***Rip Garrett Thread***

[Picksix]

Our offense gave Detroit all the momentum. Our defense had absolutely shut them completely down prior to the two pick sixes. You actually going to argue against that? REally? Did you actually expect our defense to shut out an offensive team like Detroit for four quarters? The defense rose to the occasion and did their job. The offense did too, for 30 minutes. This loss is on Garrett and Romo, period.

Oh I see. So, our defense should only be expected to play well when everything is going well? After the 2 Int's, the offense drove down the field and got a FG. Then Detroit's offense (who hadn't been on the field much of the 3rd quarter), drove 80 yards in 5 plays (in under 2 minutes) for a TD. THAT'S when their offense started getting momentum. Good defenses don't allow that, no matter what their offense does. It's not like we kept going 3 and out, repeatedly putting the defense on the field at that point.

Yes, the offense blew it. No question about it. Romo went from being brilliant to being awful. But the defense went completely soft as well.

 

[mmillman]

three possessions why Romo is put into the position. Why throw higher risk stuff and on first down?

That said Romo needs to manage the game better and learn that it is ok to burn the clock and punt.

 

[Cochese]

What are we, 30th in the redzone? Ivy league brilliant attention to detail.

Yep still 30th. awesome jason.

 

[BourbonBalz]

After the opening possession in the second half when our offense started with great field position when their kicker fell on his ***, our offense put up a total of 3 points the rest of the way. You keep harping on the fact that our defense gave up some points in the second half, yet you seem to ignore that the offense **** the bed in the second half. You only give the defense credit for the first half, yet you give the offense a bye for basically doing nothing in the second half, other than gift wrap three scores for the Lions????? Terrific logic.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I'm not saying the D didn't give up the points but it all boils down to time and place. You have a team 27-3 and they have zero spark. Their own coach said they weren't in the game until the interception returns. If your coach and QB protect the ball when there is no momentum then they might have just stayed where they were. Once a free 14 are on the board their mindset is "we have a shot." The Lions said as much postgame. Then you start gioving them short fields and the D is having to bail out the offense. The last TD was off another horrible playcall/pass that game them another short field. All of this is reality. The Ds late play has to be looked at as a whole with what the offense and Romo did to keep putting a top offense in a position to comeback. That is football 101. The offense of Detroit doesn't get on a roll if they aren't give 2 TDs to put them in a position to be more aggressive vs coming back on their own for 4 scores.

You're absolutely 100% correct, but the Romo and Garrett apologists will never admit it (and by the way, I'm not one of the anti-Romo or anti-Garret crowd except for Garrett's play calling in given situations). I guess those guys expect our defense to pitch a shutout in order for us to win a game. Our defense basically held a very explosive Detroit team to 17 points and helped us to a 24 point lead, but they want the defense to share the blame for the loss. Ridiculous.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Oh I see. So, our defense should only be expected to play well when everything is going well? After the 2 Int's, the offense drove down the field and got a FG. Then Detroit's offense (who hadn't been on the field much of the 3rd quarter), drove 80 yards in 5 plays (in under 2 minutes) for a TD. THAT'S when their offense started getting momentum. Good defenses don't allow that, no matter what their offense does. It's not like we kept going 3 and out, repeatedly putting the defense on the field at that point.

Yes, the offense blew it. No question about it. Romo went from being brilliant to being awful. But the defense went completely soft as well.

No, they didn't. They played very well. You can't expect a shutout. Until the pick sixes, the defense had absolutely dominated Detroit from top to bottom. The bottom line is, if those picks didn't happen, we'd be celebrating a lopsided win. To think otherwise proves a lot about certain people.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Anybody that tries to deflect blame to the defense after watching a historic meltdown by our OC/HC and his QB is delusional.

I know there are Romo lovers out there but he is beyond defense any longer.

But we just have to live with him. he isn't going anywhere. This is just what he is. The frustrating part is Garrett may never learn that he has to be managed with a tight leash.

 

[Kevinicus]

I'm not saying the D didn't give up the points but it all boils down to time and place. You have a team 27-3 and they have zero spark. Their own coach said they weren't in the game until the interception returns. If yoru coach and QB protect the ball when there is no momentum then they might have just stayed where they were. Once a feree 14 are on the board their mindset is "we have a shot." The Lions said as much postgame. Then you start gioving them short fields and the D is having to bail out the offense. The last TD was off another horrible playcall/pass that game them another short field. All of this is reality. The Ds late play has to be looked at as a whole with what the offense and Romo did to keep putting a top offense in a position to comeback. That is football 101. The offense of Detrpoit doesn't get on a roll if they aren't give 2 TDs to put them in a position to be more aggressive vs coming back on their own for 4 scores.

Yes, if Garrett had done things differently the Cowboys probably win, if Romo doesn't throw the picks, the Cowboys probably win. I could go on all day with if this then that.

Facts: 1. The offense and defense played great the first 35 minutes and created a 27-3 lead. This lead is created by both sides of the ball. It couldn't have been done by one side alone. If Romo and the offense don't march the ball down the field over and over again, it's a much closer game. If the defense doesn't stop Detroit repeatedly it's a much closer game. They both did good there.

2. Romo has a couple of pick 6's. This makes the game a lot closer. There are definite mistakes here by Romo, possibly Robinson, and probably Garrett as well. The offense is not doing as well. Score is now 27-17 DALLAS.

3. Romo and the offense get things going again a little bit and add a FG, and now there are only 37 seconds left in the 3rd quarter, the defense is extremely rested since they've barely had to be on the field most of the game, particularly the 3rd qtr. Score is now 30-17 DALLAS.

4. The defense now also falls into complete collapse. Giving up a quick 80 yard TD drive in 2 minutes. They are able to force one punt, but on subsequent drives are unable to keep Detroit out of FG range (should Garrett have taken the penalty?) and are unable to hold Detroit as they march the last 40 yards for a win. 151 Yards, and 17 Pts allowed.

Did Romo make mistakes? Yes. Does Romo bear responsibility for the loss? Absolutely.

Does Garrett make mistakes? Of Course. Does he have responsibility for his decisions? Again Absolutely.

Were the Cowboys still in great position to win with a 13 pt lead going into the 4th quarter? Most definitely.

Did the defense step up and play like they had earlier or did they do what Romo and Garrett did and squander what was built up previously? Obviously the latter.

If we play the if game, we can still say, even after all of Romo's INTs, if the Defense had stepped up a little, made a couple of plays here or there that the Cowboys win the game.

The fact is simply that the 24 point lead could NOT be overcome without the defense playing a part.

I'm not saying not to blame Romo or Garrett, but just that you can't blame it JUST on them, and the defense fell apart as well. As well as the defense played early on in the game, Romo played just as great early. And as much as Romo fell apart late, so did the defense. It's a team game, they all are responsible. Just like if the defense gives up 30, the offense needs to score 31 or they're all responsible.

 

[newlander]

three possessions why Romo is put into the position. Why throw higher risk stuff and on first down?

That said Romo needs to manage the game better and learn that it is ok to burn the clock and punt.

...while I agree we should NEVER throw in that scenario, the bottom line is that's an EASY throw away. Most high school QB's know that's just a long air ball over the COVERED receiver's head: not Tony. Just like many times before he puts it up and hopes for the best: 50% on him, 50% on Red. Whomever said they are TERRIBLE for each other said it best. Red is the dealer and Romo is the addict. Just horrible for one another . A gunslinger and a pass happy head coach. I'll stick to the 7-9 prediction from 2 months ago: damn SAD because this team has 11-5 written all over it

 

[Kevinicus]

No, they didn't. They played very well. You can't expect a shutout. Until the pick sixes, the defense had absolutely dominated Detroit from top to bottom. The bottom line is, if those picks didn't happen, we'd be celebrating a lopsided win. To think otherwise proves a lot about certain people.

They played very well for TWO quarters. This is a 4 quarter game. And if the defense has played well in the 4th quarter we'd be celebrating a win, very possibly a double digit win. To think otherwise...

Of course if you went by what Aikman was saying, Detroit had open guys all day but Stafford was either not seeing them or just off target. But I dunno, I just get the angles TV shows me.

They played very well for TWO quarters.

 

[Picksix]

three possessions why Romo is put into the position. Why throw higher risk stuff and on first down?

That said Romo needs to manage the game better and learn that it is ok to burn the clock and punt.

Well, for one, when there's still 11 minutes left in the 3rd, you don't let up. Still way too much time. If you end up going conservative, getting away from your game plan, then it's like letting the other guy off the ropes. Green Bay got up big on Denver today, and kept throwing it, because that's what they do. Do you really have enough confidence in our running game that they can control a game for over a quarter and a half?

Second, look at the 2 INT's. The first one, Romo got baited. The Lions put nine men in the box, with Dez one on one out on the edge. Looked like an easy pitch and catch. But then Carpenter peeled back, got in the lane, and picked it off. That's on Romo, because he has to see that, and either throw the ball out of bounds, or at least throw it where only Dez can get it. Unfortunately, he lets that happen too often. But the play itself wasn't risky, just poorly executed.

The second pick was a simple slant, a play in which Robinson was owning the DB's to that point. Maybe it was because he was shaken up a couple plays earlier, or maybe Houston just made a good play, but Robinson doesn't drive on the cut. Romo hesitated, but then tried to force it...again. Just like before, not a risky play in and of itself, just very poorly executed.

 

[UVAwahoos]

...while I agree we should NEVER throw in that scenario, the bottom line is that's an EASY throw away. Most high school QB's know that's just a long air ball over the COVERED receiver's head: not Tony. Just like many times before he puts it up and hopes for the best: 50% on him, 50% on Red. Whomever said they are TERRIBLE for each other said it best. Red is the dealer and Romo is the addict. Just horrible for one another . A gunslinger and a pass happy head coach. I'll stick to the 7-9 prediction from 2 months ago: damn SAD because this team has 11-5 written all over it

With proper coaching, this team could easily be 4-0 and definitely looking at 11 wins overall. I can't believe we're sitting at 2-2 and people on here still vehemently defending Garrett. It's so clear how he's costing us wins. He can take his ginger tecmo bowl playbook and shove it.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Not all of it. Garret deserves alot of blame as offensive coordinator. You're up 24 points why are you calling so many pass plays?

 

[Cochese]

With proper coaching, this team could easily be 4-0 and definitely looking at 11 wins overall. I can't believe we're sitting at 2-2 and people on here still vehemently defending Garrett. It's so clear how he's costing us wins. He can take his ginger tecmo bowl playbook and shove it.

If this guy was half as good as his delusional fanbois think he is , were 4-0 and dont have a league worst redzone offense.


This is shaping up to be another smashing Jerry Jones decision.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Dude is a PUPPET!

All this "the best players play on gameday" crapola, like Redball really has the final say LOL- that is amazingly gullable and funny to watch.

 

[Nirvana]

He is a great head coach we just need somebody calling plays in the booth.

If Tony Sparano gets fired, he should be hired as Assistant HC/OC immediately.

 

[Beast_from_East]

In game management blame all the way
ALL THE WAY

Almost any other coach doesn't do to their QB what Garrett did today

3rd qrt 27-3

Romo up to that point did all on offesne that was needed to walk out of there with a win

There is no other call but -----

Get the ball
1st down - run
2nd down - run
If there is a 3rd down, probably pass, but maybe even run
4th down - Punt and let the D that has only given up 3 pts go to work

You do this over and over again
Det makes it 27-10
Guess what Garrett --- you do it again
I mean, you do this until it is 27-17 if it even gets there

Milk the clock to death !
That team had no momentum down that much with our D putting the clamps on
17-6 is different then you can get mad at coaches for playing not to lose but 27-3
C'mon man the game is pretty much done

WHY ARE WE PASSING ON 1ST AND 10 UP 27-3 ?
When you are up by this much and their offense is doing nothing sometimes the best coaching decisions are the ridiculously obvious ones
C'mon man !

Romo won the game up to that point!
You run the ball and let that man coast until he is needed again
Why put him in the position to pass on 1st down up 27-3

"I'll get them with a playaction here!"

:bang2:

BEST POST IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD!!!!!

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Buddy Ryan would be looking to punch an offensive coach in the face.

Buddy Ryan was sort of a chump though. He had a terrible demeanor. I don't think Rob has the same sort of mulish bedside manner.

 

[bevo11]

I wish rob ryan was our head coach

 

[landryscorner]

Oh oh I was looking for this Thread...

Rage in 5...4.....3.....2....1....

HOW the hell do you game plan for a game when your UP by 24 PTS...
well let's take a gander into Garrett's Playbook....

Let's see up by 24 pts....let Romo Fling it around like he's Brett Farve in the
1995 NFC Championship game...

Oh and let's not run the ball or throw short passes like the west coast offense
cause that won't get us more points....(our running game sucks)

IT's TOO late to fire him as OC who else do we bring in????

This guy is CLUELESS and let me tell you why...IT HAS been a DAM long time
since the Cowboys were up by 24 points a LONG dam time....so Garrett was totally lost out there in his playcalling in the 3rd/4th qtrs,,

Hey howbout giving the team some breathing room at the endzone heading towards our field by running, just in case ROMO throws an INT they won't run it back for a TD.....OH NO let's just pass pass for no regard to ROmo's errant ways.....Freaking #$##%$#% Garrett should get blasted all over the media today but instead ROMO will get most of the blame...they SHOULD both get the blame.....

IF they would of Put KITNA in at 3rd QTR and benched ROMO this game would of been won...I bet if ROMO would of got benched he would of agreed "take me out coach" BS BS BSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

This team is stupid.