Randy moss and cap space

[shooterware94]

Say we wanted to go after randy moss, does anybody know how we are suppost to clear like 10-15 mil because we still need to sign our draft picks and i think we only have around 3 mil in cap space. Say we reconstruck romos deal does that really save us that much in cap space so we can go get moss i dont think so. If we wanted to get moss we would have to cut players or trade them. Here is a list of players i would like to see cut or traded so we can save room for moss.

Greg Ellis- Love the guy hes been a great player ever since we drafted him but its spencers time to shine and just like the giants did you have to plug guys and rookies in and hope for the best and thats what we gotta do.

Terry Glenn- He needs to go simple as that

Anthony henry- Hes almost 32 and injury prone id rather trade or cut him save some cap space and draft 2 cb's in the first 3 rounds.

Roy williams- he stinks terrible coverage skills and please dont say hes good at the line of scrimmage we already got 7 monsters that do that already.

If we can do at least 2 of these reconstruck romos deal i think we wud have enough to sign moss and our draft picks. Your Thoughts?

If there are other ways to save some cap space please post them.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Greg Ellis- Love the guy hes been a great player ever since we drafted him but its spencers time to shine and just like the giants did you have to plug guys and rookies in and hope for the best and thats what we gotta do.

Why are we still trying to get rid of Greg Ellis?

I'm not sure what our cap room looks like now, but signing Randy Moss means we're putting all our chips in the middle, hoping that a.) we win a superbowl either next year or the year after and/or b.) the owners opt out of the CBA and we get that uncapped year.

-As far as creating space, Glenn is the easiest. With Moss on the team, he has no role and will be cut.
-Restructuring Romo can also create space although this could creat more problems doen the road.
-Extending TO should create lots of cap room (and I'd expect Jerry to give him an extension prior to officially signing Moss). I believe he carries a cap charge of 8 million or more
-Releasing Greg Ellis or trading him shouldn't be an option. But cutting Akin Ayodele either now or june 1rst should be done.
-Same with Anthony Henry. I'm not sure how much he would save but then we're banking on a rookie CB to play just as well as Henry which is a stretch. Who ever we draft should be the #3 CB.
-Cutting Roy Williams creates little room as well.

 

[Hoofbite]

Say we wanted to go after randy moss, does anybody know how we are suppost to clear like 10-15 mil because we still need to sign our draft picks and i think we only have around 3 mil in cap space. Say we reconstruck romos deal does that really save us that much in cap space so we can go get moss i dont think so. If we wanted to get moss we would have to cut players or trade them. Here is a list of players i would like to see cut or traded so we can save room for moss.

Greg Ellis- Love the guy hes been a great player ever since we drafted him but its spencers time to shine and just like the giants did you have to plug guys and rookies in and hope for the best and thats what we gotta do.

Terry Glenn- He needs to go simple as that

Anthony henry- Hes almost 32 and injury prone id rather trade or cut him save some cap space and draft 2 cb's in the first 3 rounds.

Roy williams- he stinks terrible coverage skills and please dont say hes good at the line of scrimmage we already got 7 monsters that do that already.

If we can do at least 2 of these reconstruck romos deal i think we wud have enough to sign moss and our draft picks. Your Thoughts?

If there are other ways to save some cap space please post them.

My thoughts.....I think its stupid. You lose a good player in Henry and rely on a rookie starting as a CB.

The offense doesn't need Randy Moss.

Dallas needs to just stay pat, pick players that can contribute in the roles needed and go with that.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Glenn prob is done but if hes not then we do not need moss quite as much.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Say we wanted to go after randy moss, does anybody know how we are suppost to clear like 10-15 mil because we still need to sign our draft picks and i think we only have around 3 mil in cap space. Say we reconstruck romos deal does that really save us that much in cap space so we can go get moss i dont think so. If we wanted to get moss we would have to cut players or trade them. Here is a list of players i would like to see cut or traded so we can save room for moss.

Greg Ellis- Love the guy hes been a great player ever since we drafted him but its spencers time to shine and just like the giants did you have to plug guys and rookies in and hope for the best and thats what we gotta do.

Terry Glenn- He needs to go simple as that

Anthony henry- Hes almost 32 and injury prone id rather trade or cut him save some cap space and draft 2 cb's in the first 3 rounds.

Roy williams- he stinks terrible coverage skills and please dont say hes good at the line of scrimmage we already got 7 monsters that do that already.

If we can do at least 2 of these reconstruck romos deal i think we wud have enough to sign moss and our draft picks. Your Thoughts?

If there are other ways to save some cap space please post them.

Ellis.....I think we guarenteed his contract so he would drop the fake injury routine. We probably take a nice cap hit if we trade or release him.

Glenn.....I think his knee is shot, agree he needs to go.

A Henery.....So we are going with Newman and a pair of rookies as our top 3 corners in the middle of a SB run? Dont think so.

R. Williams......For the 10 millionth time on this board, we cannot trade Roy without a MAJOR CAP HIT. If you are trying to clear cap space, getting rid of Roy is the last thing you want to do.


I think everybody is starting to realize that when you start crunching the numbers there is no way we can afford Moss.

 

[onfieldrush8141]

I dont have a problem with anything shooterware said. Terry glenn is gone, akin should be gone, maybe cut roy williams reconstruct romo, ellis maybe stay even though i would love to see spencer be the starter, and as for henry why does everybody think hes that good. I seen him get torched so many times last year. Hes slow and not durable, and yes i would rather stick a guy like cromartie or flowers, mclevin in there then henry. Henry gets injured every damn year and is old so why is everybody obsessed with this guy, i dont hate him but hes so overrated he wasnt great last year at all. All these players mentioned we just dont need and id rather see backrole players or draft players take there spot to save cap room. If we get moss we will have the best offense in the league, even though our defense will be good even if there average we still would have a great shot at the lombardi.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We could extend TO and convert part of his salary to a SB. Signing Barber, Canty and Hamlin to a long term deal will also lessen their cap hits. Im sure other players like Witten could have their contracts restructured to make this work as well.

 

[TwentyOne]

Say we wanted to go after randy moss, does anybody know how we are suppost to clear like 10-15 mil because we still need to sign our draft picks and i think we only have around 3 mil in cap space. Say we reconstruck romos deal does that really save us that much in cap space so we can go get moss i dont think so. If we wanted to get moss we would have to cut players or trade them. Here is a list of players i would like to see cut or traded so we can save room for moss.

Greg Ellis- Love the guy hes been a great player ever since we drafted him but its spencers time to shine and just like the giants did you have to plug guys and rookies in and hope for the best and thats what we gotta do.

Terry Glenn- He needs to go simple as that

Anthony henry- Hes almost 32 and injury prone id rather trade or cut him save some cap space and draft 2 cb's in the first 3 rounds.

Roy williams- he stinks terrible coverage skills and please dont say hes good at the line of scrimmage we already got 7 monsters that do that already.

If we can do at least 2 of these reconstruck romos deal i think we wud have enough to sign moss and our draft picks. Your Thoughts?

If there are other ways to save some cap space please post them.

as much as the idea fascinates me, we don't need moss.

last year we lost against the reigning sb champion and we should have won that game easily when i look on tape. it is not that the giants beat us in that game. a little tweak here and there and we should be fine.

no reason to sell the future on just one player.

 

[The Panch]

as much as the idea fascinates me, we don't need moss.

last year we lost against the reigning sb champion and we should have won that game easily when i look on tape. it is not that the giants beat us in that game. a little tweak here and there and we should be fine.

no reason to sell the future on just one player.

The fact is that was last year. We had a fairly easy schedule and our only real comp was NE, GB and the Giants the second time around. The competition is gonna be a lot stiffer next year and our schedule is hard as hell and make it not only tough within the conference, but to win the division. Folks need to get over what COULD'VE happened in that game and realize we're the ones looking up at the Giants, not the other way around. I dont care what we did in the regular season. Im not into being into competition, im into getting the best talent available to get a ring.

 

[TwentyOne]

The fact is that was last year. We had a fairly easy schedule and our only real comp was NE, GB and the Giants the second time around. The competition is gonna be a lot stiffer next year and our schedule is hard as hell and make it not only tough within the conference, but to win the division. Folks need to get over what COULD'VE happened in that game and realize we're the ones looking up at the Giants, not the other way around. I dont care what we did in the regular season. Im not into being into competition, im into getting the best talent available to get a ring.

you didn't get the point. it's not about looking up to the giants or woulda shoulda coulda. it's about facts, to be economical and clever.

our schedule is said to be hard. but nobody knows yet. teams change and just because looking at names and win/lose record of last year doesn't mean these teams will be strong coming season.

the nfl is all about average teams. so you don't need and with cap you can't asemble teams full of stars. this guy will command what ? maybe 10-12 mills per year. and this is not only about that year. i personally don't want a team that can compete this year but not the following 5 because we are in cap hell again or lost all our good players to fa.

redo romos contract ? do you really think romo will sell on that ? we all saw what happend last year. we are a top team which could have won the big one. so whos gonna tell romo: hey we need this guy because we are going nowhere without him but you gonna have less money at the end of the year. and look at ne - even with moss, brady and cheating it is not given you win the sb.

giving away ellis etc is just the same. why give away good players where we have to put in unproven rookies. why not draft and get fa for positions where we are thin or don't have a good set up. if we were better at maybe 2nd WR imlb and third cb we could have won the sb. those ware positions that wont demand alot of money but will improve our team so much more.

giving away draft pick ? why ? we have 2 firsts and are flexible because we do really not need starters at #1 positions. we get a good wr, rb, maybe 2 cbs in the draft and we are set.

this is the same thinking JJ had when he pulled Galloway to Dallas. we are one big signing away from the big game. thats not the way to build a team and a future for a franchise. look at how parcells did it in dallas and will do it again in miami, thats the way to do it. look at washington thats the way we shouldn't do it.

i am also about assembling the best talent but not that is available but rather the best we can afford. in my opinon having ware barber canty ellis tnew an maybe to on the team is much more talent then having moss. think about it. how many contracts are we able to extend next year or give long terms contracts to those players when we sign moss and how many do we lose ? all those names must be given a new contract in 2008/09.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We aren't signing Moss.

Plus we'll need to be creative with the cap in order to extend Newman this year. You can only be creative to a point.

 

[sago1]

I got an idea. Why don't we get rid of both Newman & Henry. Of course that would leave us with only David Ball at CB & a bunch of rookies. We don't need a good secretary cause with Moss opposite TO, we'll score every TDs every time we get our hands on the ball. Of course our offense will have to put up at least 45 points every game but Romo can do that. (sarcasim j/k).

 

[burmafrd]

better put the sarcasm in BOLD PRINT or something. judging from some of the posts in this thread there are those that are NOT SMART ENOUGH to figure it out.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Stephen Jones is an expert with our cap, therefore, if we want Moss bad enough......it will get done.

I just don't believe we are players for Moss.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What do we do if we get Moss?

One year deals totalling 5 years.


5 years / $50mil

$5 mil base - $5 mil roster bonus EVERY YEAR?


Any contract guru's out there?


Then we gotta do something similar for TO.... can they handle getting paid the same?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What do we do if we get Moss?

One year deals totalling 5 years.


5 years / $50mil

$5 mil base - $5 mil roster bonus EVERY YEAR?


Any contract guru's out there?


Then we gotta do something similar for TO.... can they handle getting paid the same?

Unless we are heading into an uncapped NFL, it's suicide, IMO.

 

[gazmc_06]

I think we can give them big signing bonuses, Moss and Owens earning the same would certainly avoid any possible problems, I am pretty sure it will be uncapped in 2011 and Moss can earn HUGE money in his final year.

 

[The Quest for Six]

There wont be an uncapped year and we wont be signing Moss..

 

[ajk23az]

I think we can give them big signing bonuses, Moss and Owens earning the same would certainly avoid any possible problems, I am pretty sure it will be uncapped in 2011 and Moss can earn HUGE money in his final year.

Pretty sure? And you know this how?

From media reports?

 

[DallasEast]

I think we can give them big signing bonuses, Moss and Owens earning the same would certainly avoid any possible problems, I am pretty sure it will be uncapped in 2011 and Moss can earn HUGE money in his final year.

"Uncapped"? I've been waiting 14 years for an uncapped season. I doubt that it'll ever happen again (darn it).