Report: Myles Jack has 'bone and cartilage starting to break away'
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You take Carsus in the 1st, Jack in the 2nd. Then have Wentz touch his knee. Problem solved.
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I imagine he is probably off the board now... At least he should be Imo I would hope they have had enough experience with injured Linebackers to pass on another.
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I don't know if this report today is true or not - but I very much doubt Jack could do a 40" Vertical and 10'4" broad jump at his Pro Day a month ago if his knee was really this bad. Everything this time of year - everything - is a smoke screen.
Also you can file this in the "Guy at the Liquor Store" file but I was talking with a friend today that is a Cowboy fan and spends a lot of time at UCLA, he heard from several people Jack's knee will be fine in time.
Also you can file this in the "Guy at the Liquor Store" file but I was talking with a friend today that is a Cowboy fan and spends a lot of time at UCLA, he heard from several people Jack's knee will be fine in time.
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Mr Cowboy
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Well if our staff would have looked at he and Smiths knees they would have said day to day!
the Cowboys team physician actually performed Smith's surgery.........
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Funny, but Pat Kirwin said he checked out fine and has him in his latest mock to Dallas. 
It is a shame, but there is always microfracture surgery as well if the cartilage breaks away or is worn down, but this definitely should remove him as a consideration at least in the first two days. If you want to take a flyer in the fourth or later, why not, it's a crapshoot anyway.
It is a shame, but there is always microfracture surgery as well if the cartilage breaks away or is worn down, but this definitely should remove him as a consideration at least in the first two days. If you want to take a flyer in the fourth or later, why not, it's a crapshoot anyway.
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Go to the other thread, this has been addressed already cupcake.
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I love the false narrative of yours.
"people have been clamoring for months"
Are you kidding? It's been the QBs, Ramsey and Zeke who the Zone has been in love with. Jack has been an after thought brought up only occasionally with most people saying...they'd pass on a coverage LB who doesn't get sacks.
The way you invent arguments others made so you can be right...is impressive.
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You obviously don't pay attention to Twitter, where there are a lot of black armbands in play now.
I am not going to find them for you, but I suggest you look over threads in the Draft Forum for the past few months.
Jack has definitely been a belle of the ball.[/quote]
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Saying the dame lie over and over doesn't make it true.
Jack, here on the zone, was definitely in the vast minority of people's wants.
Just in case you don't know what vast means... It's yuuugggeeee
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Cupcake? seems out of bounds there Pops.
Get those cataract glasses off and get used to the fact that you were completely wrong about Myles in terms of his injury and value in this draft. Is that you Myles?? I can't see things clearly.
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Sorry cupcake (the substance of your logic) but your bogus arguments will not hold under scrutiny when the Jags draft Jack regardless of this unofficial and unreliable tweet, at selection five, unless someone beats them to the punch.
You have from the beginning misunderstood the basic distinction between an acl and meniscus tear.
Further, you have failed to understand that not all meniscus injuries are the same and that some are complicated and some are not which accounts for various healing time frames.
You will have to pull your head out of your rear and try to justify why the Jags and their medical staff have a different interpretation of Jack and his medical condition than some other teams and answer why they see him as value in the top 5.
You are yet to provide me a reason why most reputable evaluators have had Jack in their top 5 during the entire draft process, some as their top prosepect overall or in the top 3 talent wise in this entire draft.
Some of the top evaluators still have Jack in their top 5 even with the mixed interpretations of his medical recheck, which is precisely why the Jags are said to be ready to draft him at 5!
The fact that teams are split on Jack and his recheck should inform you to withhold adjudication until you actually know what all 32 teams and their corresponding medical staff are thinking but we both know that you do not have such knowledge.
You know nothing John Snow and in your case you don't know Jack, Chachi!
You can appeal to random tweets that some teams are worried about Jack and to be fair some teams are accordingly.
However, I can show you other tweets that some teams are not concerned, this only proves the fact that there is ambiguity on the subject.
Arguing from assumption and ignorance based on ambiguity is a foolish proposition at best.
I have conceded that the Cowboys are probably not in the Jack market but mostly because they need a QB, Pass Rush and Secondary help the most and certainly coming off injury does not help.
The view of Jack as a prospect and his value is team relative, that means some teams view him as an elite talent and their medical staff does not interpret the injury as a long term deal breaker.
Other teams medical staff may see potential problematics down the road and are not willing to sign off on the risk early in the draft, it just depends on the team.
However, it only takes one team in the top 5 to see the value and who are not concerned with the injury long term.
What we do know is the Jags have showed a lot of interest in Jack even after the recheck and he is in the conversation for them at 5.
This stultifies your original arguments on the subject even if it is not the Cowboys who have the interest in Jack with respect to the top five because your logic was that of positional value and the injury.
If the Jags indeed draft Jack at 5 then they do not care about positional value because he is an elite talent and with reference to the injury, their medical staff does not view his injury as a long term deal breaker and are willing to take the risk.
Positional value goes out the door with elite prospects so that argument is ultimately futile.
If Jack indeed does go in the top 5 cupcake, you are going to be eating some serious crow! And Chachi and Joanie are not going to be able help you emotionally!
By the way, your Chachi obsession is disturbing:
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Nobody's going to touch Jack until the 3rd.
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Or skipping meaningless bowl games at the end of the season.
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I'd do a late 2nd or 3rd for him.
IF you get 5 to 7 quality years from him then it will be worth it.
Look at Ron Leary..
A team in win now mode is going to select him. I could see this being New Englands 1st pick in the 2nd round.
