RECAP: Mickey's Ranch Report on Dunham and Miller

[Stash]

Rorschach's Journal, Feburary 11, 2009:

I just found out we might or might not release Terrell Owens. Must remember to investigate further.

Stasheroo's a good guy, told me how to spell Terrell.

Also, I ate a cat today.

Thanks Rorschach!

Glad I could help!

Keep up the good work!

(but you missed February!)

 

[Rampage]

were they or were they not a 1-15 last yr? They were BAD, hence it was easier for middle of the road to below average guys from other teams go there and start.



he tore his biceps here the yr before remember? he did nothing for us his last yr here...he didnt do much for them either...if our NT had produced all of 22 tackles and no sacks in 16 games, there'd be a CZ meltdown trying to replace him



I certainly count it...they were losers...

they were 11-5 last year. football season ended dude

 

[dbair1967]

I guess I give Sparano more credit than you do.

And I'm not so sure that Garrett 'redid the passing game' either. I still see the Cowboys running some of the same things they've run in the past (other than any creative plays).

I don't think that an offense's passing game is totally removed from its' running game, and vice versa.

I guess even though it was widely reported that he totally redid the passing game, and even said so his self means nothing huh?

 

[dbair1967]

they were 11-5 last year. football season ended dude

You know what I meant. They were 1-15 in 2007, an awful team with tons of holes.

Our scraps were upgrades for them. Those guys had no real role here.

 

[dbair1967]

Not if the run defense dramatically improved as a result.

A true nose tackle isn't about stats but occupying blockers.

Ratliff had a fine season but I don't see him as a true nose tackle.

I also think he'd be even better at 3-4 DE.

My hope is that they don't pay Canty's overpriced demands and move Ratliff to end and get a true nose tackle for this defense like the better versions have.

I dont think they'll pay Canty, he'll end up getting big bucks from another 3-4 team IMO.

The problem with moving Ratliff to DE is you better get a NT thats at least as good as he was to replace him. Not sure there are any of those out there, thus it might be easier to replace Canty with another DE (Hatcher, Bowen, draft pick, reasonable free agent) and leave Ratlif where he is.

 

[Stash]

I guess even though it was widely reported that he totally redid the passing game, and even said so his self means nothing huh?

Not saying you're lying.

Just saying I never saw where he did that. If you could show me a story on it, I'd appreciate reading it.

But I still contend that the Garrett/Sparano offense was better than the Garrett offense.

I think the good defensive coordinators figured Garrett out and he didn't have an answer.

 

[Stash]

I dont think they'll pay Canty, he'll end up getting big bucks from another 3-4 team IMO.

Agreed.

The problem with moving Ratliff to DE is you better get a NT thats at least as good as he was to replace him. Not sure there are any of those out there, thus it might be easier to replace Canty with another DE (Hatcher, Bowen, draft pick, reasonable free agent) and leave Ratlif where he is.

Definitely a bit of a risk, and one that may take time to accomplish.

I'm hopeful they draft a big nose tackle in the draft, but I've been hoping for several seasons without success.

The team doesn't seem to put the same priority on it that this 'keyboard GM' does...

 

[dbair1967]

Not saying you're lying.

Just saying I never saw where he did that. If you could show me a story on it, I'd appreciate reading it.

The tearing up the passing game has been posted here before, and its also been posted/re-hashed in numerous threads where people have bashed Garrett. It's 100% true. It was in both Dallas papers after Garrett took over and they got into the offseason. it was also widely discussed during TC and preseason that yr.

But I still contend that the Garrett/Sparano offense was better than the Garrett offense.

Garrett/Sparano offense was healthier too wasnt it? I'm sure that had nothing to do with it though

I think the good defensive coordinators figured Garrett out and he didn't have an answer.

I dont think anybody had problems figuring out what we were doing in 2007 either, the difference is the team was healthier and had a better forcus for most of the yr. You could see they practiced pretty well. That clearly wasnt the case with last yrs team.

 

[Hoofbite]

d, you are struggling with that quote feature right now.

 

[Stash]

The tearing up the passing game has been posted here before, and its also been posted/re-hashed in numerous threads where people have bashed Garrett. It's 100% true. It was in both Dallas papers after Garrett took over and they got into the offseason. it was also widely discussed during TC and preseason that yr.

I guess I'll have to take your word for it because I've never seen that.

Garrett/Sparano offense was healthier too wasnt it? I'm sure that had nothing to do with it though

I dont think anybody had problems figuring out what we were doing in 2007 either, the difference is the team was healthier and had a better forcus for most of the yr. You could see they practiced pretty well. That clearly wasnt the case with last yrs team.

Sorry, I don't buy 'health' as an excuse.

The fact is that the 2008 offense had more talent than the 2007 version and still couldn't get it done.

And the 'injuries' only seem to be a factor when a good defense shut them down.

Just my opinion.

 

[RoadRunner]

I am listening to norm talk about this right now.

The callers all have a certain thing in common.

and let me say, this city and this team has a racial issue.

Romo might never get back fans in this market because of what has transpired.

everyday the stations are like this.

Are you suggesting black vs latino racial problems? Tony is latino.

 

[Rampage]

Are you suggesting black vs latino racial problems? Tony is latino.

no he's suggesting Black vs White. Tony is also white and hangs out with mostly white guys. Tony is the whitest latino ever.

 

[TNCowboy]

no he's suggesting Black vs White. Tony is also white and hangs out with mostly white guys. Tony is the whitest latino ever.

:laugh2:

 

[theebs]

Are you suggesting black vs latino racial problems? Tony is latino.

He is half mexican.

And yes there is a definite racial overtone to this. And I dont see it going away anytime soon.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I thought (in no particular order):

1) Garrett tried to force the passing game and wasn't patient with the run

2) Owens' performance significantly deteriorated

3) Barber was less effective, particularly after his injury

4) The offensive line played very poorly at times and never found a way to recover from Kosier's injury (which is pretty damning)

5) The circus was in town from Hard Knocks to the Hard Knockout versus Philadelphia

6) Romo, in addition to missing three games, was beaten up and less effective when he returned

7) Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger were shockingly ineffective

8) The big-play potential was slashed after Felix Jones' injury.

It seems to me that every one of us are speculating as to whether player performance, coaching or injuries played the largest role in the relatively disappointing offensive showing. Surely it was some combination of all of those factors.

 

[TNCowboy]

3) Barber was less effective, particularly after his injury

A lot of people don't want to admit it, but Barber was ineffective prior to his injury.

Jones and Choice were better. Much better.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

A lot of people don't want to admit it, but Barber was ineffective prior to his injury.

Jones and Choice were better. Much better.

Yeah. I chose the word "particularly" for that reason. Barber was rarely the force in 2008 he had been the prior year, whatever the cause.

 

[Vintage]

He is half mexican.

And yes there is a definite racial overtone to this. And I dont see it going away anytime soon.

Based on radio?

Do they ask callers for their ethnicity?

I freely admit I do not know what's going on in regards to the Dallas radio market. You follow it; certainly more than me, so please elaborate... if you wish.

I'd be curious if this follows the message board.

 

[TNCowboy]

Based on radio?

Do they ask callers for their ethnicity?

I freely admit I do not know what's going on in regards to the Dallas radio market. You follow it; certainly more than me, so please elaborate... if you wish.

I'd be curious if this follows the message board.

I assumed he was talking about the players, not radio.

 

[dbair1967]

Sorry, I don't buy 'health' as an excuse.

The fact is that the 2008 offense had more talent than the 2007 version and still couldn't get it done.

And the 'injuries' only seem to be a factor when a good defense shut them down.

Just my opinion.

You dont have to buy it if you dont want to, but it was a major factor...Romo was never right after the Cardinals game, thats a majority of the season. Adams wasnt right all yr, Kosier hardly played, we traded for RW and he was never close to 100%, Witten played through some major injuries all season. Felix Jones played a quarter of the season. Barber got hurt in late November and was never the same again.

It isnt an excuse, its a fact.