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It was reported when McClay got the promotion that he would be more tolerant of borderline character players but would be less tolerant of injury risk players.

Also, now that Garrett has had years to purge the non-RKGs and build a roster full of RKGs, it's much easier to add an occasional character risk player.

When Garrett inherited a roster with a horrible locker-room mentality, he had to over-focus on adding RKGs and purging the over-entitled, under-disciplined over paid underachievers that were the definition of the Wade Phillips era.

That's an important point that will be lost on most folks on this board. You get a critical mass of RKGs and you create an atmosphere where to be on the team you need to follow their lead. You are providing guys with a roster full of good influences.

A team like New England has moved to get guys like Corey Dillon, Randy Moss, and Aqib Talib - all guys with major red flags and they guys pretty much behaved themselves and produced, likely because they had so many good character guys on the team.
 

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I believe Nick Saban is largely behind this move. Garrett is close to Saban, and I'll bet McClain was recommended by Saban as a player worth the risk.

That, and we need a dadgum linebacker in the worst way.

It would be interesting to know how much contact Saban had with Mclain recently. Mclain did re-enroll at Alabama to finish his degree, so he was in the area.
 

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It would be interesting to know how much contact Saban had with Mclain recently. Mclain did re-enroll at Alabama to finish his degree, so he was in the area.

McClain, despite his problems, made good grades in college. This dude sounds like an enigma wrapped in a riddle.
 

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McClain, despite his problems, made good grades in college. This dude sounds like an enigma wrapped in a riddle.

I don't think there is a riddle here. He's a guy who likely has some mental health issues. His mother had them and there are strong genetic components to most mental illnesses. He entered the NFL around the age such issues tend to emerge. This stuff is treatable.
 

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I don't think there is a riddle here. He's a guy who likely has some mental health issues. His mother had them and there are strong genetic components to most mental illnesses. He entered the NFL around the age such issues tend to emerge. This stuff is treatable.


sometimes its treatable and sometimes its not
 

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You mean the Right Kind of Guy isn't a guy that has no talent, isn't a good teammate, and just shows up for his check... Wow, JG is a genius...

Does anybody remember when the Garrett-homers were fawning when he didn't allow Marion Barber to 'start', because he wasn't wearing a tie. How they were telling us Garrett's concept of the RKG is a guy that he is a goodie-goodie? I bet you that happened before 2012 when this interview was done.
 

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BTW, Dante Hall tells us that Deasean Jackson is the RKG they need in the locker room.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...n-jackson-is-right-kind-of-guy-for-Commanders

"He's the right kind of guy we need in our locker room," Hall told USA Today in a text. "Fierce competitor and player, but great guy and humble guy that wants nothing more then to show people the real him. And there's no better place then in the nation's Capitol."

Maybe Dante Hall should be our next coach, because he sounds just like Jason Garrett does. And apparently that ability to 'talk' a 'good talk' shows progress and a plan and great head coaching ability.
 

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CL, it sounds like you have a sour stomach.....what you need is a good satisfying game of cards

Nope, I feel fine... But the truth is that "RKG" has become so distorted that it literally is a buzzword to approve of anyone we bring in anymore.

I mean, this guy has multiple arrests, he's quit twice because he didn't want to play, he told Nick Saban to *** himself... But because we've signed him, he's a RKG.

So this guy who two teams found so worthless they cut him or now gave him away for a sandwich is okay, but guys like Choice and Gurode were cancers because they made funny videos or had a surgery in July. It's an absolute joke.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/14/marion-barber-violates-jason-garretts-dress-code/

The comments about what Jason Garrett was now bringing to the Cowboys just says it all. Got to love all the waffling by his fan-boys...

"so who are they pissed at? Barber or Garrett?
Time to follow the rules boys!"

"Hmmm trouble in Dallas or en route to the game, changing the culture indeed! “How ’bout them Cowboys?” Heh"

"make a statement and send his *** back to the hotel. Barber has not been special anyway and he just gave garrett an opportunity to teach the team some discipline"

"It’s about discipline. It’s about being a professional and looking like one. If you look like a slob, you will be play like a slob. Show you care by not being a slob. And show you will listen to the head coach by following the rules, even if you disagree and think the rule is stupid. If you question the coach on stupid rules, you will question anything. Then, there goes the game."

"Bingo.

Challenging the new coach in week one is a clear indication of where Barber’s coming from."
 

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Nope, I feel fine... But the truth is that "RKG" has become so distorted that it literally is a buzzword to approve of anyone we bring in anymore.

I mean, this guy has multiple arrests, he's quit twice because he didn't want to play, he told Nick Saban to *** himself... But because we've signed him, he's a RKG. It's a joke.

I always saw "RKG" as a blanket statement or catch phrase, so I never took it literally and really didn't care for it.
 

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People say RKG like it's some over arching philosophy. Like a guy can make it on the team if he stinks, but is a RKG - or conversely - that a skilled player won't make the team because he's not a RKG.

Garrett says it himself, "Obviously they have to have the physical requirements to play this game. The measurable, the talent, the aptitude to play. Part of that is being "The Right Kind Of Guy."

You can file RKG right where you'd file 40 time or instict. It's one of many factors in player evaluation. Being deficient in any one (including being a RKG) does not mean you won't wear a star on your helmet.
 

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Nope, I feel fine... But the truth is that "RKG" has become so distorted that it literally is a buzzword to approve of anyone we bring in anymore.

I mean, this guy has multiple arrests, he's quit twice because he didn't want to play, he told Nick Saban to *** himself... But because we've signed him, he's a RKG.

So this guy who two teams found so worthless they cut him or now gave him away for a sandwich is okay, but guys like Choice and Gurode were cancers because they made funny videos or had a surgery in July. It's an absolute joke.

Not sure if your referring to the OP, but to be clear, I never said McClain was an RKG - that was not my intent at all. I simply wanted to make sure people understood what RKG is and isn't. To quickly recap:

An RKG is someone who plays with passion - that's a big question McClain will have to answer.
An RKG is someone who is will to put in the work on and off the field; in the film room and on the practice field - another big question for McClain.
An RKG is someone who is a team player - and yet another question.

An RKG, however, doesn't have to be a choirboy, boyscout, or countryclub member . I just wanted to make sure that was clear, before futher discussion, as you said, distorted the meaning.
 

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That's an important point that will be lost on most folks on this board. You get a critical mass of RKGs and you create an atmosphere where to be on the team you need to follow their lead. You are providing guys with a roster full of good influences.

A team like New England has moved to get guys like Corey Dillon, Randy Moss, and Aqib Talib - all guys with major red flags and they guys pretty much behaved themselves and produced, likely because they had so many good character guys on the team.

And Aaron Hernandez, despite being the starting TE, shot somebody while still being a Patriot.. The Patriots put up with them, because they had talent.
 

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Not sure if your referring to the OP, but to be clear, I never said McClain was an RKG - that was not my intent at all. I simply wanted to make sure people understood what RKG is and isn't. To quickly recap:

An RKG is someone who plays with passion - that's a big question McClain will have to answer.
An RKG is someone who is will to put in the work on and off the field; in the film room and on the practice field - another big question for McClain.
An RKG is someone who is a team player - and yet another question.

An RKG, however, doesn't have to be a choirboy, boyscout, or countryclub member . I just wanted to make sure that was clear, before futher discussion, as you said, distorted the meaning.

So a RKG in another coach's speak other than Garrett's is one who doesn't play with passion, somebody who doesn't put work on the field, and somebody who doesn't play for the team but himself... got it..
 

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People say RKG like it's some over arching philosophy. Like a guy can make it on the team if he stinks, but is a RKG - or conversely - that a skilled player won't make the team because he's not a RKG.

Garrett says it himself, "Obviously they have to have the physical requirements to play this game. The measurable, the talent, the aptitude to play. Part of that is being "The Right Kind Of Guy."

You can file RKG right where you'd file 40 time or instict. It's one of many factors in player evaluation. Being deficient in any one (including being a RKG) does not mean you won't wear a star on your helmet.

Yeah, and if we are talking about a 1st round pick you should get a high character guy like Martin. Other situations you settle for a little less.
 

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Nope, I feel fine... But the truth is that "RKG" has become so distorted that it literally is a buzzword to approve of anyone we bring in anymore.

I mean, this guy has multiple arrests, he's quit twice because he didn't want to play, he told Nick Saban to *** himself... But because we've signed him, he's a RKG.

So this guy who two teams found so worthless they cut him or now gave him away for a sandwich is okay, but guys like Choice and Gurode were cancers because they made funny videos or had a surgery in July. It's an absolute joke.

Yep. "RKG" means whatever is convenient at the time in order to justify an acquisition.
 

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People say RKG like it's some over arching philosophy. Like a guy can make it on the team if he stinks, but is a RKG - or conversely - that a skilled player won't make the team because he's not a RKG.

Garrett says it himself, "Obviously they have to have the physical requirements to play this game. The measurable, the talent, the aptitude to play. Part of that is being "The Right Kind Of Guy."

You can file RKG right where you'd file 40 time or instict. It's one of many factors in player evaluation. Being deficient in any one (including being a RKG) does not mean you won't wear a star on your helmet.

Not true... RKG is such a broad-sweeping term that it covers everything. It includes talent and measurables, includes passion and work ethic, it includes playing for the team. Meaning it's just essentially coach-speak which has no real meaning.
 

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So a RKG in another coach's speak other than Garrett's is one who doesn't play with passion, somebody who doesn't put work on the field, and somebody who doesn't play for the team but himself... got it..

Is today opposite day? I didn't get the memo.
 
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