RB

[darthseinfeld]

Ok, let me try this again INTELLIGENCE, Mariotta has it, Derek Carr has it, not too mention he had an older brother who played for years in the NFL, even though the Texans ruined him by not putting a OL in fornt of him thereby making him gun shy. Cam, well they still run alot of zone read for Cam it seems this season he has finally started to learn how to read defenses, a little he is still not sure, when he runs it is because he does not understand what the coverage is, the majority of the time, no Cam was not a good example to use.
I am not saying because they run a spread offense that they cannot pickup an NFL offense, the spread offense slows their learning, but the spread offense does not help them learn defenses

Oh, I do not like Cam one bit

But what makes you think Lynch doesnt have intelligence? All you mentioned was the offense he runs. All those guys ran a simple offense too

 

[waving monkey]

You mean majority. If you are listening to media and the supposedly experts then stop, they will lead you astray every single time, they do not know what they are talking about, some of those scouts you should not listen too

where are you getting your information from

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Ezekiel Elliot needs to be our first pick, there is no QB in this draft that is a must. We are not in dire need of drafting a QB this draft, we can hold off till the year's draft, I am willing to bet there will be better QB's coming out then.
this draft has a lot of Defensive players that will go off the board fast and quickly. we need another superstar RB and Elliot is that guy.

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Jeup, RB is a top Offensive need. Odds are by the Draft, Dallas will have signed a veteran QB. Not saying that it is impossible to sign a Vet. (KaperPick, RGKNee, Johnny No U) AND Draft a 1st round QB, JUST NOT LIKELY.

Can't take Zeke at #4 thru #8 when he's rated around mid-pick in the 1st, #15-25, unless they are 100% sure he will be a Day 1 starter. Dallas brought in WRs before the 2015 Draft including Green-Beckham but there were far more RBs in for a Pre-Draft visit, including TJ Weldon, Gurley, Gordon, Ajayi and T. Coleman.

Meanwhile there are a couple of prospects defensively that rank as top 5s', whom jump outta the pack like real thoroughbreds.

 

[Plankton]

I do not even know who he is, never heard of him and I can name a couple that is better than him, for example Rosen, Kizer, there is some more

Josh Rosen will be a true sophomore next year - he won't be draft eligible in 2017. DeShone Kizer may not start next year - he'll have to beat out Malik Zaire in the summer, and at best, he will be in a time share next year. Kizer will be draft eligible, but I don't think he would come out.

Kaaya should take a big step forward this upcoming season with an offensive coach like Mark Richt taking over at Miami.

 

[BHendri5]

Josh Rosen will be a true sophomore next year - he won't be draft eligible in 2017. DeShone Kizer may not start next year - he'll have to beat out Malik Zaire in the summer, and at best, he will be in a time share next year. Kizer will be draft eligible, but I don't think he would come out.

Kaaya should take a big step forward this upcoming season with an offensive coach like Mark Richt taking over at Miami.

I am a big Notre Dame fan, my passion for them is the same as the Cowboys 50yrs of watching both teams. I will tell you this right now, Kizer is a better QB than Malik, Kelly will move Malik to WR. Kizer has that IT. I do not expect him to come out in 2017, I was talking 2018, Romo will play in 2018 as our starter. Rosen will be ready then as well. Kaaya I've watched the hurricanes and he is just not smart with the ball.

 

[BHendri5]

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Jeup, RB is a top Offensive need. Odds are by the Draft, Dallas will have signed a veteran QB. Not saying that it is impossible to sign a Vet. (KaperPick, RGKNee, Johnny No U) AND Draft a 1st round QB, JUST NOT LIKELY.

Can't take Zeke at #4 thru #8 when he's rated around mid-pick in the 1st, #15-25, unless they are 100% sure he will be a Day 1 starter. Dallas brought in WRs before the 2015 Draft including Green-Beckham but there were far more RBs in for a Pre-Draft visit, including TJ Weldon, Gurley, Gordon, Ajayi and T. Coleman.

Meanwhile there are a couple of prospects defensively that rank as top 5s', whom jump outta the pack like real thoroughbreds.

there is the problem, everyone is going off of the " it is not good to take the RB at this spot mantra" the scouts and coaches know what their teams need or they should, and we know that RB is one of our top needs go get that fast because if you wait, get cute and trade down someone will gethim and then we will go another season with Mcfadden , Turbin and whoever we can sign off and on all season. Yes we need SS help and CB help, but our team is not missing as much as people keep thinking, what we are missing more is a RT as a starter and depth, good depth the kind that the starter is subject to be different the next game if the starter does not practice well

 

[BigD5]

Ezekiel Elliot needs to be our first pick, there is no QB in this draft that is a must. We are not in dire need of drafting a QB this draft, we can hold off till the year's draft, I am willing to bet there will be better QB's coming out then.
this draft has a lot of Defensive players that will go off the board fast and quickly. we need another superstar RB and Elliot is that guy.

Ezekiel Eliot is a locker room cancer. I can't believe people want to draft that guy. He's ok but he's not good enough to want in the top 5 or to overcome his poor character. Did nobody see him completely trash his coaches and team to the media because he didn't get as many carries as he thought he should?

 

[NeonNinja]

Trust me there will be some QB's 2017 draft, if not 2018

I guarantee there will be QB's in those years. But you can't guarantee they will be better than Goff or Lynch. Name some for fun.

 

[coach steele]

I love Elliot's skills. Would love to draft him if we traded back to 12. However, there are a lot of needs. If our scouts deem one of the QB's future franchise QB's, you snap him up. The position is just that valuable. If the scouts do not see a potential franchise QB, you go best player available.

 

[BHendri5]

I guarantee there will be QB's in those years. But you can't guarantee they will be better than Goff or Lynch. Name some for fun.

Lynch is not good.
Kizer, Rosen, Howard, There will be some more trust me.

 

[BHendri5]

Ezekiel Eliot is a locker room cancer. I can't believe people want to draft that guy. He's ok but he's not good enough to want in the top 5 or to overcome his poor character. Did nobody see him completely trash his coaches and team to the media because he didn't get as many carries as he thought he should?

He is not a locker room cancer, stop lying. His head coach was upset that they did not run the ball, he got 5 carries that game. Everyone on the planet knows that when Ohis St. gives Elliot the ball they win, the run game is how they get their offense going. He was not the only person that was upset about the loss and that loss knocked them out of the playoffs, I would be upset and called out the play caller myself, in fact I did.

 

[NeonNinja]

Lynch is not good.
Kizer, Rosen, Howard, There will be some more trust me.

Sorry, I can't do that.

 

[BHendri5]

Sorry, I can't do that.

too bad, your loss

 

[BigD5]

He is not a locker room cancer, stop lying. His head coach was upset that they did not run the ball, he got 5 carries that game. Everyone on the planet knows that when Ohis St. gives Elliot the ball they win, the run game is how they get their offense going. He was not the only person that was upset about the loss and that loss knocked them out of the playoffs, I would be upset and called out the play caller myself, in fact I did.

But you are not on the team or officially affiliated with them in any way. Players and coaches don't throw teammates or their coaches under the bus. Regardless of the situation. Only T.O types do that sort of thing.

That's a huge red flag to me

 

[AzorAhai]

Lynch is not good.
Kizer, Rosen, Howard, There will be some more trust me.

You keep saying this, but you've given absolutely zero legitimate reasons why. What exactly have you seen to support this? Maybe give something legitimate and people will actually take you seriously. As it stands now, you are just talking in generalities with things you have no possible way to know. Like questioning his intelligence.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Looking at the numbers, it looks like RB just isn't a prized position anymore. I was shocked to see McFadden was #4 in the league in rushing yards and that his YPC total is in the same range as the other yard leaders. And if he would've started since Week 1, he could've possibly led the league in rushing. That means McFadden's season was in par with guys like Peterson (this year's rushing champion), Martin (the likely Comeback Player of the year) and Gurley (the best RB prospect in years). That tells me that either McFadden is that good or that RBs just aren't that special anymore.

Only 7 RBs in the league had over 1000 yards. Only 2 had over 1200 yards. None had over 1500. On the other hand, 12 QBs had over 4000 passing yards. 5 had over 4500. Receiving numbers for WRs and TEs are also at an all-time high. RBs just aren't making an impact anymore. That doesn't mean RB isn't an important position. We saw how well our team played last year when we emphasized our running game. But we were also one of the best running teams in the league this year and would've been closer to what we were last year if we made a commitment to a RB earlier in the season.

And our offense was still pathetic. So what does that tell you? 1) It doesn't matter who we had back there at RB, our offense was still gonna be miserable after Romo went down. 2) We still had a very strong running game despite losing Murray. I do think we need to draft a RB. But I don't think any RB is worth a 1st round pick. Not even Gurley. Maybe not even Peterson in this new era of the NFL. RBs don't win games.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Yeah, maybe not top 4 but pick up a extra first get a top 10-15 and get him. If we win tomorrow and pick at 8 I think he could be the pick there. Yeah there really ain't no QB I rather go to Freeagency or look at other teams with players available for trade.

You would need a trading partner willing to sell the ranch to go up to 4 which is rare but could happen.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Only 7 RBs in the league had over 1000 yards. Only 2 had over 1200 yards. None had over 1500.

Most teams use a RBBC even if it's just a committee of two.

NE, Den, Cin, Pit, KC and Houston in the AFC. GB, Min, Wash, Sea, Arz, Car in the NFC. Any of those use a bell cow for 16 games this year? All I can think of is AP.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Pick 4 is way too expensive to be drafting Zeke at............I am pretty sure the Titans are taking Tunsil, so that leaves Goeff, Lynch, and Bosa all left on the board..........we are guaranteed to get one of them so just stay put at 4 and don't get cute here.

And the only way I bail out of number 4 is if I get somebody's first round pick next year thrown in for a trade.

 

[big dog cowboy]

And the only way I bail out of number 4 is if I get somebody's first round pick next year thrown in for a trade.

Someone mentioned they looked at the trade value chart and suggested we could trade down to 10 and pick up that teams 2nd this year. That would give us 10, 34 and 41 this year? Deal or no deal? I don't know...but that seems pretty good to me.