"We were ‘very pleased" with Felix Jones’

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mmillman;5085610 said:
That is the standard for your first round pick now? Valuable, how? He was a role player that didn't contribute much even when healthy.

Charles and Rice whom you conveniently didn't mention were outstanding last season. Forte has been a pro bowler as has Johnson. Mendenhall, was much more productive.

2008 and 2009 are why this team has no depth and one reason it has cap issues.

..aaaaand that's all we need to know about your perspective.
 

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QT;5084582 said:
Mendenhall did well coming back last year, then got hurt again.

BTW, Mike Jenkins was the other #1 pick. Not on the team as well.

Pretty bad when you have two 1sts and don't end up with a player you want to resign to another contract.
 

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Risen Star;5085684 said:
Pretty bad when you have two 1sts and don't end up with a player you want to resign to another contract.

Not only that, but the rest of the league didn't think much of them either.

Jenkins waited quite a while to get a mediocre one-year deal and Felix Jones had it even worse!

I think that's an even bigger indictment.
 

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Risen Star;5085687 said:
I was for the Felix Jones pick and I was wrong.

I'll admit when I'm wrong (as I often am), but i was right on this occasion. About both Rice and Felix Jones.
 

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stasheroo;5085691 said:
Not only that, but the rest of the league didn't think much of them either.

Jenkins waited quite a while to get a mediocre one-year deal and Felix Jones had it even worse!

I think that's an even bigger indictment.

In Felix's case, I'd agree. Jenks would have had a better deal had he not had the significant shoulder injury question.
 

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rocyaice;5085303 said:
I guess this is going to be the new "the 2009 draft sucked" topic that keeps getting beaten to death on this site. Its funny how people remember Felix here. He was a valuable asset. He was a great compliment to Marion Barber. His shelf life if he doesn't get back on track was short. You can't predict that. Jerry and co. don't have to save face with that pick. It was a good pick at the time and its still a good pick. We got 4 or 5 good years out of Felix. The average for a running back. Chris Johnson and Matt Forte aren't what they were a few seasons ago either.


Are you an Arkansas alum or something? Drafting McFaddens backup was pure comedy. This flat footed oaf couldnt fool anyone.
 

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Jenkins was a good player here who played most of 2011 with a busted shoulder held together by torn ligaments before totally messing it up at the end of a season to stop a touchdown pass.

The reason he went so cheap is durability concerns. He looked quite good to me on the field and it is a shame we are paying Oscar so much more than Jenkins is getting. The terrible cap management of our GM shows itself again.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5085723 said:
The problem was never Felix..



He was the one injured all the time, that's probably never going to change, meanwhile Mendenhall is a better FA signing.


Defending Jerruh for Juilius Jones and Felix Jones as well as Jenkins is rather futile.

Don't you think?

:shoot6:
 

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SilverStarCowboy;5085744 said:
He was the one injured all the time, that's probably never going to change, meanwhile Mendenhall is a better FA signing.


Defending Jerruh for Juilius Jones and Felix Jones as well as Jenkins is rather futile.

Don't you think?

:shoot6:

He's missed 6 games in the past 4 years.. not injured nearly as much as most think.

Mendenhall has missed more games in the past 4 years than Felix, so not sure what you see in him, except that he wasn't on this team the past few years while we've been losing, so naturally most say he'd have been better for us.
 

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stasheroo;5085697 said:
I'll admit when I'm wrong (as I often am), but i was right on this occasion. About both Rice and Felix Jones.

Rice was my favorite RB in that draft, I didn't even want to spend a 1st rounder on a RB. Over the years, I've come to dislike spending 1st rounders on RB's or WR's.

Obviously Dez is monstrous, but I think you can find both positions later in the draft. I've grown more in favor of spending those high picks on OL, DL (which included 3-4 OLBS), Secondary (In which I'd still value the best safety over the best CB) and the rare MLB/ILB.

RoyTheHammer;5085765 said:
He's missed 6 games in the past 4 years.. not injured nearly as much as most think.

Mendenhall has missed more games in the past 4 years than Felix, so not sure what you see in him, except that he wasn't on this team the past few years while we've been losing, so naturally most say he'd have been better for us.

Felix was often "dinged up" or playing hurt. Missed games aren't everything. When people said DeMarco was injury prone, people pointed to how few games he'd missed, but (like Felix) the issue wasn't necessarily games missed but games played at full (or nearly full) strength. DeMarco has ended up actually missing games in the pros due to rather significant injuries and I'm hoping that changes.
 

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TheCount;5085773 said:
Felix was often "dinged up" or playing hurt. Missed games aren't everything. When people said DeMarco was injury prone, people pointed to how few games he'd missed, but (like Felix) the issue wasn't necessarily games missed but games played at full (or nearly full) strength. DeMarco has ended up actually missing games in the pros due to rather significant injuries and I'm hoping that changes.

I understand that, but alot of people play injured throughout the course of any season. He didn't take games off when he didn't have to though. He toughed it out and was in there.

My problem with Felix was two things.. and neither was really his fault.

First, if we didn't draft him with the intention of having him carry the load for us at some point, then it was silly to draft him in the first round to begin with. You simply don't draft guys who you expect to be part time players in the first round.

Second, once we did draft him, even though he proved to be more productive when he got more touches, we never really gave him a chance to be the guy and just feed it to him until he broke, which is what you should be doing with players in this league. Its pretty clear he had alot of talent, so to not play him as the main guy because you want to try to add a few years onto his career is just bad business. In this league, you run players until they break or they can't do it anymore, and then you replace them. You don't try to use them a little bit at a time and save them for down the road.

So honestly, i have no doubt Felix could have given us at the very least what Mendenhall gave the Steelers, if he had been given that amount of touches. Keep in mind Mendenhall had a much better OL for much of the time, too. That's half the reason you can't do these comparisons and base them in any kind of reality. Everyone is so sure if we had drafted Rice or CJ or whoever it would have been much better, and maybe it would have been.. but there's no certainty that maybe they would have been used the exact same way Felix was and not fed the rock enough, or that behind our crappy OL's, they wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

Either way, i agree with you, never draft a RB in the first round.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5085765 said:
He's missed 6 games in the past 4 years.. not injured nearly as much as most think.

Mendenhall has missed more games in the past 4 years than Felix, so not sure what you see in him, except that he wasn't on this team the past few years while we've been losing, so naturally most say he'd have been better for us.

Felix was a backup running back so that is a lot of missed games.
 

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Hardline;5084964 said:
I never seen the play where Felix tripped over his own feet.
Is there a video of it anywhere?

FelixStumbles.gif
 

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Felix Jones is the late 2000s Cowboys teams in a nutshell, so much potential that just ended up tripping over their own feet.
 

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Blue Eyed Devil;5085845 said:
Felix Jones is the late 2000s Cowboys teams in a nutshell, so much potential that just ended up tripping over their own feet.

:laugh2:

..this is just getting silly now. Good grief.
 
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