Ratliff, Canty or Watkins

[Stautner]

Eh? You ask WHY I singled out Ratliff and Canty. I singled them out because they were part of the topic of discussion. The Cowboys have Ratliff, Canty, Spears, Ferguson, Hatcher, Coleman, and Parker on the defensive line. Of those players Ratliff, Canty, Spears, and Hatcher could easliy get offers from other teams. The topic was Canty and Ratliff so I applied the principal to those players.

What argument are you actually trying to make?

You completely eliminated TWO guys from the discussion because there are FOUR guys on the D-line that might get an offer in a few years - and that if that happens we might not choose to match the offer?

Sure there is a possibility that any of the 4 guys on the D-line you mentioned could get an offer we choose not to match, and there is a possiblity that one or two of those guys could be Ratliff or Canty (just as it's a possibility that we could find a way to keep all 4 of them).

But that's not what you said - you said you expected both of them to be gone for greener pastures, and that's what doesn't make sense.

I don't understand eliminating 2 of the 3 guys the topic is about based on ifs, mights, and coulds .......

 

[YosemiteSam]

nyc: I object, your honor. Stautner is being argumentative.
Judge: [SIZE=-1]Sustained.[/SIZE]

 

[Stautner]

nyc: I object, your honor. Stautner is being argumentative.
Judge: [SIZE=-1]Sustained.[/SIZE]

Overruled on the grounds that the question is relevent.

The witness is instructed to answer the question.

How is it valid to expect Ratliff and Canty to leave and therefore eliminate two-thirds (2/3) of the topic based on if something happens to any of four (not 2) players and what might or could result?

You can't just kill 2/3 of a topic simply because something might or might not happen to 2 players - especially when it could just as easily happen to 2 other players, or to just one of the two, or to none, or to or any combination thereof.

It's like saying I expect one player, Julius Jones, to leave because any one of three players, JJ, Barber and/or Thompson, might or might not get an offer that we might not or might not match.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The 2nd Day GEMS are piling up!

Jason Hatcher (3rd round, GEM)

I like your enthusiasm, but the 3rd round is the 1st day of the draft

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Also do not forget Jacques Reeves

I, along w/ many others, think Reeves would make for a very good nickel corner, and maybe a pretty solid #2

and Nate Jones isn't flashy, but he helps our kick-off and punt coverage units which annually rank as the league's best, usually, great value for a 6th/7th

 

[L-O-Jete]

Overruled on the grounds that the question is relevent.

The witness is instructed to answer the question.

How is it valid to expect Ratliff and Canty to leave and therefore eliminate two-thirds (2/3) of the topic based on if something happens to any of four players (not just those 2) and what might or could result?

You can't just kill 2/3 of a topic simply because something might or might not happen to 2 players - especially when it could just as easily happen to 2 other players, or to just one of the two, or to none, or to or any combination thereof.

It's like saying I expect Julius Jones to leave because JJ, Barber and/or Thompson might get an offer that we might not match and any one of them could leave.

Spears, Ratliff, Canty & Hatcher all seem to be starter quality DE's, I really don't think we'll be able to pay 3 starting DE's salaries in a couple of years, he picked 2 that sound reasonable to stay, Spears and Hatcher. Who do you say we'll keep, or do you think one of the 4 won't get a starter offer?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Overruled on the grounds that the question is relevent.

The witness is instructed to answer the question.

How is it valid to expect Ratliff and Canty to leave and therefore eliminate two-thirds (2/3) of the topic based on if something happens to any of four (not 2) players and what might or could result?

You can't just kill 2/3 of a topic simply because something might or might not happen to 2 players - especially when it could just as easily happen to 2 other players, or to just one of the two, or to none, or to or any combination thereof.

It's like saying I expect one player, Julius Jones, to leave because any one of three players, JJ, Barber and/or Thompson, might or might not get an offer that we might not or might not match.

Here is my point. MONEY!!!

• Jay Ratliff: His best option to stay would be if he excels at DT and can play DE. That would give the Cowboys reason to pay him. Ratliff thus far has shown enough ability that several teams would jump all over him. Cowboys will have to cough up millions or he is gone.
• Chris Canty: He has all the tools to be a dominate DE in this league. He dropped in the draft because several teams questioned if he could recover from knee and eye injury and also had several other injuries in 2002. So there were durability questions. Last year he played in all 16 games. That raises his stock and his price. Do the Cowboys pay Canty millions or do they give it to Ratliff, Spears, or Hatcher.

My final point. I NEVER said the Cowboys would let them leave in free agency, I only said I expect that they will. Something you don't seem to understand. The Cowboys can't keep everyone.

Now, since your response seem like nothing more that attempts at agitation. I will ignore any other comments in response.

Judge: Stautner, you are now in contempt of court.
Judge: Bailiff, please remove Stautner from the court.

 

[Stautner]

Here is my point. MONEY!!!

• Jay Ratliff: His best option to stay would be if he excels at DT and can play DE. That would give the Cowboys reason to pay him. Ratliff thus far has shown enough ability that several teams would jump all over him. Cowboys will have to cough up millions or he is gone.
• Chris Canty: He has all the tools to be a dominate DE in this league. He dropped in the draft because several teams questioned if he could recover from knee and eye injury and also had several other injuries in 2002. So there were durability questions. Last year he played in all 16 games. That raises his stock and his price. Do the Cowboys pay Canty millions or do they give it to Ratliff, Spears, or Hatcher.

My final point. I NEVER said the Cowboys would let them leave in free agency, I only said I expect that they will. Something you don't seem to understand. The Cowboys can't keep everyone.

Now, since your response seem like nothing more that attempts at agitation. I will ignore any other comments in response.

Judge: Stautner, you are now in contempt of court.
Judge: Bailiff, please remove Stautner from the court.

You still aren't paying attention.

I already told you i understood that money is an issue, but .....

You wiped out 2/3 of this topic when the players affected (IF any are) could just as easily be Spears and/or Hatcher ........or maybe no DE at all ......

66.7% of the choices gone based on something that has as much chance of NOT happening as it does of happening ....

2 out of 3 choices eliminated because of a money situation that may even be handled by cutting a high priced player other than a DE ....

Do you get it? It's completely illogical to eliminate 2 choices based on a single possibility out of the MYRIAD of possibilities that could occur.