Rank the CB's

[Alexander]

I struggle with Awuzie because I want to like him but I always come away less than impressed by him. What King do you have at #12? Desmond or Kevin?

Kevin. I think Desmond will get shifted to FS.

 

[Risen Star]

Kevin King at #15 is comical.

I wasn't asking for your approval.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I wasn't asking for your approval.

And you didn't get it.

 

[Risen Star]

And you didn't get it.

Which leads me to believe I'm correct.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think Humphrey's been slept on a lot.

Saban plays a very conservative corner scheme.
Humphrey can cover, and he's great at run support. And he was a return threat in high school. He just didn't do it in college.

 

[Alexander]

Saban plays a very conservative corner scheme.
Humphrey can cover, and he's great at run support. And he was a return threat in high school. He just didn't do it in college.

I doubt he's good enough at returns to play him as a primary returner if he's a first rounder.

 

[rambo2]

Really interested in seeing how people feel about the CB's because opinions seem to be all over the place.

1. Lattimore
2. Humphrey
3. Tre White
4. Conley
5. Moreau
6. Kevin King
7. Awuzie
8. Adoree
9. J Lewis
10.Tankersley
11. Witherspoon
12. Q Wilson
13. Sutton
14. Howard Wilson
15. R Douglas

(Sidney Jones was the clear cut #2, not sure where he should be ranked now)

Not easy by the way. I could probably rerank #'s 6-12 about 5 times. You don't have to do 15 if you don't want, just curious to see who people want to target at an obvious position of need.

I really like where Dallas is picking at 28. They could end up with the best corner in the draft.

 

[tm1119]

I really like where Dallas is picking at 28. They could end up with the best corner in the draft.

Huh? The cowboys will be lucky to get 1 of the top 3, maybe 4. Unless you're implying that someone else is the top cb in the draft?

 

[rambo2]

Huh? The cowboys will be lucky to get 1 of the top 3, maybe 4. Unless you're implying that someone else is the top cb in the draft?

What you don't understand that the top corner in the draft probably isn't the first taken?

 

[tm1119]

What you don't understand that the top corner in the draft probably isn't the first taken?

Nope, don't understand. Use your big boy words and say who you think is the top CB

 

[rambo2]

Nope, don't understand. Use your big boy words and say who you think is the top CB

I think that there are several that have the potential to be great. Conley, Moreau, and Awuze are 3 that the Cowboys have a shot at.

 

[Alexander]

What you don't understand that the top corner in the draft probably isn't the first taken?

It does not always happen the consensus "best" corner really is. That is why the position is very much like WR, hard to evaluate due to systemic biases and translation to the NFL. Plus they are often flaky and it takes the right mental makeup to get it in the NFL.

2015 - Trae Waynes, Kevin Johnson, Marcus Peters - we know who the best one was, Waynes has been close to bust level
2014- Marcus Gilbert, Will Fuller, Darqueze Dennard - none of them really; best corner is Bradley Roby who was picked 31st
2013 - Dee Milliner, D.J. Hayden, Desmond Trufant - Trufant, hands down, Xavier Rhodes was taken next and might be even better and Darius Slay went 36th
2012 - Claiborne, Stephen Gilmore, Dre Kirkpatrick - Claiborne was a bust, fourth picked was Janoris Jenkins
2011 - Patrick Peterson, Prince Amukamara, Jimmy Smith - Peterson obviously.

 

[timb2]

Josh Thornton CB Southern Utah is suppose to be fast. His workout is March 20th.


Brian Allen from Utah ran a 4.48 forty at the combine and is 6ft-3inches.


David Rivers(6-1,184 lbs) CB Youngstown State 4.42 forty

Torren McGastor CB Vanderbilt ran a 4.48 forty at his pro day.

 

[Avery]

I would be fine with drafting three CB's this draft quite frankly. Draft where the depth is.

 

[timb2]

I'm trying to find info on a tall corner named Justin Gibbons 6-3,205 lbs from University of Aurora. They say he has track speed. Does anyone have any info on him. He looks raw in his highlights,but could be worth a look. One draft site has him running a 4.44 forty.

 

[timb2]

Dontello Brown (6-0,189 lbs) corner from Valdosta State they say he runs a 4.37 forty

 

[Alexander]

Dontello Brown (6-0,189 lbs) corner from Valdosta State they say he runs a 4.37 forty

Never heard of him.

NFLdraftscout has his estimated times at 4.5 and 4.6.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1021049&draftyear=2017&genpos=CB

Going to a 4.37 is a huge difference.

 

[Rockdoc]

but who have some of these fast guys covered?
thats why things being equal i want big conference talent at "skill" positions
i know there are some exceptions. thats what i would use later rounds for

 

[Floatyworm]

1. Lattimore - Hamstring issues are scary, but still the best.
2. Moreau - Now that Jones is out of the picture, most polished product.
3. Conley - Solid, but not as naturally talented as some others. Rank him higher because he seems more finished.
4. Humphrey - Biggest issue I have with him is he does not play the ball as well as he should. Like his aggression though.
5. White - Has the tools but just is too finesse for me.
6. Tankersley - Would rank him higher, but he is a flag magnet.
7. Q. Wilson - Wish he was a little less grabby, but he is decent.
8. Awuzie - Looks like a player that could make a long career as a 2nd, "just good enough" corner. Not flashy.
9. Douglas - Not for every team. Is not very physical either.
10. Jackson - Needs a lot of work. Would be a third CB/ST player until he gets it.
11. Tabor - Downgraded severely because he lacks a functional brain. Like a headache diva receiver who isn't even elite to make up for it.
12. King - Fits the mold, just wonder if he can translate that to the NFL.
13. Elder - Would rank higher but smallish and ticketed for slot duty.
14. H. Wilson - Very skinny and needs to fill out.
15. Sutton - Like others, I wish he was not so afraid to stick his nose in there.

Obviously Sidney Jones would be on this list at 2nd. I just left him off because I wouldn't draft a redshirt at the position unless it was on Day 3.

There are some others I like late, like Cutrer, Langley and Griffin.

Not a bad list....

1. Fabian Moreau CB UCLA
2. Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio St.
3. Marlon Humphrey CB Alabama
4. Gareon Conley CB Ohio St.

Quincy Wilson CB Florida
Cordrea Tankersley CB Clemson
Desmond King DB Iowa
Adoree Jackson CB/WR USC
Kevin King CB Washington
Jourdan Lewis CB Michigan
Cameron Sutton CB Tennessee
Tre'Davious White CB LSU
Sidney Jones CB Washington
Howard Wilson CB Houston
Jalen Tabor DB Florida
Damontae Kazee CB San Diego St.
Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado
Shaquill Griffin CB UCF
Jamar Summers CB Connecticut
Brendan Langley CB Lamar (TX)
Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia
Ahkello Witherspoon CB Colorado
Brian Allen CB Utah
Corn Elder CB Miami
Jalen Myrick DB Minnesota
Jeremy Cutrer CB Middle Tennessee
Greg Mabin CB Iowa
Ishmael Adams CB/KR UCLA
Channing Stribling CB Michigan
Des Lawrence CB N. Carolina
Demetrius Cox CB Michigan St.
Mike Tyson DB Cincinnati
Marquez White CB Florida St.
Ezra Robinson CB Tennessee St.
Treston Decoud CB Oregon St.

Nate Hairston CB Temple

 

[Floatyworm]

I would be fine with drafting three CB's this draft quite frankly. Draft where the depth is.

Dwayne Goodrich , Kareem Larrimore and Mario Edwards .....ring a bell? Not sure that worked out so well for us. Hopefully Jerry will remember this draft day blunder....But I seriously doubt it.