Review of LB Anthony Hitchens against LSU

[MikeT22]

No way.

He's a flop.

I've read it here on this board.

Actually a reach

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Actually a reach

LOL!

Yeah that too!

 

[Risen Star]

LOL!

Yeah that too!

So then he wasn't a reach?

What is your opinion of the player?

And what was your opinion of him, say, on May 9th?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So then he wasn't a reach?

What is your opinion of the player?

And what was your opinion of him, say, on May 9th?

Oh I thought it was reach at the time.

I just don't go on yammering about it.

I'm willing to let things ride until we see what the player can contribute.

 

[tm1119]

Sorry but taking the time to do all that for the LSU game seems pretty much pointless if you ask me. When's the last time you've seen an NFL team lineup in I form and run the ball straight ahead 85% of the time? So what you evaluated here is that we drafted a 4th round LB who is capable of adequately defending the straight ahead run with little to no deception....great. Let me see this kid cover and play sideline to sideline and then maybe I'll be on board with the pick.

 

[Risen Star]

Oh I thought it was reach at the time.

I just don't go on yammering about it.

I'm willing to let things ride until we see what the player can contribute.

I think we all hope he manages to stick and at least fill a role, but that's kind of besides the point. A reach is a reach. It's not about just what you buy in the draft but when you buy as well. Nobody will ever convince me that Anthony Hitchens was anything more than a 7th round flyer or priority free agent. Even the Youtube scouting brigade can't change that.

The price of a 4th round pick was grossly over investing in the player. Our recent run of 4th rounders is concerning, to say the least. I mean, if you actually look at things fairly and not just mindlessly rubber stamp every decision the team makes.

 

[CATCH17]

No way.

He's a flop.

I've read it here on this board.

He may turn out to be the average backup that the Cowboys drafted him to be but we could've done better with that pick.

 

[jobberone]

I don't think speed has been a priority as of late. I am not saying that they need to take the Al Davis route and put speed over their playing ability, but I want to see more speed , especially in the secondary and with the LBs. I want the team to concentrate on the fastest players at their positions. I think the team has taken a "fast enough" approach with players and it has created a team with just average speed. I hope that changes.

Parcells used to say take the biggest fastest football player you can. I agree. Life is full of compromises. I agree completely with you. You need some speed on D as long as you have players and not just athletes; esp in this D.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So then he wasn't a reach?

What is your opinion of the player?

And what was your opinion of him, say, on May 9th?

What does random internet boards opinion have to do with anything? That includes you, btw.

Either it turns out he can play and contribute or it doesn't. His play on the field is what matters, not whatever you felt on May 9th.

 

[jobberone]

The first statement is either sarcasm or way out of line.

I think he's being sarcastic. Not an emoticonic person (made up word ) but at times they help.

 

[xwalker]

I don't disagree with wanting football players instead of athletes , but it has to be done within reason. One if the biggest problems on defense is the lack of speed. When they draft players, they should make sure that they are good athletes. There are too many players in this team that have borderline speed. I have used Church as an example before and I will again. Church is a player, but just think of how much better the defense would be if ayers like him had good speed. IIRC no was timed at 4.6 in the 40 before we drafted him. He has never been a fast CB. If I spend the 6th pick in the draft in a CB, he better have elite speed. The slower players are half a step behind at all times and that makes a weak defense even weaker. Speed should be at the top if the list of desirable traits that they look for in players. It worked well for the 90's Cowboy defenses.

Sean Lee
Height: 6021
Weight: 236
40 Yrd Dash: 4.71 (4.6 Pro Day)
10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 24

Anthony Hitchens
Height: 6003
Weight: 240
40 Yrd Dash: 4.71 (4.65 Pro Day)
10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 23

Morris Claiborne
40 Yrd Dash: 4.50 (4.43 Pro Day)

Barry Church
Weight: 222
40 Yrd Dash: 4.64

Jairus Byrd
40 Yrd Dash: 4.68

They now list Church at 218, but he said in an interview in training camp that he was at 212 and was now much faster than when he was over 220. He appeared visibly faster to me after the weight loss.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Even if Hitchens fails, I don't think that 'reach' is the right word. Reach to me implies that they had no LB on the board worth a flip and got a guy they rated at a lower round anyway.

Pierre and Smith were on their radar and rejected in favor of this guy. That is a failure in talent evaluation and not reaching within their board, assuming he flops of course.

 

[OhSnap]

The first statement is either sarcasm or way out of line.

(Just kiddin check his sig)

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Even if Hitchens fails, I don't think that 'reach' is the right word. Reach to me implies that they had no LB on the board worth a flip and got a guy they rated at a lower round anyway.

Pierre and Smith were on their radar and rejected in favor of this guy. That is a failure in talent evaluation and not reaching within their board, assuming he flops of course.

Yeah, that definition of the Hitchens' pick is more accurate.

 

[OhSnap]

Parcells used to say take the biggest fastest football player you can. I agree. Life is full of compromises. I agree completely with you. You need some speed on D as long as you have players and not just athletes; esp in this D.

"I've found that prayers work best when you have big players." - Knute Rockne

 

[jterrell]

This post is just absurd. How does this contribute to the conversation?

the absurdity was being too lazy to challenge any play at all.

 

[casmith07]

is that a requirement on this board now? I was not aware.

You get a like because you're right. Relevancy and even intelligence are not required.

 

[Risen Star]

Yeah, that definition of the Hitchens' pick is more accurate.

Not really. A reach is taking a guy way over their perceived value. If you want to excuse that by saying the team that selected him thought it was value, then there's never been a reach in the history of the league.

Why you would tie it to positions is beyond me. Any RB taken in the first round this year would have been a reach. Regardless of whether it was your top rated RB.

Here's the bottom line on Hitchens. If I had mocked him to the Cowboys before May 10th, not a single member here would have supported the pick. Now we have the usual suspects, you included, defending what they would have found indefensible before the pick was announced.

The best description for the Hitchens selection is "horrendous reach". Probably not the worst of the draft, I think Seattle's selection of Justin Britt at the bottom of the 2nd round may deserve that award, but that pick was one of the top 5 biggest reaches in the 2014 NFL Draft.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Not really. A reach is taking a guy way over their perceived value. If you want to excuse that by saying the team that selected him thought it was value, then there's never been a reach in the history of the league.

Why you would tie it to positions is beyond me. Any RB taken in the first round this year would have been a reach. Regardless of whether it was your top rated RB.

Here's the bottom line on Hitchens. If I had mocked him to the Cowboys before May 10th, not a single member here would have supported the pick. Now we have the usual suspects, you included, defending what they would have found indefensible before the pick was announced.

The best description for the Hitchens selection is "horrendous reach". Probably not the worst of the draft, I think Seattle's selection of Justin Britt at the bottom of the 2nd round may deserve that award, but that pick was one of the top 5 biggest reaches in the 2014 NFL Draft.

The eagles in 2 of their first 3 picks fits this criteria

 

[iceberg]

is that a requirement on this board now? I was not aware.

I kinda wish it was just to end trolling