Reduced Free Agency This Year...

[MichaelWinicki]

Couldn't the team use the uncapped year to rework existing contracts for players like the ones you mentioned? Example, give Newman another bonus next year and lower the price of his remaining years. Then we could keep him for the remainder of his contract even if the CAP is reinstituted? Or is there some special rule that any bonus money paid out in an uncapped year is prorated when the cap returns?

I don't know why they couldn't.

Maybe Adam knows of some such rule.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

Socialism NFL style

 

[Big Dakota]

Whenever the League Year is scheduled to begin. I'm pretty sure it's March 5 this year.

That's what i figured.

So really, if we're being honest there's probably no chance all these things get worked out in the next 8 weeks and a new CBA is signed. So 2010 will be uncapped and all these UFA's are pretty muched screwed unless a miracle happens real soon and considering i haven't heard a word about the two sides even talking that isn't gonna happen.

 

[Randy White]

Flo,Newman and Hamlin will be cut before they see the end of their deals.

As well as Barber, I have no doubt.

Now, the question is how much effect will it have on the Cowboys when that happens ?

I contend that if they do it next season, while there's no cap, the team might go through a temporary transition phase, but would ultimately be in better shape in the long run. Some of the replacements for those players ( Flo, Barber, Hamlin ) are already on the roster.

If they wait until after a new CBA, and thus a cap, is in place, I think it would be worse.

 

[Randy White]

I would expect that Jerreh & co. will have a good understanding of what type of cap could be in affect after all this posturing is over with.

Which means I think if they believe the cap is going to be restrictive, say in 2012, then yeah guys like Adams, Newman, Hamlin and Barber could be in trouble this coming offseason. But, if none of those players are cut, I would think the Cowboy braintrust believes that they will be able to work within the upcoming (new) cap framework without the bloodletting.

I agree. So I guess we'll just have to wait to read the writting on the wall through their moves this off-season.

I hope, though, that Jerrah doesn't get emotionally attach the way he did the last time he had a contending team. I mean, it was understandable what he did ( as in paying the guys for winning the 3 SBs ) but that set us back a few years. We couldn't make up for the bad drafts.

 

[Randy White]

This is NOT correct. Only the final four teams can't sign a UFA until they lose one -- but they can sign any number of players who were cut..

And if I'm guessing right, THAT market is going to be WAY much better than the FAs who's contract expired. I'm thinking it's going to be a blood bath for the players, where it comes to dumping overbloated contracts.

If I were an owner, I'd certainly wouldn't pass up this opportunity to get rid of mistakes.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Per NFL.com

» The remaining playoff teams will not be allowed to spend money this offseason in free agency if there is an uncapped season. The final eight teams in that scenario are only allowed to replace players they lost, not just add new players. They will need to think of new ways to improve their rosters

This is some total bs. Is this a shot a Jerry Jones from Roger Goddell? But how about if a player wanted to come to this team?

 

[NextGenBoys]

So let's say Spears is let go in FA.

Does that mean we can sign Seymour to whatever we want?

Why would you want to do that anyway?

Signing Seymour is going to break the bank. Not a smart decision IMO.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

I was never a fan of a uncapped year. I think it's bad for the sport, bad for the fans and as much as I could give two flips about Buffalo, it's bad for small market teams.

You make it sound a lot better.

I disagree, player movement under the CBA ruins the game IMO. This brings the league back to the days of the dynasty where teams are built via the draft and players grow with a team.

 

[TwentyOne]

Per NFL.com

» The remaining playoff teams will not be allowed to spend money this offseason in free agency if there is an uncapped season. The final eight teams in that scenario are only allowed to replace players they lost, not just add new players. They will need to think of new ways to improve their rosters

This quote is not correct.

The final 8 teams can always sign players that were released by other teams. The final 4 teams can also but there are some restrictions regarding the salaries they may spend on those new players.

The final 8 teams can also sign a UFA in case an own FA was lost to another team.

They are always allowed to sing their own FAs.

You can read about the new rules here for example: http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=46&aid=3261&view=archive

 

[juck]

Correct.

That's where the fun could be had.

Many big names are gonna be cut.

 

[Eskimo]

I disagree, player movement under the CBA ruins the game IMO. This brings the league back to the days of the dynasty where teams are built via the draft and players grow with a team.

I agree that FA has weakened the league as a whole via the disruption of the continuity that used to exist. Paradoxically, I wonder if it is getting coaches fired more quickly too as owners and GMs have the mindset they can go from dregs of the league to SB champions in a single year (and it has happened a few times).

The benefit is the parity that exists. There are more teams around .500, less dominant teams and bad teams can rebuild much more quickly through the combined means of FA and draft to acquire new talent.

I would prefer an NBA style soft cap where teams can go over the cap to sign their own players. I also think a hard rookie salary cap would make a lot of sense. I would also like the draft to be shortened to 5 rounds as many of the players picked in the 6th and 7th rounds don't make the roster of the team that drafted them. I think they would be better off if they could choose which team to go to. I would like UFA to start after 5 years in the league instead of 4 years due to the amount of time it takes to get most players to hit the field as starters.

Anyway, mostly what I want is just good football every year to watch. You'd think there was enough money that everyone could just take a small slice for themselves and be happy - but I guess it doesn't work like that.

 

[juck]

This quote is not correct.

The final 8 teams can always sign players that were released by other teams. The final 4 teams can also but there are some restrictions regarding the salaries they may spend on those new players.

The final 8 teams can also sign a UFA in case an own FA was lost to another team.

They are always allowed to sing their own FAs.

You can read about the new rules here for example: http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=46&aid=3261&view=archive

So after Boldin is cut.
We can cut RW11.
We can then proceed to sign Boldin.

 

[Eskimo]

So after Boldin is cut.
We can cut RW11.
We can then proceed to sign Boldin.

No, we wouldn't be able to do that. That would only be true if RW11's contract was expiring.

 

[iceberg]

Correct.

Folks can put away their "wish" lists.

that's not gonna happen, they'll just make up scenarios where some other player goes so their wish list can come in.

 

[Joe Realist]

that stinks

 

[AdamJT13]

No, we wouldn't be able to do that. That would only be true if RW11's contract was expiring.

Anyone can sign Boldin if he gets cut, no matter where they finished.

Why Arizona would cut him is the question.

 

[AdamJT13]

If you ask me, a mod should edit the title of this thread, given that the title and the original post are not correct.

 

[silverbear]

So let's say Spears is let go in FA.

Does that mean we can sign Seymour to whatever we want?

No, as I understand it, if we lose a FA, we can then go out and sign one, but only to a contract that does not exceed what our departing FA got... one assumes that Seymour will make a lot more than Spears does...

 

[silverbear]

That's some BS.

Actually, it's a good, commonsense rule to ensure that the top teams don't make a mockery of the uncapped year by going out and buying up all the top talent...

I personally don't want to see a New York Yankees in the NFL, even if it's my Cowboys...