RB betts signs a 5 year deals! HAHAHA

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CowboyChris;1218413 said:
what happens to Duckett and Cartwright?? thats alot invested in Portis and Betts. lastly good for Betts he put in his dues and earned his keep.:starspin

Duckett most likely will be gone after this season. As for Cartwright, everyone loves him and he will be our 3rd string RB/KO return guy/ special teams baller.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1218421 said:
The salary cap for 2007 works out to almost 2 million dollars per player and that numbers only going to rise by when this deal ends in 2011/12.

It's a bargain to wrap up a player like Betts for what's going to look like chump change in a few years even if he's never more than a 10 touch a game type backup.

:hammer: I like this move, Portis will probably always miss games during a season

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This is actually pretty scary for Cowboys' fans in that it looks like the Commanders' FO may have a clue after all. Pray to God that they never figure out financial responsibility in the FA market or that draft picks are something to be valued.

it'll take a couple of years of frugal free agent spending, and picking up the right guys w/ that money, and drafting well, for me to start worrying about the Commander's roster, it will take awhile IMO for them to stack up enough roster talent
 

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It's not that Betts isn't a quality player, but look around the league: virtually every team has a quality or star RB, and several teams have 2 good ones. RB may be the easiest position to fill in today's NFL, and therefore, a RB shouldn't be highly paid unless your #1 guy is a real stud. The smart thing to do is spend cap $s elsewhere. It's just too easy to find a decent RB in the draft. Backup RB is a place you should really save some cap $; instead the Skins pay him better than some teams pay their starting RB. It's comical for a team that is cap challenged and has few draft picks.
 

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Double Trouble;1218532 said:
It's comical for a team that is cap challenged and has few draft picks.

it's actually smart, since teams need 2 good backs, it builds a strong running game, and that is one of the foundations for a good football team

it's smarter to spend money to keep your quality players, and backups, than it is to spend that type of money on a guy like, let's say Antwan Randle-El, and Bett's salary isn't near approaching those figures

again, good move
 

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CowboyChris;1218426 said:
The Skins FO has banked on the fact that the salary cap goes up every year, this is why they havent hit salary cap hell. thats how they get away with their annual shopping sprees. its the trading of their draft picks and refusing to build through the draft that i hope they dont figure out.:starspin

Even if they did realize the importance of building through the draft, they still come up short on the ability to scout college players. What I hope for the most is that they don't ever get rid of cerrato and replace him with a capable GM.
 

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I think it's a solid deal for them. Betts is a good RB and is more than adequate in stepping into a starting role.

I don't think you're going to find many Skins fans welcoming Duckett back in 2007.
 

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summerisfunner;1218562 said:
it's actually smart, since teams need 2 good backs, it builds a strong running game, and that is one of the foundations for a good football team

it's smarter to spend money to keep your quality players, and backups, than it is to spend that type of money on a guy like, let's say Antwan Randle-El, and Bett's salary isn't near approaching those figures

again, good move
No, it isn't a good move. You don't pay a backup RB this kind of $. Backup RBs - while important - are easy to find....probably easier than any other position. The draft is chock full, as usual, of solid RB prospects. As someone pointed out, this is more than both of Dallas' RBs make. $2M isn't a ton of cap space, but when you're up against it like the Commanders are, you have to find places to save $. This is precisely where a 3rd or 4th round pick would have filled in perfectly....if they had one. This signing is just the result of more horrible personnel management, probably as a result of the Duckett trade.
 

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Double Trouble;1218614 said:
No, it isn't a good move. You don't pay a backup RB this kind of $. Backup RBs - while important - are easy to find....probably easier than any other position. The draft is chock full, as usual, of solid RB prospects. As someone pointed out, this is more than both of Dallas' RBs make. $2M isn't a ton of cap space, but when you're up against it like the Commanders are, you have to find places to save $. This is precisely where a 3rd or 4th round pick would have filled in perfectly....if they had one. This signing is just the result of more horrible personnel management, probably as a result of the Duckett trade.

agree to disagree I guess
 

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CowboyChris;1218426 said:
The Skins FO has banked on the fact that the salary cap goes up every year, this is why they havent hit salary cap hell. thats how they get away with their annual shopping sprees. its the trading of their draft picks and refusing to build through the draft that i hope they dont figure out.:starspin
League officials have been saying that the salary would go up for years now. People say that the salary cap will keep increasing drastically up until the 2011 season now. Now, hearing this, dont you think that the skins might have thought in advance, and maybe figured that in the upcoming years that this contract wont be so big?

there is a reason why they set up the contracts the way they do. Dont you think that this could be because they know something along these lines?
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1218656 said:
League officials have been saying that the salary would go up for years now. People say that the salary cap will keep increasing drastically up until the 2011 season now. Now, hearing this, dont you think that the skins might have thought in advance, and maybe figured that in the upcoming years that this contract wont be so big?

there is a reason why they set up the contracts the way they do. Dont you think that this could be because they know something along these lines?

dont you think i said as much in my earlier post? hence i said the skins "bank" on the fact that the salary cap goes up every year and thats why they arent in salary cap hell. hope you understand
 

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Why are we talkin about this garbage team?

We are having a great season. Many are picking us for the Super Bowl and we are America's Team.

Don't pollute the forum with crap about that garbage franchise. They are the most expensive pile of junk in NFL history, and should be banned because they have no significance to the NFL, or its history.

Lets close this stupid thread and worry about the important stuff...like teams that will actually be playing in January. Let these idiots spend their money and do whatever the #@% else they want. It shouldn't matter to us.


Man I love the way you think.. Well said!!!!:hammer:
 

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CowboyChris;1218665 said:
dont you think i said as much in my earlier post? hence i said the skins "bank" on the fact that the salary cap goes up every year and thats why they arent in salary cap hell. hope you understand

I guess I took "bank" in a different context. I thought it sounded like you were trying to say that they were basically putting all of their stock that it would go up, but didnt in fact know for sure that it would go up.

sorry for the confusion
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1218678 said:
sorry for the confusion

It feels good being on a dynasty's webpage huh? You get that tingling feeling inside and you kinda start avoiding the Sports section of the Washington Post to prevent from being reminded of the mistake you made when you chose to embrace an NFL team as your favorite.

Kind of uncomfortable now cause it's a little too late to turn back since all your friends think ur a fan of that team, but in actually you can't get enough of the Cowboys and you get that same tingling feeling when you see Romo drop back to pass or Roy put a lick on somebody.

I know you're confused. Why can't you guys have a great coach, 5 Super Bowl titles, and be America's Team? It's just not fair huh? Usually money buys everything, but for some reason it's just not working this time huh? Don't worry, the season will be over very soon for yall and ur misery will end. Until then, enjoy our forum, and the feeling of being a part of something special.

PS. I'm sure you could mail those unused Sports Section copies, with some Windex, to that piece of trash safety Archuleta. He's probably gonna be looking for a job here pretty soon, so its fitting that the windshield washing business drops right into his hands like this. But then again, considering Snyder's brilliant decision making, Archuleta is probably due a $60 million contract extension pretty soon, so nevermind.
 

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21JJ21;1218204 said:
another BAD MOVE from that bad GM lol

gj DEADSKINS :)

I dunno, seems like a fair price for a backup with that kind of production...
 

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Not a bad move, IMO. Betts is a good backup, as he's showing right now. Does Portis have an injury history, or is this his first year getting hurt? If he DOES have an injury history, it makes the move even wiser IMO.

Yeah, it's a big contract for a backup. But to be honest, I'd love to see us lock down Barber -- if he's still in a backup role -- even if it's for the same amount of money.

The real head scratcher remains their decision to trade for Duckett.

To add, I think the "classic" Commanders move in this instance is to part ways with the productive player you actually drafted in order to make way for the overpriced has-been you acquired in free agency. I'm surprised they went against that trend in this case. If I were a Commanders fan, I'd be happy we're keeping Betts and not forcing the name player (Duckett) into the backup role.
 

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Dale;1218770 said:
Not a bad move, IMO. Betts is a good backup, as he's showing right now. Does Portis have an injury history, or is this his first year getting hurt? If he DOES have an injury history, it makes the move even wiser IMO.

in the past 2 years in Washington, Portis hasn't played in all 16 games
 

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I have been thinking for the last month or so that Portis will be traded.
I am not sure that I want it to happen, but I could see it happening.

Betts, Duckett (who I expect them to re-sign cheap based on picks lost), and Cartwright would still be a formidable RB corps.

Look at the SB and RB. Why is it that so many of you guys dont see that ? You guys get caught up in the total when realistically its nothing if the cap continues to go up year after year as dramatically as expected (and posted by Adam).
 
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