Report: Bears called Cowboys about Jeremiah Ratliff as “security precaution”

[punchnjudy]

League needs to intervene and do it all it can to make sure he gets some help.

 

[DallasInDC]

He's the Debil!!!!

 

[FLCowboyFan]

On October 21, Bears DL Jeremiah Ratliff went to the team facility, said he was the devil and told staffers he wanted their kids to die, according to a police report obtained by TMZ Sports. He was cut the next day. Ratliff has not been charged in the incident.

What's wrong with that? Don't we all do that a couple of times a year?

 

[speedkilz88]

That was his last visit, first visit he said this:

According to the police report, Ratliff at one point said “he felt like killing everybody in the building.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...iah-ratliff-death-threats-20151030-story.html


He needs to be committed to an institution and evaluated before something does happen.

 

[JohnsKey19]

People can joke but this is sad. Guy clearly needs some help before he harms someone or even himself. I don't know all of the details but i would hope the Bears or NFL tried to intervene after he was cut.

 

[Manster68]

Sad to say, but one does wonder if he has taken too many blows to the head.

I don't remember too many Cowboy fans having issues with him back in 2010. Then he signed his new extension and just flipped out. Needless-to-say, the guy who solidified the 2005 7th round pick disappointed in the end.

My personal rule is that any player drafted 4th round and beyond makes a Pro Bowl solidifies that draft pick - it was not a wasted pick or a bust.

 

[Doc50]

This is true. I remember him and Ware being close but Ware making the comments that he became a bit anti-social around the end.

Don't want to speculate too much, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a severe case of being bipolar. I hope he gets checked out.

The type of psychosis that's being described is more aligned with a schizophrenic disorder, of which there are several subtypes. Schizotypal personality disorder may be a good fit for him.

At any rate, therapy can keep even these folks functional.

The mood and mental status changes seen in CTE are not likely applicable here; several years need to pass before those altered behaviors begin to emerge.

Hallucinogenics such as PCP can also cause such symptoms.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The type of psychosis that's being described is more aligned with a schizophrenic disorder, of which there are several subtypes. Schizotypal personality disorder may be a good fit for him.

At any rate, therapy can keep even these folks functional.

The mood and mental status changes seen in CTE are not likely applicable here; several years need to pass before those altered behaviors begin to emerge.

Hallucinogenics such as PCP can also cause such symptoms.

Psychological categorization is at best a soft science. Categorizing symptoms is a nice shortcut for diagnosis but doesn't speak at all to the biomechanics of cognitive and emotional behavior. They shoehorn a schizoeffective rider onto the bipolar classification. It makes sense because paranoid mania is famously delusional. Reading the DSM you cannot tell if they think it causative or directly related. It is implied nonetheless. You see this type of thing throughout their diagnostic manuals. It wouldn't be so bad if they wouldn't use questionable statistical methods like p-values to correlate their categories with observations. I joke with a pysicist friend of mine that the psychological dissertation has to be the easies in all of academia because you can have your numbers say what ever you want with how they are allowed to bias and otherwise cook the numbers.

Science is doing amazing work in mapping out the function of the visual and sensory cortex over the last 2 decades and its efficacy is evidenced by functioning neural interfaces that allow us to actuate prosthetics and cause sensory input directly. It seems to me that psychologists are still hanging onto century old categorizations.

 

[LandryFan]

Psychological categorization is at best a soft science. Categorizing symptoms is a nice shortcut for diagnosis but doesn't speak at all to the biomechanics of cognitive and emotional behavior. They shoehorn a schizoeffective rider onto the bipolar classification. It makes sense because paranoid mania is famously delusional. Reading the DSM you cannot tell if they think it causative or directly related. It is implied nonetheless. You see this type of thing throughout their diagnostic manuals. It wouldn't be so bad if they wouldn't use questionable statistical methods like p-values to correlate their categories with observations. I joke with a pysicist friend of mine that the psychological dissertation has to be the easies in all of academia because you can have your numbers say what ever you want with how they are allowed to bias and otherwise cook the numbers.

Science is doing amazing work in mapping out the function of the visual and sensory cortex over the last 2 decades and its efficacy is evidenced by functioning neural interfaces that allow us to actuate prosthetics and cause sensory input directly. It seems to me that psychologists are still hanging onto century old categorizations.

I completely agree with all of that!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I completely agree with all of that!

According to the main psychological diagnostic manual, bipolar and schizophrenia are not mutually exclusive.

The studies of pyschologists are not held to the standards of proof of most other sciences. Economists do the same tripe but that is about it. Look up sigma ratings and p-values if you want to learn more about what I am talking about.

Neurologists have made tremendous strides detailing the mechanics of the brain. We can tell they are right because we can make paraplegics walk and control a mouse with a neural interface directly to the brain. OTOH, psychologist still uses Yung's categories which are 100 years old and at best ignorant.

 

[Doc50]

Psychological categorization is at best a soft science. Categorizing symptoms is a nice shortcut for diagnosis but doesn't speak at all to the biomechanics of cognitive and emotional behavior. They shoehorn a schizoeffective rider onto the bipolar classification. It makes sense because paranoid mania is famously delusional. Reading the DSM you cannot tell if they think it causative or directly related. It is implied nonetheless. You see this type of thing throughout their diagnostic manuals. It wouldn't be so bad if they wouldn't use questionable statistical methods like p-values to correlate their categories with observations. I joke with a pysicist friend of mine that the psychological dissertation has to be the easies in all of academia because you can have your numbers say what ever you want with how they are allowed to bias and otherwise cook the numbers.

Science is doing amazing work in mapping out the function of the visual and sensory cortex over the last 2 decades and its efficacy is evidenced by functioning neural interfaces that allow us to actuate prosthetics and cause sensory input directly. It seems to me that psychologists are still hanging onto century old categorizations.

Alas, medicine is both art and science. There is such variation from one individual to the next that even the most firm diagnosis will sometimes not respond to the most likely and logical therapy.

The realm of psychiatry and psychology is even less predictable, rendering its practice tedious and difficult. The profession would certainly welcome specific neurological markers or site-stimulation capabilities in order to affirm diagnosis and more specifically direct therapy.
Such studies have been ongoing for decades, but there are inherent barriers to cognitive and emotional intervention that do not exist in sensory or motor interactions.

Tremendous liability is therefore incurred with any medical or behavioral modification, but many such therapies have very low risk/benefit ratios and high probabilities of substantial improvement.

Now let's kick some She-hawk gluteus.

 

[RunDMC]

Sounds like the beating and pounding Rat took over the years being an undersized nose tackle has taken it's toll. I really don't think Jay is a bad dude. He just needs help and immediately.

 

[Rogerthat12]

He's the Debil!!!!

 

[John813]

Man, I hope Ratliff, his family and friends take serious steps to get him checked out mentally.
Would be a damn shame if he loses it and takes his own life/someone else.

 

[RunDMC]

Are Rat and D-Ware still close? If so I hope DeMarcus comes him up. Try and talk some sense into him. In a state such as his dude needs a friend. Needs someone to listen and console him.

 

[Nightman]

Sounds like the beating and pounding Rat took over the years being an undersized nose tackle has taken it's toll. I really don't think Jay is a bad dude. He just needs help and immediately.

You can't blame that kind of outburst on football. That is just evil and mean.

 

[slomoxn]

I've never seen such a drastic change in a player. Ultimate positive team guy, and then completely unpredictable and paranoid malcontent. And for really no reason.

Greg Ellis on steroids

 

[Redball Express]

WOW

He must be insane or something.

I say..

sign him now and lets get back the bonus we already fronted him.

then cut him.

 

[Jack Burton]

Did Jerry ever pursue legal action against him? Or did he just let it go?

 

[RunDMC]

You can't blame that kind of outburst on football. That is just evil and mean.

Could be CET who knows?