Replacing a Weakness

[Diehardblues]

I’m not just blaming Marinelli as I said this predates him.

We’ve seen what Phillips did in Houston and Denver, yet while he was here he had to resort in telling us that forcing the opposition to punt was a turnover too.

And that was with 8 former No. 1 draft picks on defence as well as Ware in his pomp!

Like I said when it’s a player or two then blame the player(s), but when it’s everyone then blaming the players is missing the mark.

The blame falls squarely on whoever took 2nd round risks in the draft on our DL which have floundered not to mention other risk in FA on DL.

 

[jobberone]

I never said that interior DL's get the most sacks. I said that QB's are more bothered by interior pressure. This has been stated by QB's like Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan and others.




YR

I think that's true some of the time. Many QBs want to step up. Rodgers seems to do rather well when flushed. You're still seeing more pressure and hits as well as sacks from outside. Pressure is what bothers QBs although well disguised defenses create problems as to matchups.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think that's true some of the time. Many QBs want to step up. Rodgers seems to do rather well when flushed. You're still seeing more pressure and hits as well as sacks from outside. Pressure is what bothers QBs although well disguised defenses create problems as to matchups.

Difference is that outside pressure doesn't move the QB off their launch point as much to where they are not as comfortable. Most QB's are comfortable climbing up the pocket and making their throw. Inside pressure takes that out and forces them to flush out to the outside or to move backwards.




YR

 

[khiladi]

Here is the counter point. It makes a ton of sense.

I think that counter-point agrees with what I was saying. Dallas wanted to keep them, but free agency was paying them a lot. It's not like we wanted a situation where we were trying to get rid of these guys. We probably threw some numbers at them and they laughed it off inside.

 

[jobberone]

Difference is that outside pressure doesn't move the QB off their launch point as much to where they are not as comfortable. Most QB's are comfortable climbing up the pocket and making their throw. Inside pressure takes that out and forces them to flush out to the outside or to move backwards.




YR

I won't argue that some QBs like to move up in the pocket and step into their throw. You're supposed to mechanically speaking step into the throw. Many QBs are just as comfortable moving around in the pocket or outside it and throwing or even more so.

I'm not trying to just be argumentative here only to point out that most pressure comes outside. That's where you are one on one most often. In the interior it's often 3 on 2. And that's the argument for shooting the gap.

I'm a huge believer that the DL can be synergistic and once that happens you often get more pressure than you'd expect even when four guys are doing it. So I've always been a proponent of getting pressure up the middle.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Believe it or not, our pass rush was middle of the pack last season. We were still ranked 26th.

The way people talk, you would think our sack total ranked dead last...fact is teams don't get pressure like they used to because of the quick passing game.

I thought about that. What would be really great would be if sacks didn't happen, we got batted balls instead. Batted balls can be great because in most cases they either cause 1) an incompletion or 2) an interception. You would think with so much quick release there would be more batted balls.

 

[JoeKing]

Don't you guys understand if they had not screwed up the cap so bad I bet all of the guy would have been back or most. It's because all they do is restructure contracts is why this happend. You were, 13-3 you should have been able to add to this team not decimate the D because you had no cap room.

The secondary guys that left are being overvalued by their new teams. No way we should pay that much for those guys regardless of our cap situation.