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superpunk said:
In other news, Roger Staubach was WAYYYYYYYYYY overrated.

I mean, I never actually saw him play, but.....

When he retired, Staubach had the highest QB rating IN HISTORY, had been to 4 SBs and had won 2. In other words, numbers backed up his amazing career. You dont need to see him play to know how great he was.

Drew Henson just completed 50% of his passes (terrible no matter what league you are in). I dont need to see him play to know that isnt NFL QB worthy.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Drew Henson just completed 50% of his passes (terrible no matter what league you are in). I dont need to see him play to know that isnt NFL QB worthy.

Stats are garbage without context, because they don't take into consideration other factors such as dropped passes, tipped passes at the line, or great plays by the defender.

Agenda shrinks credibility.
 

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SultanOfSix said:
Agenda shrinks credibility.

Criticizing a player by looking purely at the stat sheet, while having not actually seen him play, obliterates credibility.
 

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Stats are garbage without context, because they don't take into consideration other factors such as dropped passes, tipped passes at the line, or great plays by the defender.

Agenda shrinks credibility.

:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.

You are so full of it. You don't want him to fail but no matter what he does you will dismiss it, You don't want him to succeed either
 

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Said it before...I'll say it again...


Anyone here who focuses on Henson's stats...to support him...or to detract from him...is engaging in total speculation.

It is my strong opinion that the Cowboys are looking at things other than stats.

If Henson puts up great numbers but does not perform well in the areas the Cowboys are evaluating, the numbers mean nothing.

The converse is true also.

We don't know how he is being evaulated...so judging his performance is pure speculation. Judging his performance by the numbers, IMO, is just silly.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.


Ya see, that's where you lose me.

He's still a part of the team because he must have shown SOMETHING...even if nothing more than raw potential.

They didn't invest a 3rd round pick...and a long contract because he has shown nothing.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
:lmao2:

I love how someone mentions the word "agenda" one day, and suddenly everyone begins throwing it around as if it meant something. The only agenda I have is wanting Dallas to win. If Drew Henson suddenly becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread, then fine, let him play, I dont want him to fail. Right now, hoever, he has shown nothing of value to this organization.
So, basically what you're saying then can be boiled down like this.

Bill Parcells is an idiot. Jerry Jones is an idiot. The Coaching staff of the Cowboys are idiots. The players on offense who say good things about him are idiots. The media who are talking about his potential are idiots. The Coaches in NFL Europe are idiots. You know all.

Gotcha.

:thumbup:

If you're going to bang your drum, you could at least try to play in tune.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
You are so full of it. You don't want him to fail but no matter what he does you will dismiss it, You don't want him to succeed either

WHAT THE HELL HAS HE DONE TO DESERVE PRAISE???????

He has played average at best in NFL Europe, has never shown anything in TC or the preseason, etc. PLEASE, tell what I am dismissing, because I dont anything to dismiss. He hasnt done anything.
 

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Hostile said:
So, basically what you're saying then can be boiled down like this.

Bill Parcells is an idiot. Jerry Jones is an idiot. The Coaching staff of the Cowboys are idiots. The players on offense who say good things about him are idiots. The media who are talking about his potential are idiots. The Coaches in NFL Europe are idiots. You know all.

Gotcha.

:thumbup:

If you're going to bang your drum, you could at least try to play in tune.

Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.
 

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Juke99 said:
Ya see, that's where you lose me.

He's still a part of the team because he must have shown SOMETHING...even if nothing more than raw potential.

They didn't invest a 3rd round pick...and a long contract because he has shown nothing.

I'm not taslking about what he COULD do, I'm talking about what he IS doing, which is flopping in the God forsaken NFL Europe.

No one is denying that he has some talent, but then again most NFL players do. It's the fact that he looks lost on the field, has done nothing if not get worse in the last 2 years, and isnt usiong whatever talent he may posses.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
WHAT THE HELL HAS HE DONE TO DESERVE PRAISE???????

He has played average at best in NFL Europe, has never shown anything in TC or the preseason, etc. PLEASE, tell what I am dismissing, because I dont anything to dismiss. He hasnt done anything.

Why do you praise Tony Romo? Even going as far as to making up stats to say he was better?

Henson has shown improvment in his game. He has shown good mobility and decision making. He has shown he can lead a team down field and can win.

These are all positive things yet here you are with the same agenda
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.

Henson asked to go to Europe he was not "sent"

Prove he isnt a bust? He is still on the team that pretty much solves it. Now LIST 100 reasons why he is number them 1-100 no repeats we will be waiting
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.

Dallas is going to give him time to develope regardless what you think which is why they gave him a contract that would allow time for development. As for bust then I take it Romo is a bust as well? I don't claim he is the savior that is way too early to know that but the same holds true about being a bust.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Bill Parcells seems to not like the guy too much, he didnt play him at all at the end of the disastorous 2004 season and he got no garbage time last season.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot, he made a mistake, and is now trying to save face by sending this guy to Europe on a hope and a prayer that he does well.

Again, show me something to prove he is not a complete bust at this point, and I'll show you 100 reasons why he is.
He's wearing a silver helmet with a blue star as opposed to searching for a job at this point.

Proof enough for me that the team and coaching staff don't agree with your assessment that he has shown nothing. If he had shown nothing he'd have been escorted off the Ranch already.

Don't bother with the 100 reasons you think he's a bust. I don't respect your opinions on football enough to bother reading it and I don't need to line a bird cage since I don't have any birds.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I'm not taslking about what he COULD do, I'm talking about what he IS doing, which is flopping in the God forsaken NFL Europe.

Just so we're abundantly clear on this, how much of Drew Henson's NFL Europe career have you watched again?
 

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BigDFan5 said:
Why do you praise Tony Romo? Even going as far as to making up stats to say he was better?

Henson has shown improvment in his game. He has shown good mobility and decision making. He has shown he can lead a team down field and can win.

These are all positive things yet here you are with the same agenda

Because Tony Romo not only improved from 2004 to 2005, as shown by his position as the #2 QB and his improvement in the preseason games, but Romo looks poised out on the field and doesnt look back to the sidelines after every word he says in the huddle.. Henson had his best preseason games in 2004, and has gotton progressively worse. Romo is CLEARLY the better QB right now, and is doing it with less talent than Henson.

Henson has not improved from 2004 to now.
 

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Nors, Hollywood Henderson, Banned_n_Austin, HeavyHitta31...the torch has been passed.
 
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