RECAP: Czarkecki on GAC *Merge*

[khiladi]

There was zero racial element to Brian Stewart's scrutiny. Anyone with eyes could see it. He sucked ***. My skin is a nice color mocha brown by the way.

You're so right. The media will spin whatever it can to sell sell sell... and some eat that **** up like hot buttered popcorn.

Your right... The point of Marshall Faulk is there is a racial element in the lack of Garrett scrutiny... Garrett was doing just as crappy a job as Stewart, but the media wasn't talking about Garrett...

It only happened at the end of the year, when grumblings against Garrett became more pronounced, from people besides TO. Before that, TO was at it again. Even then, when TO was grumbling, it had nothing to do with race. Even before the interview the Deion, he was making statements about how this offense was figured out. He alluded to how he is most successful when put in motion. Every comment he made was in regards to scheming.

The crap hit the fan for Garrett, when Tony Romo finally came out and took shots at him.

Since that happened, the media had to back-track and still find a way to slam TO, because they had invested so much in their story regarding him. So they shifted to TO being such a strong personality that he even influences people against Garrett. But anyone with an ounce of common sense realizes that something is wrong with Garrett, when even the future number one receiver, who ran the same system in Detroit and frankly, in different words, said it was stupid to assume that he didn't know the offense, called Garrett out.

An interesting aspect is people tried to blame RW 'injury', but the whole season he never once complained about it. He did complain about his lack of involvement in the offense and their not trusting him. He also had plenty of spectacular catches in the beginning of his time to prove that he was ready. We often saw him, at the end of the year, yelling at the sidelines when he caught a pass, saying to throw it to him. It was like, if you brought me here to help you win a Superbowl, then throw it to me moments...

 

[5Countem5]

Czar isn't a hack, but I'd love to see something like this reported elsewhere to validate the claim.

You can blame T.O. for alot of things, but this is the first he's ever been accused of in all his stops.

To make this sort of insinuation without any evidence makes him not only a hack, but makes him one of the the biggest piece of crap hacks in the business.

This is over the line to print without proof but most are willing to give him a pass because he's ONLY talking about TO and anyone can say anythig about him without consequence.

 

[dbair1967]

To make this sort of insinuation without any evidence makes him not only a hack, but makes him one of the the biggest piece of crap hacks in the business.

This is over the line to print without proof but most are willing to give him a pass because he's ONLY talking about TO and anyone can say anythig about him without consequence.

That said, you dont know where he got that info from. He could easily have a source for it, just because he didnt announce it to the world doesnt mean he made the story up.

He has no track record of doing that, so its hard for me to believe he completely made it up. He isnt Ed Werder, Mike Florio or Fred Edelstein.

 

[5Countem5]

That said, you dont know where he got that info from. He could easily have a source for it, just because he didnt announce it to the world doesnt mean he made the story up.

He has no track record of doing that, so its hard for me to believe he completely made it up. He isnt Ed Werder, Mike Florio or Fred Edelstein.

So why doesn't he simply say A SOURCE said this or that. I wouldn't believe it for a minute either, but if a source gave it to him- why didn't he say so?

I guess I'm just one of those high-character people who would produce evidence before I accused someone of torpedoing someone's head coaching career by passing a rumor that he was racist.

 

[dbair1967]

They seem to be conjuring this up to fit the "Cut T.O." agenda, IMO.

The story Czarnecki posted actually has nothing to do with how I feel about cutting TO at this point. I decided that for myself soon after the season ended. We need to shake things up here. You also have to factor in his age and the probability that he can be a quality player past this season, or even for this upcoming season.

It's my belief that with him out of the equation on offense, the overall success will improve because they will be forced to spread the ball around, which I think Romo would benefit from. I also believe that Miles Austin can be far more than just a role player here, and with TO gone Austin will get alot more PT. Finally, I doubt he is going to take it well if his chances are curtailed even further because the team chooses to run the ball more.

 

[WoodysGirl]

From JFE

I did see this and, wow, just wow. I guess, technically, if TO believes that Garrett favors Romo and Witten then it does break down along color lines. But as much as I do not like TO on this team, I just can not see him spreading this. Nor do I see JG as this racist guy, at all. Anybody who lets race play a role in sports nowadays is an idiot and Garrett is a lot of things but he is not dumb.
All the best,
Jen
FWST

 

[5Countem5]

Hack journalists still use the race card in sports...

 

[Shake_Tiller]

So why doesn't he simply say A SOURCE said this or that. I wouldn't believe it for a minute either, but if a source gave it to him- why didn't he say so?

I guess I'm just one of those high-character people who would produce evidence before I accused someone of torpedoing someone's head coaching career by passing a rumor that he was racist.

I have some sympathy with your position here. That's an explosive charge. Having said that, Owens called Werder a liar on national television. Now how would Owens possibly know whether Werder was lying? Seriously. He might guess that to be the case, but he can't know. To accuse a journalist of being a liar is extremely serious. In fact, it is borderline slanderous.

 

[5Countem5]

The story Czarnecki posted actually has nothing to do with how I feel about cutting TO at this point. I decided that for myself soon after the season ended. We need to shake things up here. You also have to factor in his age and the probability that he can be a quality player past this season, or even for this upcoming season.

It's my belief that with him out of the equation on offense, the overall success will improve because they will be forced to spread the ball around, which I think Romo would benefit from. I also believe that Miles Austin can be far more than just a role player here, and with TO gone Austin will get alot more PT. Finally, I doubt he is going to take it well if his chances are curtailed even further because the team chooses to run the ball more.

The gnats have really excelled with their number one gone, huh?

 

[dbair1967]

The gnats have really excelled with their number one gone, huh?

And whats that have to do with our situation? Absolutely nothing.

 

[5Countem5]

I have some sympathy with your position here. That's an explosive charge. Having said that, Owens called Werder a liar on national television. Now how would Owens possibly know whether Werder was lying? Seriously. He might guess that to be the case, but he can't know. To accuse a journalist of being a liar is extremely serious. In fact, it is borderline slanderous.

He called him a liar because he knew was part of the story and knew what happened.

Slanderous? I guess we'll see what shakes out because I doubt Werder sues, not because he likes TO but because he knows he was lying...

 

[5Countem5]

And whats that have to do with our situation? Absolutely nothing.

No it has nothing to do with our situation because TO is staying.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

He called him a liar because he knew was part of the story and knew what happened.

Slanderous? I guess we'll see what shakes out because I doubt Werder sues, not because he likes TO but because he knows he was lying...

No, because they are both public figures, so a lawsuit would be a waste of time. But the fact remains, Owens cannot know Werder was lying. It isn't possible.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

No it has nothing to do with our situation because TO is staying.

Obviously, I think Owens should be gone. Two weeks ago, I would have agreed with you, though, that it wasn't going to happen. Now I think Owens will be gone. But only one man knows for sure, and he owns the Cowboys.

 

[links18]

Your right... The point of Marshall Faulk is there is a racial element in the lack of Garrett scrutiny... Garrett was doing just as crappy a job as Stewart, but the media wasn't talking about Garrett...

It only happened at the end of the year, when grumblings against Garrett became more pronounced, from people besides TO. Before that, TO was at it again. Even then, when TO was grumbling, it had nothing to do with race. Even before the interview the Deion, he was making statements about how this offense was figured out. He alluded to how he is most successful when put in motion. Every comment he made was in regards to scheming.

The crap hit the fan for Garrett, when Tony Romo finally came out and took shots at him.

Since that happened, the media had to back-track and still find a way to slam TO, because they had invested so much in their story regarding him. So they shifted to TO being such a strong personality that he even influences people against Garrett. But anyone with an ounce of common sense realizes that something is wrong with Garrett, when even the future number one receiver, who ran the same system in Detroit and frankly, in different words, said it was stupid to assume that he didn't know the offense, called Garrett out.

An interesting aspect is people tried to blame RW 'injury', but the whole season he never once complained about it. He did complain about his lack of involvement in the offense and their not trusting him. He also had plenty of spectacular catches in the beginning of his time to prove that he was ready. We often saw him, at the end of the year, yelling at the sidelines when he caught a pass, saying to throw it to him. It was like, if you brought me here to help you win a Superbowl, then throw it to me moments...

I think there was also a lot of consensus late in the year that RW11 was off the reservation with his routes. Aikman even called him out in the last Philly game......

 

[dbair1967]

No it has nothing to do with our situation because TO is staying.

I guess we'll see...this might drag out for quite some time, isnt that 3+ mil roster bonus due in June? If thats the case it may be till at least then before we know.

Personally I think he'll be gone before the draft, but we'll see.

 

[5Countem5]

But the fact remains, Owens cannot know Werder was lying. It isn't possible.

If the crap that Werder reported on , that involved TO, he dang sure knows if it happened or not.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

If the crap that Werder reported on , that involved TO, he dang sure knows if it happened or not.

But he doesn't know what Werder's sources were telling him. Aside from all that, Werder's reports have either been verified, at this point, or look very likely to be accurate.

 

[5Countem5]

I guess we'll see...this might drag out for quite some time, isnt that 3+ mil roster bonus due in June? If thats the case it may be till at least then before we know.

Personally I think he'll be gone before the draft, but we'll see.

Nope, if he was going...we'd at least know by now. Jerry loves TO and will give him every chance to catch on somewhere else. He also knows if he cuts him, it will be harder to catch on so time would be of the essence. If Jerry lets him go it will be because he was talked into it, not for a need. Jerry will give TO EVERY chance to be successful.

Remember how everyone says Jerry is TOO loyal? Why would that change now?

 

[5Countem5]

But he doesn't know what Werder's sources were telling him. Aside from all that, Werder's reports have either been verified, at this point, or look very likely to be accurate.

Verified by what, the crux of the story was proven wrong and it's easy to see he was just guessing and throwing crap against the wall.