. Michael's definition is consistent with my definition.

No, because if a linebacker rushes the quarterback and a lineman drops off into coverage then it's only four rushers and isn't a blitz under your definition but is under Michael's and mine.

 

[theogt]

No, because if a linebacker rushes the quarterback and a lineman drops off into coverage then it's only four rushers and isn't a blitz under your definition but is under Michael's and mine.

Yes, it's not a blitz. It's a zone blitz, which is technically not a blitz.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Michael's definition contradicts yours. Michael's definition is consistent with my definition.

Our definition do not contradict. They are the same except his would always call the OLB rushing not a blitz while I would leave it to the individual defense to determine the whether that would be considered a blitz or not. My response to his definition "that I'd go with that" removed that minor difference.