Reality with Daks contract

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You can think what ya want, but the Cowboys would NEVER NEVER NEVER do that after going 12-5.

NEVER.

You know it and I know it.

Well maybe maybe not. We had Romo, he was injury prone and getting a lder. Same draft Jerry wanted Paxton Lynch. He almost traded back to the first round to take him. So not in the teens but similar idea. But to my point if he did, it would have been Lynch....yuck.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Smith last season in KC they were 9-6. Frankly I don't know that Dallas would not have looked to get a QB seeing the age and injury history that Alex Smith had.

Actually Dallas did try. Not trying to trade up into the teens but same draft cowboys wanted Paxton Lynch really bad and Jerry almost traded back into the first round to get lynch

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Jerry is invested in Dak for the near future. the fact the team is hovering around 8-10 wins a season will guarantee no top 3-4 picks to go get an elite QB.
This is the problem with Dak's latest contract , it will keep the cowboys mediocre for 4-6 years. many fans are not ok with a wild card win every few years or so , and having a nice guy like Dak as the QB. It won't work folks. This franchise needs an elite QB who can make a difference , even demand certain trades form Jerry ,in order to make will the team to win another SB. Dak is not that QB.

What does Daks contract have to do with keeping cowboys medicare? We have cap space this year. Had it last two years too.

This is not about Dak talent or skills but contract as you said it's the reason we are medicore.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If I was a Browns fan I would be encouraged seeing my organization actively trying to get better.

That's the whole point to me. At least they are making an effort.

Trying is not enough. Every team tries in different ways. There are also a lot of teams failing at it. It's easy to point to Rams but there are more that failed.

There is risk. There is more than one way to get better.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Trying is not enough. Every team tries in different ways. There are also a lot of teams failing at it. It's easy to point to Rams but there are more that failed.

There is risk. There is more than one way to get better.

Okay and every single team but 1 (Lions) have won more playoff games than us in the past 26 years.

So even if others are trying and failing they're still doing it better than Jerry's way.

 

[starfan1]

Wait....did you just say our o line went into the toilet?
I suppose its okay when protecting dak....but zeke just sucks.....right?

You see you asked for whatever response you get. He may be a Zeke troll and likes dak more than you but you cant let sleeping dogs lie either.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Okay and every single team but 1 (Lions) have won more playoff games than us in the past 26 years.

So even if others are trying and failing they're still doing it better than Jerry's way.

Yes we are 3rd worse in past 26. Not just past 7. Which is the real issue... Dak maybe a symptom of what is wrong with this team. Not the reason. I have zero faith that if Brady or Stafford came here that the results would be a Superbowl or anything close to it.

Fact is that teams have won or got to Superbowl with not elite QBs. It's not a unique proposition. Grossman, Wentz/foles, flacco, hasselback, kaepernick, newton, delhomme, Eli manning, McNabb etc..... And.many teams with great QBs who never made it like Detroit, SD, etc. The organization matters...

I have zero faith in Jerry. That's why I am very uninterested in this upcoming season

 

[DCwarrior]

For some reason there are many Cowboys fans who don’t see the success Dak is having.

He’s winning divisions and propping up an otherwise bottom dwelling franchise into some relevance and interest.

Yippee!

 

[CowboyRoy]

I didn't see much of a difference in the two halves. Just less crap teams in the second half.

This wasn't unique to 2021. We've had the same pattern of slow starts or no starts since 2019. The only major difference was our defense. You put that 2019 defense on our team last year, and not get all the turnovers, we go 8-9 or 9-8.

No Major difference? Wow

that might the most naive post I’ve ever read of yours.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Here's a common misperception.....

If we were paying Prescott 30m instead of 40 that we would sign a 10m free agent that would make all the difference.

No we would not. They would end up overpaying another draftee or two, or pocketing the delta. Doesn't matter what he makes up against being in a spot that MANY other teams are in.

They blew those negotiations with their mouths, and now want to justify the contract by making him something he isnt.

They hated Dak for 4 years at 2million. These clown hate Dak because they are romo cry babies and Dak has made them look dumb by outplaying their original prognostication.

 

[Swagger]

What they did the following season has nothing at all to do with them going 12-5, trading up, and drafting Mahomes.

It doesn't even matter if it's Alex Smith or not. It's the fact that you're willing to actually try to get better and take chances.

The Rams did it last year with Goff. The Browns did it with Baker. Those 2 guys are youngsters like Dak.

You have to try at least. You have to know when a guys not cutting it and be willing to move on and stop wasting time on him.

Exactly. It makes me laugh when people always focus on the negatives. I said on the old forum that we should have traded Prescott after his rookie season as his stock would never be higher and he wasn't the guy as he was being overrated due to the once in a generation offensive line that season. We probably could have got something stupid like 3 firsts for him and could have effectively ended up with a QB like Mahomes or Allen and if so, had a great shot at winning the Superbowl last season with a proper QB not a progress stopper like Prescott. Or as many suggested at the time, give the Chargers Prescott and most likely the second rounder (we don't get Diggs but he's overrated in my view and would rather have Herbert on a rookie contract that being stuck with Tebow at QB).

There have been ways out but they weren't taken and now guys like Parsons will be knee-capped by the progress stopper, Dak Prescott.

 

[Swagger]

How come no one notes that with Baker Mayfield? Baker sucks, right? He played with an injury all season. Not some phantom calf injury either. I don't want to hear about dak's injury, don't play. No excuses. Dallas didn't seem to have trouble against the weaker teams in the second half, did they? No, after we got wiped out by the Broncos, we slaughtered the Falcons, Football Team, Giants, and Eagles. This first half second half is only in the mind of homers.

Great post. Bottom line is stop crying, shut up and don't play if you can't hack it. Or play and accept criticism for playing like a competition winner from the crowd.

 

[Ken]

He got top 2 money.

At the time...now like 6 or 7.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

How come no one notes that with Baker Mayfield? Baker sucks, right? He played with an injury all season. Not some phantom calf injury either. I don't want to hear about dak's injury, don't play. No excuses. Dallas didn't seem to have trouble against the weaker teams in the second half, did they? No, after we got wiped out by the Broncos, we slaughtered the Falcons, Football Team, Giants, and Eagles. This first half second half is only in the mind of homers.

For real...

If Dak was so hurt why was he out there against the Eagles practice squad throwing 5 TDs to break a record? Zeke too for that matter. He was also out there for the sole purpose of getting to 1,000 yards rushing.

 

[Diehardblues]

How come no one notes that with Baker Mayfield? Baker sucks, right? He played with an injury all season. Not some phantom calf injury either. I don't want to hear about dak's injury, don't play. No excuses. Dallas didn't seem to have trouble against the weaker teams in the second half, did they? No, after we got wiped out by the Broncos, we slaughtered the Falcons, Football Team, Giants, and Eagles. This first half second half is only in the mind of homers.

I never said Baker suks. Honestly I don’t follow Browns enough to make a sound analysis. Year before they were a playoff team appeared headed in a better direction. Not sure what happened

But if you didn’t notice or take into account the effects we had on our offense after we basically lost our running game with Elliotts injury and then Pollards along with our OL issues and then Daks calf injury . Those aren’t excuses . Those are contributing factors.

 

[Flamma]

I never said Baker suks. Honestly I don’t follow Browns enough to make a sound analysis. Year before they were a playoff team appeared headed in a better direction. Not sure what happened

But if you didn’t notice or take into account the effects we had on our offense after we basically lost our running game with Elliotts injury and then Pollards along with our OL issues and then Daks calf injury . Those aren’t excuses . Those are contributing factors.

They're all excuses. Where is the evidence of this? The Cowboys beat the trash teams in the first and second half of the season. How is it that injuries and OL issues stopped us against Denver, but then we go on to beat Atlanta 43-3? Then the injuries and OL issues show up again the following week against the Chiefs? Then the injuries are a non factor when we again play our division?

What was so great about the first half of the season? That we beat the Chargers, Panthers, Giants, Eagles, Vikings and Patriots? What was so impressive? We EEKED out 3 of them. Nothing impressive about it. We stomped the bums, and won nail biters against the other 3, two of which weren't even playoff teams. In the 2nd half we did the same thing, just didn't get lucky against the better teams.

 

[Diehardblues]

They're all excuses. Where is the evidence of this? The Cowboys beat the trash teams in the first and second half of the season. How is it that injuries and OL issues stopped us against Denver, but then we go on to beat Atlanta 43-3? Then the injuries and OL issues show up again the following week against the Chiefs? Then the injuries are a non factor when we again play our division?

What was so great about the first half of the season? That we beat the Chargers, Panthers, Giants, Eagles, Vikings and Patriots? What was so impressive? We EEKED out 3 of them. Nothing impressive about it. We stomped the bums, and won nail biters against the other 3, two of which weren't even playoff teams. In the 2nd half we did the same thing, just didn't get lucky against the better teams.

You’re telling me you didn’t notice a difference in our offense and QB performance and production after these factors occurred?

 

[Flamma]

You’re telling me you didn’t notice a difference in our offense and QB performance and production after these factors occurred?

Oh I noticed the QB performance part, I'm just not buying the injury part. I think it was just tougher competition. I don't put all the blame on him either.

Zeke, yes, I think it was obvious he was injured.

 

[Diehardblues]

Oh I noticed the QB performance part, I'm just not buying the injury part. I think it was just tougher competition. I don't put all the blame on him either.

Zeke, yes, I think it was obvious he was injured.

So you think Daks calf injury was fake?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Actually Dallas did try. Not trying to trade up into the teens but same draft cowboys wanted Paxton Lynch really bad and Jerry almost traded back into the first round to get lynch

Ya know,

Paxton Lynch might have turned out just fine on the Cowboys team.

Getting to start your career with three 1st team all-pro linemen, 1st team all pro RB, a HOF TE, and a Pro Bowl WR .... I mean, can you name any rookie QB in the history of the NFL that got THAT much help from jump street? And I'm dead serious too. I can't think of a single rookie QB that's ever started their career with that much talent around them.