RB target: Thomas Rawls

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Bradshaw is a pretty good back. If it weren't for his injuries.

Now that is a older back I could get behind! He played really well for Indy last year until he got hurt. But you're right, the injuries......
 

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This kind of conversation is encouraging. . It's good to see the board start to come around and realize all is not alright at rb.

Small consolation when there is still the notion is still cemented around here that anyone, including another team's UDFA, is going to rumble through all the holes the OL is going to make.
 

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Why McFadden? Why Ryan Williams?

I don't care about who he has and hasn't beat out elsewhere, he's young, considered an athletic freak, and has more potential than the RBs currently on our practice squad.

Will he impress when he gets here? Who knows. But I'd certainly bring him in to see how he does.

Gee, what did we giv up for those guys? Yet people want to trade for him
 

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guy we tried to sign but Seattle got. Played 3 years at Michigan then his final year at Central Michigan. Watching him right now in his first preseason action against Denver. He is tough runner with good vision. Really runs hard into the hole and gets what's blocked. Plus he is bigger than all our backs in terms of compact strength. Unless Seattle trades or cuts Michael, they will probably try to slip Rawls onto practice squad. We should consider signing him if they do. And maybe cut Dunbar or McFadden if he can't get healthy. Or carry 4 RBs during McClain and Hardy suspensions.

I'd prefer to go after a more proven player if we are going to try to upgrade the RB position. Rawls may turn out to be great, but the idea of relying on backs who can't stay healthy or have limited to no pro experience makes me queasy, unless it's someone like Gurley.

I'd love to see Dallas work out something with St. Louis for Tre Mason while they are practicing with the Rams next week. or look at a few other backups who've shown they can do it on this level.
 

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Small consolation when there is still the notion is still cemented around here that anyone, including another team's UDFA, is going to rumble through all the holes the OL is going to make.

Nate Newton addressed this during Thursday night's game, saying essentially that a good line was made great by Emmitt. Expecting just any RB to have success is just silly. They still have to have the vision to see the holes, the burst to get through the holes and the power/balance to shrug off any arm tackles or that one defender who is unaccounted for by blocking (especially in eight-man fronts).
 

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Nate Newton addressed this during Thursday night's game, saying essentially that a good line was made great by Emmitt. Expecting just any RB to have success is just silly. They still have to have the vision to see the holes, the burst to get through the holes and the power/balance to shrug off any arm tackles or that one defender who is unaccounted for by blocking (especially in eight-man fronts).

I would agree that it was Emmitt that made them great. But in last years case it was a great OL that made a good RB great.
 

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Today's the day. Get on the field and don't come off of it, or get out.

I hope for his, the team's, and your sake that things work out.

If he wasn't rich I would bribe him to wait a couple of more days just to see your reaction...:grin:
 

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Nate Newton addressed this during Thursday night's game, saying essentially that a good line was made great by Emmitt. Expecting just any RB to have success is just silly. They still have to have the vision to see the holes, the burst to get through the holes and the power/balance to shrug off any arm tackles or that one defender who is unaccounted for by blocking (especially in eight-man fronts).

He also said this current OL could do things that they couldn't because they are more athletic.
 

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I would agree that it was Emmitt that made them great. But in last years case it was a great OL that made a good RB great.

Take a look at:
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/offensive-players/running-backs

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

You will need to read up on what each stat means if you aren't familiar with these sites. But they have put in a lot of time to really evaluate positions and position groups.

Murray, for whatever reason, has been greatly underrated by Cowboys fans.
 

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This kind of conversation is encouraging. . It's good to see the board start to come around and realize all is not alright at rb.

The top 3 backs haven't played yet do those who feel that way really have no reason to. I want to see all 3 play first. Another 2 weeks and we will have a better idea.
 

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IDK guys. I didn't see him break a lot tackles and he's not fast. For me he's a good college RB that I don't see doing much more than hanging on in the NFL. JMO.

This.

Another case of thinking the grass being greener....
 

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Take a look at:
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/offensive-players/running-backs

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

You will need to read up on what each stat means if you aren't familiar with these sites. But they have put in a lot of time to really evaluate positions and position groups.

Murray, for whatever reason, has been greatly underrated by Cowboys fans.

I watched plenty of football to know the difference between a good RB and a great one. I don't need some stat nerds to tell me.
 

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I would agree that it was Emmitt that made them great. But in last years case it was a great OL that made a good RB great.

And I'll contend that Murray was playing great before we had that line complete. He averaged 5.2 the previous year behind two first-time starters, including a rookie, and Bernadeau. He had his best average (on less than 200 carries) with Phil Costa at center his first year.

Our offensive line is very good and any running back will benefit from that along with our excellent passing game. How much they benefit will depend on how good the back is.
 

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The top 3 backs haven't played yet do those who feel that way really have no reason to. I want to see all 3 play first. Another 2 weeks and we will have a better idea.

Or we'll still be waiting for McFadden to be healthy.
 
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