Remember all the Eli Manning, Drew Henson comparisons last year? LOL

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If Henson was as good, he'd be a starting NFL quarterback by now. He wouldn't have went to baseball, he'd be a starting NFL quarterback by now. He wouldn't be #3 on a team light on depth at the position, he'd be our starting NFL quarterback by now.

Give up this pathetic fascination with "boy-wonderlic"...he'll never be a starting NFL quarterback.

Yeah and I'll never hit the lotto either...lol

Bottom line is, no one knows what lies in the future, we are all speculating here.

The only thing we "Know" now is Bledsoe has a 103 QB rating.

I thought he was gonna stink up the place, so even the amazing Jarvman can be wrong at times !

As to Henson and Romo's future...Well, it hasn't been written yet.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
They said Manning was getting too much hype. :rolleyes: Meanwhile, Henson is struggling to be the #3 QB on this team, while Manning is growing up fast.

He was getting too much hype. But that comes with being the first pick in the draft, refusing to play for the team that drafts him, and costing a megaload of draft picks to the team that trades for him. He better be good.

No one struggles to be the #3 QB.

The Giants couldn't afford to be patient with Manning. He cost them too much. The Cowboys, on the other hand, now that they have Bledsoe, can be with Henson, and should deal with him just like they are - like a potential prospect who has been out of the game for three years when they traded for him.

When this team is built with surrounding talent around the QB position, just like BP mentioned when referring to Big Ben, when Henson has another year to adjust his throwing motion and learn the offense behind the scout team, and then if Henson continues to struggle, all Cowboys fans should be a little distressed. However, if he shines, then the Cowboys might have just turned a coal into a diamond without paying for it except with the necessary time to create one.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
I love it when someone tries to dig up stuff from the past in order to gloat or for whatever reason...you know like another person on here does on a regular basis...Really love it.



Ok...that is a Lie...I don't love it, kind of find it annoying...but this is a message board and people are entitled to their opinions and to talk football. :cool:

Well, sorry you took it as gloating, but I never got involved in any QB arguments last year, so it's hard for me to gloat about anything really. I always though bickering over baseball projects was pointless. I started this thread because I remember all the Manning vs. Henson threads we had to read last year, and I was giving props to a kid who impressed me after watching the game. We're football fans, right? :eek:: I've been on the "bring in a vet or bring in a first rounder" bandwagon for years now, even when Carter and Hutchinson were the starters. Henson has alway been that interesting project who maybe if the stars are properly aligned could have success three or four years down the line, but I never had much of an opinion on his signing.

Kind of funny though how folks jumped on people who said Eli was just as good as Henson, and maybe a better future talent, but now that they've been proven true, they're simply gloaters. C'mon fellas, if you make assertions, you've gotta stand by them through the good and the bad. Hell, I once thought the Joey Galloway trade was a good idea too. :bang2:
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Well, sorry you took it as gloating, but I never got involved in any QB arguments last year, so it's hard for me to gloat about anything really. I always though bickering over baseball projects was pointless. I started this thread because I remember all the Manning vs. Henson threads we had to read last year, and I was giving props to a kid who impressed me after watching the game. We're football fans, right? :eek:: I've been on the "bring in a vet or bring in a first rounder" bandwagon for years now, even when Carter and Hutchinson were the starters. Henson has alway been that interesting project who maybe if the stars are properly aligned could have success three or four years down the line, but I never had much of an opinion on his signing.

Kind of funny though how folks jumped on people who said Eli was just as good as Henson, and maybe a better future talent, but now that they've been proven true, they're simply gloaters. C'mon fellas, if you make assertions, you've gotta stand by them through the good and the bad. Hell, I once thought the Joey Galloway trade was a good idea too. :bang2:


my words....

to gloat or for whatever reason


:cool:
 

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He was getting too much hype. But that comes with being the first pick in the draft, refusing to play for the team that drafts him, and costing a megaload of draft picks to the team that trades for him. He better be good.

No one struggles to be the #3 QB.

The Giants couldn't afford to be patient with Manning. He cost them too much. The Cowboys, on the other hand, now that they have Bledsoe, can be with Henson, and should deal with him just like they are - like a potential prospect who has been out of the game for three years when they traded for him.

When this team is built with surrounding talent around the QB position, just like BP mentioned when referring to Big Ben, when Henson has another year to adjust his throwing motion and learn the offense behind the scout team, and then if Henson continues to struggle, all Cowboys fans should be a little distressed. However, if he shines, then the Cowboys might have just turned a coal into a diamond without paying for it except with the necessary time to create one.

I have no prob with Henson being a long-term project, I just think the Cowboys are foolish if they refuse to draft any high round QBs and put all their money on a project of projects in Henson. In a perfect world, I'd imagine the Cowboys QB depth chart with #1 a reliable veteran such as Bledsoe, #2 a 1st round QB, and #3 a long-term cheap project like Henson.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
my words....

to gloat or for whatever reason


:cool:

Okay then, the OR is revenge... revenge I tell ya! A pox on all you folks who wrote 10,000,000 QB threads over the last few years on scrubs who wouldn't start on any other team! May your mother's cousin's college roommate be inflicted with a nasty case of John Madden athlete's foot! :D
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Okay then, the OR is revenge... revenge I tell ya! A pox on all you folks who wrote 10,000,000 QB threads over the last few years on scrubs who wouldn't start on any other team! May your mother's cousin's college roommate be inflicted with a nasty case of John Madden athlete's foot! :D

:bow:
That I can get into...as those multitude of QB threads with QC, Hutch, Vinny, Romo and Henson have all bored me. :D
 

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Just giving Eli his props, and calling out the quarterback talent experts on the board, including myself. Not that it's a surprise. If we were any good at spotting talent, it's safe to say we'd be working for the Cowboys, not writing on a message board about them. ;)

Folks have to put aside their bias and admit that was one hell of a game for a second year player. Sort of reminds me of some of Aikman's early breakout games. I'm just saying it's about time the Cowboys went early in the draft for a QB. These projects have failed. Who knows, Henson may be a franchise QB one day, but anyone who isn't a homer knows it ain't looking good to be demoted from #2 to #3 after a year of experience and the same competition on the depth charts. Henson can't beat out a Bledsoe, but he sure as hell should be able to beat out a Romo.
He did have one hell of a game but I hope he stinks up to the high heavens for the rest of his career.

The jury is still out on Henson. It is not how you start but how you finish. The way Bledsoe is playing Eli wouldn't beat him out either.
 

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I can remember when Romo had his throwing motion changed and he almost got cut last year. If it wans't for him starting to get comfortable with the changes he had to make he would have been toast. Now Henson was i his same situation this year. New throwing motion and all he still did not look as bad as Romo did that year. Look at Romo now. I think we all will be happy with Henson come training camp next year. By the way, as one pro scout said recently, Henson is at about a senior college level right now. When we draft are number #1 reciver next year, he will be able to develop with Henson. I would say are future is bright. By the way, as long as Henson is showing imporvement running the scout team there will now QB added from the draft. You already have your veteran starter, future journey men back up(Romo), and future franchise starter (Henson).
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
I have no prob with Henson being a long-term project, I just think the Cowboys are foolish if they refuse to draft any high round QBs and put all their money on a project of projects in Henson. In a perfect world, I'd imagine the Cowboys QB depth chart with #1 a reliable veteran such as Bledsoe, #2 a 1st round QB, and #3 a long-term cheap project like Henson.

Now that makes sense, why put all of our eggs in the Henson basket. If after getting a first or second round qb next year to be the heir apparent and Henson develops a couple of years down the road, then we can trade him for a high pick. Drafting a qb next year high gives us a better option. Whatever coaching up they need will be less than what Henson needs now. As for Romo, he is and always will be a third stringer and we can do better.
 

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People look way too much into who is starting now and who isn't...

You don't know how Henson is doing at all. Because he is 3rd string really doesn't mean anything.

Romo is in his 3rd year in the nfl, Henson is in his second. Romo and Manning both played extensively in college, and didn't have a layoff before going pro. Use some common sense.

Manning and Henson are in two completely different situations. You want to compare them because you're an idiot.

Being out of football doesn't affect Henson in the long run, and he also would have been a first round draft pick. whats your point?

And Henson is hardly a bargain bin qb. Sure he was a steal, but he was not a loser like Hutchinson.

Eddie we were in the playoff hunt til pretty much the last game of the season.

And it isn't just about playing him so he can get experience, but the fact is if you play a qb before they're ready, they can lose confidence that can effect their career.
 

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You don't invest the time and money into a player like Henson just to trade them away.

And you don't draft quarterbacks in the first round just to trade them either.

You guys are classic Maddenites.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Well, sorry you took it as gloating, but I never got involved in any QB arguments last year, so it's hard for me to gloat about anything really. I always though bickering over baseball projects was pointless. I started this thread because I remember all the Manning vs. Henson threads we had to read last year, and I was giving props to a kid who impressed me after watching the game. We're football fans, right? :eek:: I've been on the "bring in a vet or bring in a first rounder" bandwagon for years now, even when Carter and Hutchinson were the starters. Henson has alway been that interesting project who maybe if the stars are properly aligned could have success three or four years down the line, but I never had much of an opinion on his signing.

Kind of funny though how folks jumped on people who said Eli was just as good as Henson, and maybe a better future talent, but now that they've been proven true, they're simply gloaters. C'mon fellas, if you make assertions, you've gotta stand by them through the good and the bad. Hell, I once thought the Joey Galloway trade was a good idea too. :bang2:

There must not have been many of them, because I don't remember reading any of these threads. I don't really see the point of this thread. Comparing Eli Manning to Drew Henson now or back then is equally ridiculous.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Grab a legit 1st round QB, no more projects!
Yes! but get a real qb not a wannabe losman type who thinks hes gods gift. Eli looks spectacular which is something i think me and a lot of other people were expecting. With a pedigree like that, the guy was as close to a sure thing franchise QB as you can get. They gave up a lot, but i think in the long run its going to pay off, especially getting a good wr in free agency since they didnt have a #1 pick.
 

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Henson will have the next season to show marked improvement, and I'm rooting for him to make a leap. I hope he's getting a lot of work with the scout team that will at least get him used to his new throwing motion and reads and whatnot.
 

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CowboyManDan, I think by the end of the season Henson ends up being the number 2. I also believe that will shut up a lot of haters.
 

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CowboyManDan, I think by the end of the season Henson ends up being the number 2. I also believe that will shut up a lot of haters.

And if he ends up as #3 will the apologists continue to make excuses? Call he a hater if you want, I was against this signing when it happened but I said then I hoped to have been proven wrong since we all would win then.

Fact is, Henson is going to have to show something sometime soon, not this year but next. And until then I'm saying he's nothing but a project at best, forget being a great QB - I'm doubtful he'll last long enough to leave on his terms.

And if he turns out to be another Hutch I ask Jerry to please stop being cute and draft a QB the normal route.
 

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Your right, most of what you said is right. He didnt play last season because of his "sheer physical talent". He played so Parcells could shut Jones up. And after on half of a football game thats what took place.

Back and to the left, back and to the left.

And I'm the one who is supposed to believe in conspiracy theories when it comes to Parcells?:rolleyes:
 

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And if he ends up as #3 will the apologists continue to make excuses? Call he a hater if you want, I was against this signing when it happened but I said then I hoped to have been proven wrong since we all would win then.

Fact is, Henson is going to have to show something sometime soon, not this year but next. And until then I'm saying he's nothing but a project at best, forget being a great QB - I'm doubtful he'll last long enough to leave on his terms.

And if he turns out to be another Hutch I ask Jerry to please stop being cute and draft a QB the normal route.

If he ends up the #3, nothing changes... I'm not saying I don't have higher expecations than that, but it certainly doesn't mean anything if he doesn't become the 2nd.

I really am getting tired of arguing about this.
 
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