RECAP: Mickey's Ranch Report on Dunham and Miller

[khiladi]

The idea that Spencer is a bust based upon 1.5 sacks is about as pathetic an analysis as it gets. First of all, he was injured a lot of the season. Second, he was taken out on obvious passing downs when he made his way into the line-up to keep Greg Ellis in on passing situations. The running game improved with the addition of Spencer overall, though he made some mistakes here and there.

The idea that Spencer can't get in the field is akin to Carpenter getting on the field is BS. When Spencer was on the field in year 1, he played well and in fact, the end of the year in the play-offs, he was much better than Greg Ellis, who disappeared. This year, he got injured in training camp and as soon as he got healthy on the field, he busted his leg on special teams.

 

[CATCH17]

Mickey just buys into the evil media hype. There have been no official declarations after all from anyone on the team that they are even actually considering this. All the innuendos are hollow. Fans are distracted but the players know who plays the Pied Piper tunes.[/sarcasm off]

When Mickey reports I listen.

When he gives opinions I dont really care.

 

[khiladi]

Looking back on it, DeSean Jackson would have made more sense than Bennett did.

The Cowboys could have traded up for Jackson when he started to slide if they wanted to and I think he would have added just the dimension this offense could use, to say nothing of the return game.

Harvin will go too high for Dallas' needs I think.

Jackson was there for the taking and they didn't bite.

It doesn't matter in the sense that Garrett had plenty of oppurtunity to take advantage of Bennett in games like Philly and the Steelers, two blitz-happy teams. But Garrett was so freakin' simple, all he did was have them pretty much run out of two tight-end sets, keeping Bennett in as an additional blocker.

Garrett doesn't have an ability to use any of his talent to it's capabilities. Jackson would have been like Crayton was this year. I don't care how slow Crayton is, he was facing LBs when RW came in and Garrett didn't target him.
He would have done the same thing with Jackson. Hell, I don't think Jackson would have sniffed the field this year.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

not to mention the quick guys open things up for the others all over the field as well, especially a guy with Jackson's speed.

and just imagine if they are the 2nd option...

 

[DWhite Fan]

TO here, TO gone, I personally could care less. Kicking TO to the curb will elimate one of several problems, but also create new ones.

I still say the real issue with this team is the lack of discipline and lack of a real head coach.

Let's say TO is cut loose this offseason, does that fix the discipline problem? I doubt it. None of these players has any respect for Wade and they NEVER will. Why should they when they know they can go right over his head to Jerry and get their way.

One poster said that the law should be laid down to TO, but who can really do that? Jerry? Jones can't afford the monetary hit that cutting TO would bring and Owens knows it, so that ain't happning. Wade? TO would probably laugh in his face. And why not? Even Romo knows that he can ignore Wade whenever he feels like it.

IF Jerry does release TO (which I don't see happening), Wade should follow Owens out the door. Then, Jones needs to fire that goofball GM that is directly responsible for this mess.
:starspin

 

[Stash]

It doesn't matter in the sense that Garrett had plenty of oppurtunity to take advantage of Bennett in games like Philly and the Steelers, two blitz-happy teams. But Garrett was so freakin' simple, all he did was have them pretty much run out of two tight-end sets, keeping Bennett in as an additional blocker.

Garrett doesn't have an ability to use any of his talent to it's capabilities. Jackson would have been like Crayton was this year. I don't care how slow Crayton is, he was facing LBs when RW came in and Garrett didn't target him.
He would have done the same thing with Jackson. Hell, I don't think Jackson would have sniffed the field this year.

You're probably right. He probably would have been limited to returns.

Much like they couldn't 'trust' Choice.

Right up until the guy came in and played great.

 

[cowboyed]

I really cant imagine them losing austin. I think they will do everything they can to keep him.

If we lose him, it says all we need to know about this current setup.

release matt moore. They had all intentions of resigning him to the practice
squad and he got nipped by the Panthers. Crap happens.

Trade ferguson for no reason, he was a locker room leader. Aging veteran coming off a serious torn muscle injury looking for another contract at higher dollars. And exactly how much of a force has he been for the Dolphins this past season?

Trade two starters for nothing in fasano and akin. Fasano at the time of the trade hadn't made the most of his opportunities here and Ayodele proved to be barely adequate in Wade's 3-4. Although Miami did well getting 2 players with Fasano in particularly panning out, that 4th round Miami pick led us to acquiring Tashard Choice and Orlando Scandrick.

Sign pacman low risk & low dollar, netted us another 5th place or 6th place draft pick, and tank johnson not a mega or long term contract,was serviceable but not outstanding.

Trade 3 picks for spencer. We gave up the 2nd round pick we netted from Cleveland (36th), our own 3d rounder (88th), and our 5th rounder (159th) for a highly regarded late first round draft prospect who had an outstanding senior year with Purdue. Some can argue it was a bit of a reach, but it was not a preposterous acquisition and we needed a 3-4 college proven rusher. There wern't that many to be had at that point in the draft and that is why we bartered with the Eagles.

It would really signal something bad. We simply cant lose austin.

I am with you on keeping Austin but whose to say we aren't going to fight to keep him, particularly with 50/50 prospects of T.O. going or staying.

 

[Stash]

TO here, TO gone, I personally could care less. Kicking TO to the curb will elimate one of several problems, but also create new ones.

I still say the real issue with this team is the lack of discipline and lack of a real head coach.

Let's say TO is cut loose this offseason, does that fix the discipline problem? I doubt it. None of these players has any respect for Wade and they NEVER will. Why should they when they know they can go right over his head to Jerry and get their way.

Agree 100%. And cutting Owens doesn't change that one bit.

One poster said that the law should be laid down to TO, but who can really do that? Jerry? Jones can't afford the monetary hit that cutting TO would bring and Owens knows it, so that ain't happning. Wade? TO would probably laugh in his face. And why not? Even Romo knows that he can ignore Wade whenever he feels like it.

I think I said that. And I think it needs to happen. And if no one in this organization is capable, then there's your real problem.

I think Jones could certainly afford to cut Owens - at least financially. His ego might not be able to take it though.

 

[DWhite Fan]

Agree 100%. And cutting Owens doesn't change that one bit.



I think I said that. And I think it needs to happen. And if no one in this organization is capable, then there's your real problem.

I think Jones could certainly afford to cut Owens - at least financially. His ego might not be able to take it though.

Sorry about the repeat.

You are probably right that it is the hit on Jerry's ego that Jones couldn't afford

 

[Stash]

Sorry about the repeat.

You are probably right that it is the hit on Jerry's ego that Jones couldn't afford

Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.

I meant that I think I was the poster you were referring to about laying down the law.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

I don't get these coaches that cannot "trust" rookie players, or young ones. You have to actually give them a chance. It was not too long ago in 2006 that Carpenter had his best performance at OLB in place for Ellis, but that was in BP's 2 gap 3-4.

Wade for some reason wants guys who are proven before playing them, same with RedHead. Scandrick may very well be playing the nickel or starting depending on what we do with Henry. We need some young hungry guys who don't have the ego's that TO, Romo and Flo (underachievers this past year) have so we can actually send this offense in the right direction.

I would like to see TO stay, but I won't be butthurt if he goes. TO brings way too much on the field and works way too hard to be replaced by someone who seemingly doesn't work too hard (yet, hopefully Roy11 changes his ways). I don't think Garrett is here next offseason, because of the fact he will prove himself to be a decent offensive coach and he will take a job somewhere else. TO being cut this year would hurt us much more than next, because of the cap and the guys behind him. TO's talent still shows, I don't think one guy at WR on our team could have done what he did to SF this year. We need him, if for only one more year IMO.

We need to stockpile young guys, IMO, with the uncapped years coming, we need to start drafting and developing guys like what happened last year;

F. Jones- he will be the lightning to MB3's thunder
M. Jenkins- he will be starting at CB
Bennett-can become a faster clone of Witten, with a small amount of baggage.
Choice- may very well be starting on another team in 4 years.
Scandrick- may be starting opposite Jenkins in 3 or 4 years.

Ciskowski needs to become the GM of this team above all else, along with a HC change next offseason, I wouldn't be surprised to see us in the SB next year with some new coaches. But we need to continue to build this team.

 

[Rack]

but it seems that for whatever reason Cowboys have had problems developing WRs

Crayton developed nicely. He's not superstar, but I think he reached his max potential (or close to it) which is all you can hope for.


Miles Austin is coming along nicely as well.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Crayton developed nicely. He's not superstar, but I think he reached his max potential (or close to it) which is all you can hope for.


Miles Austin is coming along nicely as well.

Yep.

The main reason we haven't developed WRs is that we really haven't even tried. We haven't drafted one high in forever. I have a feeling that if we'd drafted a Dwayne Bowe or Eddie Royal, he'd have developed just fine.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Crayton developed nicely. He's not superstar, but I think he reached his max potential (or close to it) which is all you can hope for.


Miles Austin is coming along nicely as well.

Yep. Good insight. Crayton has developed probably as well as he would have with any orgainzation, and he is a very solid WR. Austin looks like he could be really good. It's no sure thing, but he's made a lot of progress.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Yep.

The main reason we haven't developed WRs is that we really haven't even tried. We haven't drafted one high in forever. I have a feeling that if we'd drafted a Dwayne Bowe or Eddie Royal, he'd have developed just fine.

One of us has to come up with an opener other than "Yep" or people or gonna think we're Sybil Frisco.

 

[wileedog]

Yep.

The main reason we haven't developed WRs is that we really haven't even tried. We haven't drafted one high in forever. I have a feeling that if we'd drafted a Dwayne Bowe or Eddie Royal, he'd have developed just fine.

Agreed, Bryant was the last one and he obviously had other issues besides the coaching.

If you don't draft any you can't develop them.

Although I will say Randall "All Camp" Williams got one of the better free rides in history...

 

[Idgit]

Yep.

The main reason we haven't developed WRs is that we really haven't even tried. We haven't drafted one high in forever. I have a feeling that if we'd drafted a Dwayne Bowe or Eddie Royal, he'd have developed just fine.

We haven't drafted them high for philosophical reasons. They have a high bust-rate, take time to develop, and are often available in FA anyway. OL, too, take a lot of time in a weight program and can be found in mid-rounds. We haven't played many of the OL we've been developed, but I'm not sure they're all busts.

 

[28 Joker]

It's my opinion, which some probably don't care for, but it's just my thoughts on the subject. This isn't just about Owens' "drama". It's about his decling play on the field.

When your franchise is worth about $ 1.5 billion dollars and you have other investments in key players, why are you going to let one declining player bring it down with his antics and erratic behavior. Owens' play is an issue. He doesn't deserve 140-150 passes in a season, and he still thinks the offense should revolve around him. He isn't going to all the sudden sit back and be a good "Little T". Owens isn't a team player. Look at what he did to the Eagles.

Roy Williams had plantar fascitis. Also, Williams hasn't had an offseason with the trainers or Tony Romo. Williams got number 1 money, and he's younger. If Williams and Austiin can serve as 2 number 2s in 2010, that will get it done.

I just don't understand why some people think the Cowboys should be worried about losing this selfish, declining player who can't get away from some of the better cornerbacks anymore and can't get off the quick, jam at this point in his career. If Owens can't beat the quick, jam, Tony Romo has to hold the ball longer, and that isn't a positive thing. Owens was a one trick pony last year. The formula for shutting him down was used over and over. 65.8 YPG.

I will gladly take my chances with Miles Austin and Roy Williams at WR. Felix Jones can score 10 TDs by himself. Martellus Bennett needs to be involved more. The ball needs to be run about 46-47% of the time and not 42% of the time. Marion Barber is a stud. Tashard Choice showed he is a player. Jason Witten caught balls with Keyshawn Johnson on the team. Yet, some of Owens' fans think the All Pro tightend "needs" Terrell Owens to be productive. I laugh at that notion. I don't know why the Cowboys need the $9 million dollar idecoy. He's destroying the team.

If I was Jerry Jones, and I'm not, I would eat that money so fast it would make "Little T's" head spin.

Two words:

Justin Gage

 

[khiladi]

Owens was a one trick pony last year. The formula for shutting him down was used over and over. 65.8 YPG.

I beg to differ... Garrett was a one-trick pony. It was Garrett that refused to adjust, not TO...

 

[Rampage]