Razorback Matchup: Felix Jones Vs. Darren McFadden (Round 1 Of 16 Rounds)

[Maikeru-sama]

Pretty dumb to compare the two.

Felix Jones is on a roster full of Pro Bowlers and McFadden is on the Raiders.

Week 1 doesn't change anything, you still take McFadden over Jones if you could do the draft over again.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I sitll like DMac, but FJ is making feel better about the entire situation.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Pretty irrelevant thread. Put Felix Jones on the raiders roster and he doesn't look so hot either.


Put Darren McFadden on the cowboys roster and he's a superstar.




Unless the OP believes the raiders and cowboys rosters are equal in talent.

Yeah, this comparison is pretty useless really. DMac has no help, Felix has plenty. What is unrated is how good the OL is in Minnesota for AP, put DMac that team or on our team, and he would put up some big numbers.

Wish some would see that this is a team sport.

 

[DallasEast]

Yeah, this comparison is pretty useless really. DMac has no help, Felix has plenty. What is unrated is how good the OL is in Minnesota for AP, put DMac that team or on our team, and he would put up some big numbers.

Wish some would see that this is a team sport.

Unless he sustains a career-ending injury in the next season or two, Peterson will end up in the Hall of Fame. There's no doubt in my mind, but it's silly to compare someone like him and McFadden and say Darren isn't a great back because he's not Peterson.

There 15 games left. Plenty of time for McFadden to create plenty of highlight reels and the same goes for Felix Jones.

 

[khiladi]

Raiders have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL, while the Cowboys have one of the best, with one of the best OL coaches in the game. They also have TO to create double-teams downfield, and one of the best tight-ends in the game, that always is going to grab extra attention from LBs. Dallas is a vertical offense, which puts a lot of pressure on the secondary in providing any run support.

There is no comparison between the two, because the variables that affect their output are so different.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

And even Chris Johnson got hurt.

he didn't get hurt his legs got cramped up he isn't any more hurt than barber is.

Week One (Round 1)

Darren McFadden (4th Pick)
http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=MCF084974

9 Carries For 46 Yards
5.1 Yards Per Carry
1 Catch For 11 Yards

____________________
Felix Jones (22nd Pick)
http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=JON313929

9 Carries For 62 Yards
6.9 Yards Per Carry
1 Rushing Touchdown


Big Difference?

I would have to say the difference he plays for the Raiders and Jones plays for the cowboys. Although I think Dmac will end up with more rushing yards by the end of the season.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Mcfadden is better than Felix, point blank. But i still dont see what all the fuss was about with Mcfadden. He's not some franchise changing back or anything but he's good. Not on AP's level. But, Felix is my boy now and he doesn't have to be better than Mcfadden.

I greatly disagree...McFadden is a more of a freak when it comes to speed, but Felix has more football skills, PERIOD. Mcfadden was the better college player, he could rely on his natural talents there and more readily get away with it, but there are a number of freaks on this level.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I greatly disagree...McFadden is a more of a freak when it comes to speed, but Felix has more football skills, PERIOD. Mcfadden was the better college player, he could rely on his natural talents there and more readily get away with it, but there are a number of freaks on this level.

How does felix have more football skills ?

 

[Hostile]

Pretty irrelevant thread. Put Felix Jones on the raiders roster and he doesn't look so hot either.


Put Darren McFadden on the cowboys roster and he's a superstar.




Unless the OP believes the raiders and cowboys rosters are equal in talent.

Pretty dumb to compare the two.

Felix Jones is on a roster full of Pro Bowlers and McFadden is on the Raiders.

Week 1 doesn't change anything, you still take McFadden over Jones if you could do the draft over again.

You've got to consider the source of the idea. Not exactly quantum physics.

 

[superonyx]

I think its way to early to really say how any of these rookies will pan out. But it does make for good conversations. It actually has me watching to see what the Titans or Raiders do....

When people say Felix has more football skills than Mcfadden i would think they are referring to the things that you cant measure at the scouting combine. With a runningback that would be Vision, decision making, wiggle, ect. Pretty much the things that made a running back like Emmitt Smith so good. It wasnt his amazing size, speed, strength. It was his vision. Just about every running back in the NFL has enough speed to be very productive. But not many have the instincts needed to be great.
That actually goes for every position. Does anyone think TO is the best because he is the fastest. Or Michael Irvin. Or Jason Witten?
Look at Romo.... he isnt the best at anything that would show up in workouts. Put him in live action and he shows what makes him so special.

 

[Biggems]

I think Forte would have done just fine.....

Barber starts the game and beats up the defense.

Forte comes in and beats up the defense.

Barber comes back in and beats up the defense.

Forte comes back in and beats up the defense.

Choice comes in and beats up the defense


I am happy with Felix. I will admit I didn't want him, I wanted Jamaal Charles. However, I am more than pleased with his attitude, work ethic, and production on the field. Felix was definitely a solid draft choice in a RB rich draft.

 

[Biggems]

I can understand Dallas not getting Felix on the field but the Raiders have no reason not to put him out there.

All that talent in Oakland is screwed.

except for the fact that Fargas had a great year last year and already knows the offense. Fargas is better equipped at this stage to pick up blitzes on passing downs to protect Russell. Personally, I think they should run a split backfield with Fargas and DMac.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I think its way to early to really say how any of these rookies will pan out. But it does make for good conversations. It actually has me watching to see what the Titans or Raiders do....

When people say Felix has more football skills than Mcfadden i would think they are referring to the things that you cant measure at the scouting combine. With a runningback that would be Vision, decision making, wiggle, ect. Pretty much the things that made a running back like Emmitt Smith so good. It wasnt his amazing size, speed, strength. It was his vision. Just about every running back in the NFL has enough speed to be very productive. But not many have the instincts needed to be great.
That actually goes for every position. Does anyone think TO is the best because he is the fastest. Or Michael Irvin. Or Jason Witten?
Look at Romo.... he isnt the best at anything that would show up in workouts. Put him in live action and he shows what makes him so special.

I don't think Mcfadden is lacking in any of those aspects.

I think Forte would have done just fine.....

Barber starts the game and beats up the defense.

Forte comes in and beats up the defense.

Barber comes back in and beats up the defense.

Forte comes back in and beats up the defense.

Choice comes in and beats up the defense


I am happy with Felix. I will admit I didn't want him, I wanted Jamaal Charles. However, I am more than pleased with his attitude, work ethic, and production on the field. Felix was definitely a solid draft choice in a RB rich draft.

If they wanted two RB that are work horses they would have drafted Mendenhall however Felix is supposed to be change of pace and spell Mb3 but didn't come into the game until MB3 got dinged up :bang2:so I'm not sold on felix until i see him worked more into the offense and used how they said they would use him.

 

[PBJTime]

I think its way to early to really say how any of these rookies will pan out. But it does make for good conversations. It actually has me watching to see what the Titans or Raiders do....

When people say Felix has more football skills than Mcfadden i would think they are referring to the things that you cant measure at the scouting combine. With a runningback that would be Vision, decision making, wiggle, ect. Pretty much the things that made a running back like Emmitt Smith so good. It wasnt his amazing size, speed, strength. It was his vision. Just about every running back in the NFL has enough speed to be very productive. But not many have the instincts needed to be great.
That actually goes for every position. Does anyone think TO is the best because he is the fastest. Or Michael Irvin. Or Jason Witten?
Look at Romo.... he isnt the best at anything that would show up in workouts. Put him in live action and he shows what makes him so special.

I totally agree with this. There's no guarantee that DMac will be better than anybody else. Having said that, I'd still take him if given the opportunity in the draft.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't think Mcfadden is lacking in any of those aspects.

If they wanted two RB that are work horses they would have drafted Mendenhall however Felix is supposed to be change of pace and spell Mb3 but didn't come into the game until MB3 got dinged up :bang2:so I'm not sold on felix until i see him worked more into the offense and used how they said they would use him.

 

[wileedog]

Al lost it LONG ago...

He is the worst owner in sports... sans Steinbrenner....

Not to derail, but Davis is far worse than Steinbrenner. King George for all his bluster has a lot more championships than Al, and the Yankees only reached the Raider's level of dysfunction once in the late 70's.

Danny boy is FAR FAR worse, if for no other reason than because he is going to be around a heck of a lot longer to botch the heck out of everything than Al will.

 

[thechosen1n2]

How does felix have more football skills ?

mcfadden is pure speed. when i watched him at arkansas i didnt see too much "uhh, ahh" "make you miss" in his game, he simply out ran everyone, and contrary to what people tried to say, he is no A.P. Felix on the other hand is fast (not dmac fast) but fast non the less. Hes quicker, takes better angles, reads blocks better (although mcfadden isnt a reggie bush mental midget when it comes to block reading), and is a better receiver. Now do to mcfaddens unearthly speed, he was a better college talent than felix (though felix averaged over 7 yards a carry for two years) but felix had more football skills all along, and in the nfl where everyone is fast felix is less likey to be contained than mcfadden. Make no mistake we are better off having felix with this system we have, than mcfadden. Felix will be instant impact in some shape or form at any level of football, and whether its running between the tackles, outside pitches and sweeps, punt return, kickoff return, and receiving plays. That can not be said for mcfadden.

 

[Big Dakota]

:cop:

 

[DCBoysfan]

BTW, McFadden got hurt last night. Hurt shoulder. I been saying for some time now that McFadden runs too high and will get hurt. Well, his first game, he got hurt. If he continues to run high, that slender body will not hold up.

Felix Jones is a perfect fit for the Cowboys and is a better pick over McFadden, Mendenhall and Ray Rice.

The only other back that would of been a good fit was Chris Johnson.

They said the same thing about Adrian Peterson (sp), that should get corrected with coaching.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

speak up I don't understand these smilies

mcfadden is pure speed. when i watched him at arkansas i didnt see too much "uhh, ahh" "make you miss" in his game, he simply out ran everyone, and contrary to what people tried to say he is no A.P. Felix on the other hand is is fast (not dmac fast) but fast non the less, hes quicker, takes better angles, reads blocks better (although mcfadden isnt a reggie bush mental midget when it comes to block reading), and is a better receiver. Now do to mcfaddens unearthly speed he was a better college talent than felix (though felix average over 7 yards a carry for two years) but felix had more football skills all along, and in the nfl where everyone is fast felix is less likey to be contained that mcfadden.

This a joke ???? You really can't be serious with this. I really don't want to get into how much you're wrong on this aspect however you're wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about and its obvious in what you post. Honestly you making it seem like Mcfadden was this bumbling idiot of a RB and just lucked up in what he did in college against the SEC. However your view of Felix is that he was this All-American RB coming off the bench????


Like lets be realistic for half a second DMac doesn't become an All-American RB in the SEC just because he can run fast. He doesn't become a Heighsman finalist 2 years in a row because he runs fast. He isn't selected #4 overall because he runs fast. Also Arkansas offense didn't give him the ball on the edge to take advantage of his speed like they did with Felix. Felix wasn't the one lining up at QB running the option.