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More like territory than a home. It is hard to make them forget about it once they found food.

If they built the house and driveway, they can fix the walls :thumbup:
i want them in the territory to get rid of rodents.
if they are not dangerous, i dont see an issue.
i am 0.7 acres even though it is in SF bay area.

i dont know if those foam spraying trucks will go up the driveway.
it is so steep that most trucks cannot.
 
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i want them in the territory to get rid of rodents.
if they are not dangerous, i dont see an issue.
i am 0.7 acres even though it is in SF bay area.

i dont know if those foam spraying trucks will go up the driveway.
it is so steep that most trucks cannot.
the foam route isn't fail safe anyways. If you're not able to secure all access points, there's no guarantee over time the rats wont nibble away and burrow in there. I wouldn't recommend stray cats, they're probably more a nuisance.....they're pretty much rats but bigger!

Get that exterminator back to finish the job if possible and in the meantime, try those ultra sound things. They have pretty good reviews and not all that expensive
 

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the foam route isn't fail safe anyways. If you're not able to secure all access points, there's no guarantee over time the rats wont nibble away and burrow in there. I wouldn't recommend stray cats, they're probably more a nuisance.....they're pretty much rats but bigger!

Get that exterminator back to finish the job if possible

i paid lots of $ to reputable exterminators.
got no where.
too many decks and other strange designs in the house for them to do their job.

the difference between rat and cat is the cat cannot get between the outer wall and inner wall.
is there anything wrong with feral cats?
 

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i have been thinking about using foam for the walls but it is very difficult with steel i-beams every 6 feet.
trucks also have trouble coming up my driveway.
i am still thinking about that.

question is what home?
there is no place for them to nest...
but i dont know how feral cats live...

Serious question, Waldo. Why only once a month? Is that the only time you are at your home? That would give any surviving rats three whole weeks to reproduce, which is plenty of time to keep the rat problem growing for years. But if you did the cat thing, I can tell you from personal experience of living out in the country, that feral cats can live anywhere. Out at the plant my husband works at, they even had a pack of feral cats living out there, at the plant! They had so many cats and new kittens all the time, they couldn't even work without tripping over them, and they were nasty cats, too, pooing all over their equipment, etc. They even hauled them off to a wooded area about five miles away, but some found their way back, so the guys started taking them home as pets. Once you start feeding a hungry wild animal, it is nearly impossible to get them to leave. When we lived out at our old place, I used to feed the cats that wondered up, my husband used to call me the Cat Lady, but out there, we needed as many as we could get to keep the field rat population away. lol. But they can be just as loving as any domestic cat, and you might find yourself being closer to there than you realize. :)

So, even if they were successful in ridding the rats, you would then have feral cats living in that space. We have had feral cats give birth under our shed inside our fenced backyard, that is only about six inches off the ground. Lucky for us, the mama moved on after all her babies left, but we never made an attempt to feed them. If we had, they would have hung around waiting for the easy meal. Male cats may move on when the call of the wild strikes them, but female cats can linger for their whole lives, wanted or not. Never had the heart to "do away" with them or call for outside help. There was a feral female cat that lived between our and the neighbor's yard, slept under their RV in the driveway, for about two years. Turns out the neighbor had fed her for a couple of months early on and then she wouldn't leave. Husband wouldn't let me feed her, we really just hoped she would move on, she did survive off small wildlife in the woods right next to us, but she always came "home" to sleep under that camper. We found her one day in the ditch a little ways up the road, she had been run over. :(

Anyway, good luck with your problem. Think really hard about introducing ferals into your life. They can be very bothersome if you don't want them. And much more demanding than the rats are. The foam insulation is great for after the rat problem is taken care of, though.
 
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i paid lots of $ to reputable exterminators.
got no where.
too many decks and other strange designs in the house for them to do their job.

the difference between rat and cat is the cat cannot get between the outer wall and inner wall.
is there anything wrong with feral cats?
they'll rip apart your garbage, multiply, fight, in heat constantly and keep you up all night moaning, carry ticks, go the bathroom all over you property and most likely make you the least popular person on the block....to name a few things
 

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i paid lots of $ to reputable exterminators.
got no where.
too many decks and other strange designs in the house for them to do their job.

the difference between rat and cat is the cat cannot get between the outer wall and inner wall.
is there anything wrong with feral cats?

One thing you should consider is that male feral cats mark territory by urinating everywhere. If you're OK with the smell, proceed.
 

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they'll rip apart your garbage, multiply, fight, in heat constantly and keep you up all night moaning, carry ticks, go the bathroom all over you property and most likely make you the least popular person on the block....to name a few things

there are already feral cats in the neighborhood. if there is food once a month, would they just not eat and move on?
what do these cats do for a den?
 

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Yes sir. They spray everything they can reach. They also poo on stuff to mark it. But they don't usually sleep where they poo. At least not that I know of.

there are already feral cats in the neighborhood.
would having food once a month at my property induce them to make a den on my property?
 

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Serious question, Waldo. Why only once a month? Is that the only time you are at your home? That would give any surviving rats three whole weeks to reproduce, which is plenty of time to keep the rat problem growing for years. But if you did the cat thing, I can tell you from personal experience of living out in the country, that feral cats can live anywhere. Out at the plant my husband works at, they even had a pack of feral cats living out there, at the plant! They had so many cats and new kittens all the time, they couldn't even work without tripping over them, and they were nasty cats, too, pooing all over their equipment, etc. They even hauled them off to a wooded area about five miles away, but some found their way back, so the guys started taking them home as pets. Once you start feeding a hungry wild animal, it is nearly impossible to get them to leave. When we lived out at our old place, I used to feed the cats that wondered up, my husband used to call me the Cat Lady, but out there, we needed as many as we could get to keep the field rat population away. lol. But they can be just as loving as any domestic cat, and you might find yourself being closer to there than you realize. :)

So, even if they were successful in ridding the rats, you would then have feral cats living in that space. We have had feral cats give birth under our shed inside our fenced backyard, that is only about six inches off the ground. Lucky for us, the mama moved on after all her babies left, but we never made an attempt to feed them. If we had, they would have hung around waiting for the easy meal. Male cats may move on when the call of the wild strikes them, but female cats can linger for their whole lives, wanted or not. Never had the heart to "do away" with them or call for outside help. There was a feral female cat that lived between our and the neighbor's yard, slept under their RV in the driveway, for about two years. Turns out the neighbor had fed her for a couple of months early on and then she wouldn't leave. Husband wouldn't let me feed her, we really just hoped she would move on, she did survive off small wildlife in the woods right next to us, but she always came "home" to sleep under that camper. We found her one day in the ditch a little ways up the road, she had been run over. :(

Anyway, good luck with your problem. Think really hard about introducing ferals into your life. They can be very bothersome if you don't want them. And much more demanding than the rats are. The foam insulation is great for after the rat problem is taken care of, though.

thanks for the long post.
i am only there for 1 or 2 days per month.
the house is in SF subs.
houses have 0.5-0.7 acres each.
there are 3 houses including mine that are on the foothills with steep driveways.
there are no man-made structures for the cats to take shelter in, not even a car/camper outside.
i have no idea what their habits are and how they chose a den though.
 

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Not all cats will get rid of rats and it also depends on how big the rat is as well. If the cat attacks it, the rat could crawl back into the wall and die there, which creates a whole new problem.

I would suggest rat traps, whether deadly or humane. You might be surprised to find out it's more than one rat or not even a rat :D
 
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