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[EST_1986]

Do you have a sense of humor?
I stated it was in jest. But yet you keep coming at me as if I was serious.

He’s a stick in the mud.

 

[xwalker]

I noticed some teams have their rookies report earlier than the vets but the Cowboys have them in on the same day. Why not bring in the rookies early for a little extra work? What are the rules on this? Why do some teams do it and some don’t? Why don’t all 30 teams not in the HOF game report on the same date?

For all players that want to depart from Dallas, they likely put them on the team flight.

 

[SoupcanSam]

Yep, sure is. And this this place too, well crazier. Or was that what you meant.

I bet the season is when you see a boatload of new troll and bandwagon accounts turn up!

 

[jazzcat22]

For all players that want to depart from Dallas, they likely put them on the team flight.

Actually I think this has been a requirement. That they fly out as a team. But there are usually a few exceptions. As if a player was out of town for certain reasons. I believe a few players were in CA last year or so, so it made no sense for them to return to Dallas, and turn around and fly back.
I think a player also had personal family matters, like a death in the family, and had to fly out separate from another state.

 

[CowboyRoy]

https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/league-governance/2018-19-important-nfl-dates/

Rules are under “Mid-July”.

Clubs are permitted to open preseason training camp for rookies beginning seven days prior to the club’s earliest permissible mandatory reporting date for veteran players. Veteran players other than quarterbacks or injured players may report to a club’s preseason training camp no earlier than 15 days prior to the club’s first scheduled preseason game or July 15, whichever is later.

Granted the rules are different, but I remember people calling Wades training camps as "camp cupcake". LOL

Garrett's training camps are a walk in the park compared to Wades. The #1 objective for Garrett is for everyone to come out healthy. A great objective for sure. I do like the way he holds older veterans out and how he keeps most starters out of preseason games.

 

[jazzcat22]

I bet the season is when you see a boatload of new troll and bandwagon accounts turn up!

Oh yeah, for sure.
I remember all the naysayers in 2014, seems like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. But as soon as the team was winning, looking very good, they were no where to be found during the season. Even many of the negative nancies changed their tune a bit. Then with the injuries and knowing it was the injuries they returned 10 fold during 2015.

 

[xwalker]

Actually I think this has been a requirement. That they fly out as a team. But there are usually a few exceptions. As if a player was out of town for certain reasons. I believe a few players were in CA last year or so, so it made no sense for them to return to Dallas, and turn around and fly back.
I think a player also had personal family matters, like a death in the family, and had to fly out separate from another state.

Yes, I think you are correct. They have to get permission if they are not flying with the team. Obviously players in CA don't need to fly to Dallas then back to CA so that's likely automatically approved.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And yet the teams are still free to set their own schedules on when to report. I'm not a fan what-so-ever of Roger the Clown, but when you cast aspersions at him for things he's not doing you make him a more sympathetic figure.

This is actually the first time I side with the players on anything. Next agreement they need to make sure Goodell doesnt have this kind of ridiculous power. He has created such a gap between players and owners its bad for the league.

 

[Cattle_Rancher]

I was listening to NFL on sirus this am and they said bc of the practice restrictions under the new cbA that it takes players 3 years to get the experience they used to get in 1 year...

I've also heard this is partly leading to more injuries, poorer tackling and longer time to develop players

I’ve heard that too

 

[JustChip]

I was listening to NFL on sirus this am and they said bc of the practice restrictions under the new cbA that it takes players 3 years to get the experience they used to get in 1 year...

I've also heard this is partly leading to more injuries, poorer tackling and longer time to develop players

Maybe some validity, but I think it's as much that players are expected to produce right away, including starting, where that wasn't the case 30 years ago.

 

[Longboysfan]

This is actually the first time I side with the players on anything. Next agreement they need to make sure Goodell doesnt have this kind of ridiculous power. He has created such a gap between players and owners its bad for the league.

Strike coming.....

 

[DeaconMoss]

The Cowboys used to do this. The rookies reported a2 to 3 days earlier.
I think since they went back to Oxnard, they stopped this. Probably a logistical thing. Could be the time involved or scheduling type of thing.

As well, they want even player on the same page at the same time. You have 6 to 10 draft picks, most of the time, 7. Another 10 UFFA's. What can they really prepare them for in a few extra days.

They don't have to practice in Oxnard. They can bring the rooks in early to the Star and get them learning the playbook, special teams, how to dress, how to carry the vets pads, how a NFL practice operates, etc...

 

[JoeKing]

Strike coming.....

Maybe so. The CBA expires after the 2020 season... favors the owners through the commissioners consolidated power. Players will continue to get rolled over if they allow the same negotiators in the NFLPA to represent them. They can strike all they want but until their respresentation changes, they will continue to get unsatisfatory results. NFLPA CEO, DeMaurice Smith has done a terrible job of getting these players a fair CBA in the past. He has got to go.

 

[JustChip]

Maybe so. The CBA expires after the 2020 season... favors the owners through the commissioners consolidated power. Players will continue to get rolled over if they allow the same negotiators in the NFLPA to represent them. They can strike all they want but until their respresentation changes, they will continue to get unsatisfatory results. NFLPA CEO, DeMaurice Smith has done a terrible job of getting these players a fair CBA in the past. He has got to go.

I used to think a strike was in the offing over the NFL's/Goodell's disciplinary actions. Only maybe 2% of the membership is affected by Goodell's Draconian actions so, the question is, if 98% are unaffected, would there really be support for drawing a line in the sand? The players will have to give up something to get the NFL to change/lessen so what will the 98% be willing to forego to help the 2%?

 

[JoeKing]

I used to think a strike was in the offing over the NFL's/Goodell's disciplinary actions. Only maybe 2% of the membership is affected by Goodell's Draconian actions so, the question is, if 98% are unaffected, would there really be support for drawing a line in the sand? The players will have to give up something to get the NFL to change/lessen so what will the 98% be willing to forego to help the 2%?

First, I disagree about the 2% being the only ones affected. Anyone in the NFL can potentially get affected so they should all be for change.

 

[DiResta]

How we doin guys?

 

[JustChip]

First, I disagree about the 2% being the only ones affected. Anyone in the NFL can potentially get affected so they should all be for change.

While what you say is true in the absolute, the discipline issues in practice has been largely limited to DV and substance "abuse". Maybe the later would affect a much larger %, but I doubt it. Otherwise, why wouldn't there already be more impact if it did. After all, they're testing. And I just can't buy that there would be that much support for a change to change the DV policy. Talk about swimming against the societal current.

 

[JoeKing]

While what you say is true in the absolute, the discipline issues in practice has been largely limited to DV and substance "abuse". Maybe the later would affect a much larger %, but I doubt it. Otherwise, why wouldn't there already be more impact if it did. After all, they're testing. And I just can't buy that there would be that much support for a change to change the DV policy. Talk about swimming against the societal current.

The current policy doesn't even require actual DV to occur to be disciplined by the commish. Zeke was never charged with any crime and the police think the bruise pictures of his accuser were not caused by him. All players are susceptible to being wrongly accused as long as Goodell has that kind of power. All players should want reform of the CBA.

 

[Longboysfan]

I used to think a strike was in the offing over the NFL's/Goodell's disciplinary actions. Only maybe 2% of the membership is affected by Goodell's Draconian actions so, the question is, if 98% are unaffected, would there really be support for drawing a line in the sand? The players will have to give up something to get the NFL to change/lessen so what will the 98% be willing to forego to help the 2%?

What's there to give up other than extra practice time?

 

[ejthedj]

Because this isn't a yet communist country where the teams aren't free to institute their own schedule.

The NFL is pretty communist. it's certainly not free market capitalism. Salary cap? set contracts for rookies? Too many to name. it's a manufactured market, highly governed, just like all "free" markets.