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[BigDFan5]

I know this question wasnt directed at me but I'll answer it. No I wouldnt.

I blame JJ for all this. He's had 6 years now to get a young QUALITY NFL QB. Instead he goes out and brings in MLB rejects on the cheap. It's been so bad for Cowboy fans that we actually try to convince each other that these guys are IT and none of them were/are.


I cant believe we actually debate/debated over these guys.

Which QB pver the past 6 years could we have gotten without making a big trade

 

[Little Jr]

They play for the Dallas Cowboys, right?

Why wouldn't we?

Well, I never say why there was ever a debate over Q and Hutch and they're both out of the league. Not trying to THUMP MY CHEST as you would call it but I was right. I see the same in Hensons future. Although if BP leaves after this year and I think he will, he'll probally hire another yes man and Henson will be the starting QB.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Shut it -

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:laugh2:

 

[Little Jr]

Which QB pver the past 6 years could we have gotten without making a big trade

If a trade is necessary to bring in a young qulity NFL QB then we should had done it. 6 years is plenty of time.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If a trade is necessary to bring in a young qulity NFL QB then we should had done it. 6 years is plenty of time.

The problem with that is there is no sure thing. It is a 'darn if you do' and 'darn if you don't' situation.

 

[BigDFan5]

If a trade is necessary to bring in a young qulity NFL QB then we should had done it. 6 years is plenty of time.

Who was readily availiable? what FA was there, or what QB at our draft pick?

 

[iceberg]

The problem with that is there is no sure thing. It is a 'darn if you do' and 'darn if you don't' situation.

and when aikman retired i said we'd go through our scrubs like the sweeny's, peulluers and hogebooms till we hit it again. 6 years? hell, there are some franchises who don't EVER get *that* type of a qb and we get upset if it's not in a few years. : )

 

[Little Jr]

Who was readily availiable? what FA was there, or what QB at our draft pick?

At out draft pick? None. Doenst mean we couldnt trade up to get any the QB's that have came out the past 6 years. We could had signed Delhomme. He would had been better than what we had/have.


If any of them would had failed I would had a lot more respect for JJ for at least trying oppose to getting MLB rejects on the cheap. In Hensons case we actually gave a 3rd for him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We could had signed Delhomme. He would had been better than what we had/have.

That is pure 20/20 hindsight right now. Any team could have signed him....not just the Cowboys. At that time, he was just another free agent QB. Who knew it would turn out to be pretty decent?

 

[BigDFan5]

At out draft pick? None. Doenst mean we couldnt trade up to get any the QB's that have came out the past 6 years. We could had signed Delhomme. He would had been better than what we had/have.

Personally I am not a Delhomme fan, and he is not better than bledsoe IMO.

But at the time Delhomme was a lifetime backup and we made an offer but didnt go higher for an unproven guy. Trading up takes draft picks for a few years we had no 1st's to trade up. other times would have taken future firsts to get up. Its easy to say just trade up but it takes alot and most times is not worth it.

If any of them would had failed I would had a lot more respect for JJ for at least trying oppose to getting MLB rejects on the cheap. In Hensons case we actually gave a 3rd for him.

But if they would have failed the team would be in horrible shape having given up multiple picks and future firsts to get someone who busted. JJ would be crucified

and in Hensons case he is developing and showing some progress. This is good for the Cowboys no matter what your personal opinion of him is.

But the moral of the story is you are mad JJ hasnt gotten a "real" QB in 6 years and yet you admit there were no real QBs to get.

 

[blindzebra]

The mistake wasn't the past 6 years, it was the 4 years before that in how we handled QB.

We had Aikman with big bucks, Garrett the very cheap 3rd guy/QB coach in training, and than a bunch of cut former starters like Peete, Kosar and Cunningham.

We needed to draft Aikman's replacement in 96-98, we didn't. We gave up draft picks for Galloway that could have been used on a young QB, forcing us to reach on Carter and hope for the next Warner-story with Hutchinson...Henson IS NOT the equivalent of Hutch, and it's agenda driven to keep making that comparison.

 

[cowboyeric8]

HH thinks he is something because he got All-District, lol, now thats funny. :laugh2:

HH, while you were giving Cunningham props we were actually watching the game, so please don't post your idiotic crap.

Thanks

 

[Little Jr]

That is pure 20/20 hindsight right now. Any team could have signed him....not just the Cowboys. At that time, he was just another free agent QB. Who knew it would turn out to be pretty decent?

Yes, another FA QB that at least had NFL experience. Not MLB experience.

 

[theebs]

I am uploading the video of henson right now...I will have it up either in about an hour or tomorrow morning.

 

[Little Jr]

Personally I am not a Delhomme fan, and he is not better than bledsoe IMO..

Well I think he as good. But I'm happy with Bledsoe right now. I was talking about young guys we could have had.

But at the time Delhomme was a lifetime backup and we made an offer but didnt go higher for an unproven guy. Trading up takes draft picks for a few years we had no 1st's to trade up. other times would have taken future firsts to get up. Its easy to say just trade up but it takes alot and most times is not worth it.

He was more porven than Hutch and Carter. More proven than Henson and we gave up a 3rd for him.

Had to edit this part. As far as NFL game experience goes he was not more proven than Carter. There were high school QB's I would had taken before Cater though.

But if they would have failed the team would be in horrible shape having given up multiple picks and future firsts to get someone who busted. JJ would be crucified.

At least he would had tried. He's being crucified now. Whats the difference.

and in Hensons case he is developing and showing some progress. This is good for the Cowboys no matter what your personal opinion of him is..

Like you stated, we have a difference of opinion on that one.

But the moral of the story is you are mad JJ hasnt gotten a "real" QB in 6 years and yet you admit there were no real QBs to get.

Where did I admit that at. I admitted there wanst any where we picked. Thats all I admitted.

 

[Little Jr]

The mistake wasn't the past 6 years, it was the 4 years before that in how we handled QB..

Couldnt agree more.

Henson IS NOT the equivalent of Hutch, and it's agenda driven to keep making that comparison.

Well, he is better than Hutch. But is that really saying much. As of right now he's done no more than Hutch did in the NFL.

 

[Concord]

Henson impressed me today.

Nice mobility and throwing on the move...Avoiding pressure...Hitting guys in stride...All nice things.

Not a stat day...But Henson played well today.

I really liked when he ran for the First down and dove for it...

 

[Rudy]

I just watched all of Henson's snaps, and It seemed as if almost all first half he never got a good hand on the ball off the snap. Did it seem like that to anyone else? The second half seemed to be fine, in that regard at least. I think Henson could be good, but he sure does advertise his strong arm with all those overthrows. He wasn't helped out too much by all those dropped passes, plus that offensive line seems to have some trouble pass blocking. I like that running back, Jackson.

 

[jja050575]

Yes, I'm a bit disappointed in Henson so far. His long passes are too tall/long.

Ya'll need to realize he only got to start playing with these people in the last two months. He didn't even know them before that. The more the team gels as the season goes on the better they will be.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Not a bad game........I taped it.......Henson had some impressive throws