Report: Matt Cassel 'highly likely' to start Week 7 for Cowboys

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I can't wait to read all the "Cut Cassel" threads after/during the Giants game.
 

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Sigh. You know they're coming. We're idiots for not starting Moore.

I can't say Moore is the answer, but at least he is young. He's someone we can look into to see if he can be part of our future. Weeden and Cassel are nothing more than spare parts. Neither will be around next year. If it means losing (and we're gonna lose anyway), may as well see if the youngster has anything worth investing in.
 

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I guess Cassell could be worse how....? Multiple turn overs which though is worse than WeeDONE still results in a..... LOSS.... and that's no different from the WeeDONE status quo. So.... I'm going to take this news and

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I can't say Moore is the answer, but at least he is young. He's someone we can look into to see if he can be part of our future. Weeden and Cassel are nothing more than spare parts. Neither will be around next year. If it means losing (and we're gonna lose anyway), may as well see if the youngster has anything worth investing in.

Cassel at least gives the Cowboys a chance to still win. If you stick with Weeden or go to Moore who has zero NFL experience then you're basically conceding the year. With Dez coming in Cassel will have a legit #1 wideout for the first time since Randy Moss in 2008. That's gonna help the run game. Brice Butler should be back and we saw in the Saints game he can get vertical. Gives us the ability to play Terrance in the slot more where he can flourish. We can spread teams out more and unlike Weeden, Cassel has the ability to scan the field and go through all his reads and progressions and find the open man and the best matchup.

The Giants barely squeaked by a 49ers team that will probably be the worst team in the NFC this year. They go to Philadelphia next week and are down their two top receivers. After that game they face a Seahawks team that is relatively healthy and still is under .500 and just coughed up a 17 point lead to Cincinatti. Then you have the Eagles again. Two struggling teams in Miami and Tampa. If the Cowboys make the switch then can still win this thing.
 

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It has long been time to give up on Weeden. Its just stubborness at this point if they don't.

Or just buying time until Cassel is comfortable enough with the playbook .. I believe they (JG and SL) anticipated this once Romo went down and decided not to rely on young Moore and bring in a veteran who can hold the fort

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Cassell might come in and have a few turnovers. However, I think the turnovers with Weeden would be inevitable as both the opponents and the coaching staff put more pressure on him to take chances down the field. NE dropped a few passes before finally holding on to one, and even Weeden knows that 4 ypa isn't going to cut it. If he had started another game, he would have gone into that game pressing to make plays, and the result probably wouldn't have been pretty.
 

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I can't say Moore is the answer, but at least he is young. He's someone we can look into to see if he can be part of our future. Weeden and Cassel are nothing more than spare parts. Neither will be around next year. If it means losing (and we're gonna lose anyway), may as well see if the youngster has anything worth investing in.

If they are close to the same level of ability, I have to say I'd be interested in seeing Moore at this point, too. The fact that it took some time for Cassell to be named the backup is interesting. As is the fact that we kept Moore on the roster and just inactivated him rather than cutting him once Cassell came up to speed and stashing him back on the practice squad. We might actually be considering both Moore and Cassell for two weeks from now. Or we might be considering cutting Weeden. Who knows?
 

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If they are close to the same level of ability, I have to say I'd be interested in seeing Moore at this point, too. The fact that it took some time for Cassell to be named the backup is interesting. As is the fact that we kept Moore on the roster and just inactivated him rather than cutting him once Cassell came up to speed and stashing him back on the practice squad. We might actually be considering both Moore and Cassell for two weeks from now. Or we might be considering cutting Weeden. Who knows?

So you wanna throw out an undrafted free agent who has no NFL experience? Why do that when we have a guy in Matt Cassel who has proven he is capable of being a solid starting quarterback in this league. Capable of winning a lot of games and even quarterbacking a team to the playoffs.?
 

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Dallas Cowboys quarterback Matt Cassel could become the team's starting QB for Week 7 following the team's bye.

According to NFL insider Jason Cole, the Cowboys are "highly likely" to make the switch after they take a look at the position over the next week.

Head coach Jason Garrett said after Sunday night's loss to the Patriots that the team would evaluate the quarterback position. This means Cassel has the chance to take over for Brandon Weeden who has lost his last three starts for the Cowboys.

“Brandon didn’t play well enough,” Garrett said following the 30-6 home defeat, via ESPN Dallas. “We didn’t play well enough. We’re going to watch the tape and evaluate each guy and each unit to see how we can play better. That’s just the process we go through each week. Ultimately, we didn’t score enough points. Brandon was a part of that, but everybody else was a part of it too.”

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Matt-Cassel-highly-likely-to-start-Week-7-for-Cowboys-40190552

Maybe it is just me but sounds like someone just guessing with a gamble of high probability on his side. In other words saying highly likely is pretty much a captain obvious claim to make at this point, except we are dealing with the Jones and the Ginger...

I will have to hear it from Jason or Jerry before I believe it.

My sentiments exactly. Were it anybody else's decision, you have to think Cassell would have taken over at some point in the 3rd quarter against the Patriots. But Jason has a history of stubbornly sticking with the same gameplan/players, so like you, I will believe it when it I see it. And if I don't see it against the Giants, there's a "high probability" I'll be turning my TV off shortly after turning it on.
 

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So you wanna throw out an undrafted free agent who has no NFL experience? Why do that when we have a guy in Matt Cassel who has proven he is capable of being a solid starting quarterback in this league. Capable of winning a lot of games and even quarterbacking a team to the playoffs.?

Well, first, what I wanna do, and what I think is smart aren't necessarily the same thing. But I said, if they're close to the same level of ability in practice, yeah, I'd be tempted to go with the younger player.

I think they added Cassel because they wanted a guy backing up Weeden who'd had experience in a lot of NFL games, because coaches like predictability and they probably thought our defense would be able to keep us in some of these upcoming contests. That much makes sense, and I don't have a problem with it.

I like Cassel ok as a backup. He's got some wobbly balls that aren't nearly as nice as Weeden's big beautiful balls, but he can read the whole field and make the throws, more or less. If we play some better defense going forward and he can back off the coverage, or we get Dez back and definitely back the coverage off, that's a big win from where we're at. We'll probably also throw a few more picks, but who knows? Weeden's two in 3 and a half games was pretty good, actually.

That said, if the Moore kid is as smart as advertised, and if we really did keep him on the active roster for a reason, I'm curious as to why we did it. He was on teh PS before. Why not just slide him back down when we needed a roster spot to activate McClain? Probably it was to backup Cassel if we thought we'd have to activate him during the bye week, but maybe it's because we like what we've seen in him and Linehan already has a comfort level with him. If the former, then we're not going back to Weeden no matter what, and we should cut him. If the latter, then maybe we'll be taking a look at both Moore and Cassel in practice and consider rolling the dice.

I know the chances of Moore starting are remote, but it's still interesting to speculate about.
 

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Well, first, what I wanna do, and what I think is smart aren't necessarily the same thing. But I said, if they're close to the same level of ability in practice, yeah, I'd be tempted to go with the younger player.

I think they added Cassel because they wanted a guy backing up Weeden who'd had experience in a lot of NFL games, because coaches like predictability and they probably thought our defense would be able to keep us in some of these upcoming contests. That much makes sense, and I don't have a problem with it.

I like Cassel ok as a backup. He's got some wobbly balls that aren't nearly as nice as Weeden's big beautiful balls, but he can read the whole field and make the throws, more or less. If we play some better defense going forward and he can back off the coverage, or we get Dez back and definitely back the coverage off, that's a big win from where we're at. We'll probably also throw a few more picks, but who knows? Weeden's two in 3 and a half games was pretty good, actually.

That said, if the Moore kid is as smart as advertised, and if we really did keep him on the active roster for a reason, I'm curious as to why we did it. He was on teh PS before. Why not just slide him back down when we needed a roster spot to activate McClain? Probably it was to backup Cassel if we thought we'd have to activate him during the bye week, but maybe it's because we like what we've seen in him and Linehan already has a comfort level with him. If the former, then we're not going back to Weeden no matter what, and we should cut him. If the latter, then maybe we'll be taking a look at both Moore and Cassel in practice and consider rolling the dice.

I know the chances of Moore starting are remote, but it's still interesting to speculate about.

I'm not against going with Moore if Cassel struggles in his first start because at that point you can't go back to Weeden and if Cassel isn't able to be effective for you when you've got Dez Bryant back who will take the squeeze off the other receivers then I think you have to at least see what Moore can give you. I'm just not a fan of going with a guy with no experience right off the bat when you've got a proven veteran quarterback right there. Especially when the season can still be salvaged.

I do like what Moore has as far as his skill set. He's a bit undersized, but he's accurate, doesn't hold the ball, can move around a bit, good football IQ, and he's tough. Doesn't have a big arm and the lack of size scares some teams away, but we've seen Drew Bree's be one of the best quarterbacks of this era with similar attributes. Not saying he'll be Brees, but he's definitely a better option then going back to Weeden if Cassel struggles.
 
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I can't wait to read all the "Cut Cassel" threads after/during the Giants game.

Cassel - 73 Career Starts, 34 Wins - 39 Losses = .466

Weedon - 24 Career Starts, 5 Wins -19 Losses (NFL Record 11 in a Row) = .208
 

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First Half:
Drive 1: Punt (three-and-out)
Drive 2: Punt (three-and-out)
Drive 3: FG
Drive 4: Punt (three-and-out)
Drive 5: Punt (three-and-out)
Drive 6: Punt (three-and-out)
Drive 7: Punt (three-and-out)
Drive 8: End of half

Second Half:
Drive 9: FG
Drive 10: Fumble
Drive 11: Interception
Drive 12: Downs

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015/10/12/9501003/patriots-cowboys-the-day-after-by-the-numbers

First Round Pick Brandon Weedon the 22nd Overall Choice by the Cleveland Browns in the 2012 NFL Draft, has just 5 wins in the National Football League for his entire football career...HELLO!
 

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So you wanna throw out an undrafted free agent who has no NFL experience? Why do that when we have a guy in Matt Cassel who has proven he is capable of being a solid starting quarterback in this league. Capable of winning a lot of games and even quarterbacking a team to the playoffs.?

What ??? Cassel QBing this team to the playoffs? Are you serious or are you reading too much JRR Tolkien?
 

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I'm not against going with Moore if Cassel struggles in his first start because at that point you can't go back to Weeden and if Cassel isn't able to be effective for you when you've got Dez Bryant back who will take the squeeze off the other receivers then I think you have to at least see what Moore can give you. I'm just not a fan of going with a guy with no experience right off the bat when you've got a proven veteran quarterback right there. Especially when the season can still be salvaged.

I do like what Moore has as far as his skill set. He's a bit undersized, but he's accurate, doesn't hold the ball, can move around a bit, good football IQ, and he's tough. Doesn't have a big arm and the lack of size scares some teams away, but we've seen Drew Bree's be one of the best quarterbacks of this era with similar attributes. Not saying he'll be Brees, but he's definitely a better option then going back to Weeden if Cassel struggles.

That's what I kind of like about him. If we're stuck throwing to Lucky Whitehead and Beasley and the TEs or RBs underneath, his arm doesn't hurt us too badly. It's not like we're getting separation downfield. If he's as smart as advertised and can take care of the ball, he can do what Brees effectively did to us (no, I'm *not* saying he's Drew Brees. I'm saying he can throw 3-4 yard *average* attempts all night long and still move the chains if he's finding the right open receiver). We've got the pass protection. And the guy's definitely a winner.

Realistically, yeah, I know we'd go with Cassel. But it's still intriguing to me.
 
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