Rewatched the Saints game

[dallasdave]

I may drink heavily during this game.

Smart man !!!

 

[YosemiteSam]

He dropped DE Jack Crawford in coverage on the RB while Lee blitzed in the Atlanta game and the RB caught the ball and had one of the biggest yardage gains of the game.

Are you saying someone got beat? Tell me something new.

You want to stop short quick passes. You blitz and run press. Or you zone blitz. Otherwise, you can just get your lunch eaten all day long.

Make a choice.

 

[starfrombirth]

No kidding, after the alt game fans went off on Weeden for the dinks and dunks. This game he still hit a lot of short passes but also went deep something some were claiming Weeden was incapable of. I guess Weeden is going to be ripped no matter what

Yeah ... well he missed a couple of open receivers deep as well that would have changed the game.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah ... well he missed a couple of open receivers deep as well that would have changed the game.

Can't hit them all, sorry I feel Weeden is playing fine, I don't see the issues the Cowboys are having as a Weeden problem I do see a defense who fails to tackle who allows a RB to be wideopen running untouched in OT. I think coaches will open things up a bit more for Weeden and hopefully with guys starting to come back on defense things will turn around.

 

[starfrombirth]

Can't hit them all, sorry I feel Weeden is playing fine, I don't see the issues the Cowboys are having as a Weeden problem I do see a defense who fails to tackle who allows a RB to be wideopen running untouched in OT. I think coaches will open things up a bit more for Weeden and hopefully with guys starting to come back on defense things will turn around.

If you can't see Weedon missing open receivers deep as a problem then you might have issue. Part of the reason that defenses creep up and stop the run and tackle the short passes is because he can't hit the deep receiver.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Brees did exactly what Weeden should have been doing. He threw 5 to 7 yard pick routes and out routes all game. Eventually the Cowboys rushers were exhausted. Why Weeden can't do that all game is beyond me. Without the ball control of the Romo led offense, this defense is in serious trouble.

The Patriots are going to do nothing but what Brees did all game long, only better.

Here's a preview of Brady's stats;

36-42 315 4TDs with a 2/3rds TOP edge.

He's going to have a 80% completion percentage throwing underneath to little WR's Carr will naturally play 10 yards off all game. Not very excited about this week.

the defense hs warts. I am no impressed with our LBs and Safties and that's why you can dink and dunk their way down the field against us......when we had lee in the game, it was different.

the concern is also the run defense, specially the second half.... missed tackles, missed angles, etc. that has nothing to do with passing.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you can't see Weedon missing open receivers deep as a problem then you might have issue. Part of the reason that defenses creep up and stop the run and tackle the short passes is because he can't hit the deep receiver.

he was not missing many passes nor has he since he took over. There is an issue and that is people who will not and have not given Weeden a chance. All you guys have done since he came to dallas is berate him and that is fine but it hard to look at something with a non bias view when your view point was made up a long time ago. Weeden thus far has helped not lead but helped this team. We put up 28 vs Alt we put up 20 vs NO. All I hear is he should do more yet the defense has played like crap they have done nothing to help an offense and the injury while they do effect the defense they still should be expected to do something.

 

[xwalker]

Are you saying someone got beat? Tell me something new.

You want to stop short quick passes. You blitz and run press. Or you zone blitz. Otherwise, you can just get your lunch eaten all day long.

Make a choice.

Give giving you a fact of something that actually happened.

 

[Clarkson]

Being a QB or coach in the NFL is so easy, internet message board posters can do it!
I would have done this, why did that professional coach do that?!
I would have thrown the ball like this, why did that professional QB throw it like that?!

 

[Clarkson]

Are you saying someone got beat? Tell me something new.

You want to stop short quick passes. You blitz and run press. Or you zone blitz. Otherwise, you can just get your lunch eaten all day long.

Make a choice.

this internet message board poster knows how to QB AND coach in the NFL!
do you have a job in the NFL yet?

 

[YosemiteSam]

this internet message board poster knows how to QB AND coach in the NFL!
do you have a job in the NFL yet?

Yes, I do.

 

[gimmesix]

I don't think we have pick routes in our playbook, its illegal so JG wouldn't even consider it

No, we have one where Witten mugs beats up a defender instead of making it look like an accident and we're usually called for it. Apparently, our belief is that the pick should be very obvious.

 

[conner01]

I don't think we have pick routes in our playbook, its illegal so JG wouldn't even consider it

Actually we run lots of pick routes
It's not illegal if ran correctly

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Because our fan base Weeden haters will say he is a dink and dunk QB.....

Yup.

And he's 7th in DVOA.

But, he must be terrible because STATS LIE LOLZ!

Some people just don't understand the game.





YR

 

[dfense]

ok, let me take a stab at this. Pick/rub routes, all routes for that matter, are called in by the OC. So if you want to the Cowboys to run pick/rub routes and/or out routes, that's on the OC and not Weeden. Unless he calls an audible. Weeden wasn't our problem in either game he played. Not sure why some of you want to put all/most of the blame on him.

I think i was directing this more at play calling than Weeden.

 

[BrassCowboy]

weeden can dink and dunk all day until teams adjust to stop it. I can stop writing here and fans can fill in the rest because coaches either are very poor at adjusting to opponents adjustments, or Weeden cannot do what the coaches are asking him to do to counter the opponents adjustments.

I mean we can make the argument that defense needs to step it up and stop opponents offense all day, but those are humans out there. If you cannot sustain a drive on offense giving your defense a rest, then yeah of course the defense will get tired. I mean it was tiring watching defense on the field for so long. They were getting tired both mentally and physically out there.
as far as those who think it is Weedens fault, well their are good arguments for both sides. One thing I do know is I do not worry when Romo is running this offense. Does anyone really trust Weeden to get the job done? not really, we are always talking like hopefully we can beat this team etc..... I mean New Orleans is not that good this year, it was the team we should have beat regardless of QB.

 

[starfrombirth]

he was not missing many passes nor has he since he took over. There is an issue and that is people who will not and have not given Weeden a chance. All you guys have done since he came to dallas is berate him and that is fine but it hard to look at something with a non bias view when your view point was made up a long time ago. Weeden thus far has helped not lead but helped this team. We put up 28 vs Alt we put up 20 vs NO. All I hear is he should do more yet the defense has played like crap they have done nothing to help an offense and the injury while they do effect the defense they still should be expected to do something.

You're confusing me with someone else. I haven't been one of those Weedon bashers. You can search my post history if you want. I'm not a huge supporter but I haven't been against him either. What I did notice is that in the 2.5 games that he has played THIS year, he has not been able to consistently challenge the deep field. Yes he hit Williams in the end zone on that TD but he missed 3 other potential game breaking plays in that game alone. The dialogue is that these receivers need to get open for him... well the opposite is also true in that when they get open, he needs to be able to hit them. Thats when things will open up for us underneath and that's when we stand a chance to win.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're confusing me with someone else. I haven't been one of those Weedon bashers. You can search my post history if you want. I'm not a huge supporter but I haven't been against him either. What I did notice is that in the 2.5 games that he has played THIS year, he has not been able to consistently challenge the deep field. Yes he hit Williams in the end zone on that TD but he missed 3 other potential game breaking plays in that game alone. The dialogue is that these receivers need to get open for him... well the opposite is also true in that when they get open, he needs to be able to hit them. Thats when things will open up for us underneath and that's when we stand a chance to win.

My apologies to you. I'm not claiming he has not missed some passes but he threw 3 over 19 yards on each and capped it off on a 4th down in the endzone in the final mins to put this team into OT. I don't think he has missed many of his targets. Weeden biggest problems since he came to the NFL has been decision making and I think a lot of the reason the coaches have kept things simple. He does not lack accuracy or arm strength what gets him in trouble is making poor reads. I think that is something you can work with and improve on.

 

[KJJ]

Must take some real intestinal fortitude and a couple of six packs to rewatch a disappointing Cowboys loss. Never done it and never will.

 

[silver]

Can't hit them all, sorry I feel Weeden is playing fine, I don't see the issues the Cowboys are having as a Weeden problem I do see a defense who fails to tackle who allows a RB to be wideopen running untouched in OT. I think coaches will open things up a bit more for Weeden and hopefully with guys starting to come back on defense things will turn around.

We've been spoiled with Romo since 2006. Had Weeden succeeded somebody like Quincy the fan reaction would've been different. Romo is the great deodorant that masks his teamates shortcomings. Weeden is just not as good yet. Although I fully expect him to get better and better as he gets more playing time.

This week will be different since our D gets a major shot in the arm with the reinforcements. It's a team sport, it's everybody that has to raise their level of play while Romo is out.