RKG Definition

[Hostile]

Actually I said

It's the same thing. You have no time for them, but the team does.

 

[DallasEast]

This thread will have underperformed if it does not attract enough misinterpretations of RKG to push it beyond ten pages.

We're at 122 posts, people! 200 posts constitutes the baseline! Let's pick up the pace!

 

[Tawney88]

I can agree with you to a certain extent on this; it all begins and ends with Jerry Jones. If you feel more comfortable blaming Jerry for the injuries, the in-game management struggles of Garrett, the interceptions thrown by Romo, and the whole host of mistakes made by personnell within the organization from top to bottom simply by merit of the fact that he is at the top, I'll leave you to it. But that is the definition of being simplistic.

I didn't blame him for injuries but lack of depth to compensate for injuries. Absolutely blame the struggles of Garrett on him he hired the coach. In fact said he was the coach in waiting when he hired Wade. He meddles in coaching affairs and who makes the team, it's ridiculous how involved he is with things he shouldn't be involved in and doesn't have the skill set to help.

The guy tells me he is in charge of everything from socks to jocks. He also tells me he has the last say on anything and everything that happens with this team. If I Ignore him as the biggest culprit for my teams lack of success, I'm being willfully ignorant.

 

[Tawney88]

It's the same thing. You have no time for them, but the team does.

Lol
It doesn't but you can have the last word.

 

[jday]

I don't think so, I think fans put to much into it. Belicheck has talked about getting the RKG as well, it does not always work out as we saw with Hernandez. If Dallas was winning this would likely not even come up but since people want to slam Garrett they will find any and everything they can to complain about. If that annoys you then you get annoyed very easily. As for me all I care about it winning, if he can get this team winning and into post season I'm happy, if they go 8-8 out of the playoffs or a losing season then he needs to be fired but not because his pressers or good or bad. Hell Landry was nothing to write home about as he would butcher players names

I agree with you on some points you made above. But firing Garrett for another mediocre to losing season alone would be a mistake in my opinion. Now, if you can prove he is directly responsible by merit of more in -game management mistakes and/or his players quit on him alla Wade, then I might be with you. But given the state of that defense, I think we can all agree, this season could go either way, regardless if Jason does a good job or not. What if Romo is injured? Do you honestly expect Weeden to take this team to the playoffs?

The thing is, despite his many mistakes, I do like the direction of this team. Furthermore, it seems as though we finally have a coach that has Jerry listening and acting accordingly and who is also willing to check his ego at the door and allow this team to evolve. Wade was willing to check is ego, but he was a "yes" man to a fault. Parcells was great at building a team and he had Jerry's ear, but he was incapable of moving away from Marty-ball. Jason, I believe, is slowly but surely improving this team, getting younger, Jerry's not handing out stupid contracts, so, ultimately, I think with a little patience they are building towards something good. No, I honestly don't believe we are going to see these changes manifest themselves in a positive way this season - but given one more round of Free Agency and Draft, this team could be special.

 

[jday]

I didn't blame him for injuries but lack of depth to compensate for injuries. Absolutely blame the struggles of Garrett on him he hired the coach. In fact said he was the coach in waiting when he hired Wade. He meddles in coaching affairs and who makes the team, it's ridiculous how involved he is with things he shouldn't be involved in and doesn't have the skill set to help.

The guy tells me he is in charge of everything from socks to jocks. He also tells me he has the last say on anything and everything that happens with this team. If I Ignore him as the biggest culprit for my teams lack of success, I'm being willfully ignorant.

I'll agree with you on one thing - Jerry the GM should have been fired years ago.

But based on the type of moves this organization has been making as of late, I think there's reason to have hope for the future. Considering this defense finished dead last compared to the rest of the league and the loss of Hatcher and Ware, it's a bit much to expect immediate returns in the upcoming season. But if they stay the course of not handing out stupid contracts and continue with the youth movement, we should start to see improvement as the year progresses. Given another good round of Free Agency and Draft, this team could be true contender...if that makes me "willfuly ignorant" so bet it. In my mind, that is a big part of being a fan.

 

[xwalker]

I am glad that the old dline is now gone. Spears always seemed envious concerned with what the other guy got or was doing; he always struck me as one who would point the finger in the locker room at anyone but himself. Hatcher did as well and was markedly selfish. We know what happened with Ratliff and his betrayal.

Agree.

 

[visionary]

Seriously. There's only ever been one clear definition. People keep misunderstanding it, second guessing what the team does because they misunderstand it, and then conclude the definition has changed.

No matter how many times it's explicitly quoted, it just gets ignored. And then we Groundhog Day this stupid topic another time.

We just have to stop signing these choir boy RKGs and select players that can actually play

 

[jday]

We just have to stop signing these choir boy RKGs and select players that can actually play

The fact that you you coined the phrase "choir boy RKG's" suggest that you are one of the many who are guilty of ignoring the actual definition. See OP for clarification.

 

[visionary]

Not sure, but I would say that teams will look the other way based on potential...look at the #1 pick of the Texans....he DID have that helmet-removing hit over two years ago...and then basically took a year off waiting for his pay-day...but, he DOES have potential

I can understand posters like Idgit and Hos responding as they have because their collective football egoes are tied to the "garret is the next Landry" imaginarium, you however are not

Point is that this RKG stuff is just usual basic coach speak that every coach wants in their players, and does not indicate anything special about Garrett's method or process or vision ...... Every peewee coach says the same stuff

Good coaches are ones that are able to convert those words into tangible results

When Garrett spouts it, it becomes a cult following because garret groupies have nothing else (you know, like actual results ) to hold on to

 

[Moderately_Askew]

We just have to stop signing these choir boy RKGs and select players that can actually play

The cognitive dissonance is quite amazing. It has been defined ad nauseam, I suggest reading through this thread once more.

 

[visionary]

The cognitive dissonance is quite amazing. It has been defined ad nauseam, I suggest reading through this thread once more.

I bet when you composed the post you thought it was pretty smart ... Actually it's not

I would suggest reading my post above

 

[Bullflop]

I don't see how it's a departure. You take a guy who supposedly once had that "passion for football", who admitted he hit a rough spot after he was drafted (article on ESPN about it all), and now after time away his agent says "He sounds as excited about football as I've ever heard him". Now if he comes in sucks, plays like he doesn't care, clashes with everyone, etc AND they still keep him on the 53 then yeah, maybe you can call it a departure. Until then, it's no more a departure than the Beasley situation a couple years ago.

To my thinking the departure from this team seeking RKGs came simply by McClain's history being what it is. After all, he has abandoned his teams twice saying his passion for football was gone. Since having a passion of the game was one of the prime requirements for the RKG tag, it's natural to be concerned about the possibility that his return may well be based upon the need for money and the lack of it away from the sport.

That doesn't mean I'm not hopeful McClain has changed his thinking but his past DOES generate concern. Hopefully, he'll find a way to reestabish that fervor that has left him in his not-so-distant past. What his agent says simply means his agent is doing what he's paid to do, which is to support his client. If McClain has truly changed, the burden of proof is for him to prove it's so. He'll get that chance, despite what his recent history indicates is justifiable cause for concern. He'd best make the most of it. Everyone deserves a second change but the third one usually comes with at least some degree of trepidation and concern.

 

[BigStar]

In ways your right, what is said by Garrett or any coach is meaningless it is about winning. No one would care at all about Garrett and the RKG comments if they were winning, it only becomes yet another thing to complain about when your not winning

Or an 8-8 coach speaking as if his "method=coaching 101" is some constructed continued course of "progress?" is just as grating on the nerves (to fans). RKG is basically so intentionally vague that it fits "any player" the team picks up once you work around with his "broad variables"...

 

[DanteEXT]

To my thinking the departure from this team seeking RKGs came simply by McClain's history being what it is. After all, he has abandoned his teams twice saying his passion for football was gone. Since having a passion of the game was one of the prime requirements for the RKG tag, it's natural to be concerned about the possibility that his return may well be based upon the need for money and the lack of it away from the sport.

That doesn't mean I'm not hopeful McClain has changed his thinking but his past DOES generate concern. Hopefully, he'll find a way to reestabish that fervor that has left him in his not-so-distant past. What his agent says simply means his agent is doing what he's paid to do, which is to support his client. If McClain has truly changed, the burden of proof is for him to prove it's so. He'll get that chance, despite what his recent history indicates is justifiable cause for concern. He'd best make the most of it. Everyone deserves a second change but the third one usually comes with at least some degree of trepidation and concern.

Fair enough. I'll just say from my perspective I don't have concern since the team loses nothing if he doesn't reestablish that passion. The seeds of doubt have definitely been sown by his past actions that's for sure.

 

[Idgit]

I can understand posters like Idgit and Hos responding as they have because their collective football egoes are tied to the "garret is the next Landry" imaginarium, you however are not

Point is that this RKG stuff is just usual basic coach speak that every coach wants in their players, and does not indicate anything special about Garrett's method or process or vision ...... Every peewee coach says the same stuff

Good coaches are ones that are able to convert those words into tangible results

When Garrett spouts it, it becomes a cult following because garret groupies have nothing else (you know, like actual results ) to hold on to

If you can't win an argument on merit, mischaracterize the other guy's take and hope nobody pays too much attention.

 

[DallasEast]

Whatever happened to accepting the true meaning of something? Why must an accurate definition be intentionally convoluted?

 

[Risen Star]

You said you have "no time" for players you haven't seen anything from. It's a common theme for us as fans to think we know more about talent than the team.

I know more about talent than the GM and VP of Personnel on this team.

 

[Hostile]

I know more about talent than the GM and VP of Personnel on this team.

Congratulations. I guess.

 

[Risen Star]

I'll agree with you on one thing - Jerry the GM should have been fired years ago.

But based on the type of moves this organization has been making as of late, I think there's reason to have hope for the future. Considering this defense finished dead last compared to the rest of the league and the loss of Hatcher and Ware, it's a bit much to expect immediate returns in the upcoming season. But if they stay the course of not handing out stupid contracts and continue with the youth movement, we should start to see improvement as the year progresses. Given another good round of Free Agency and Draft, this team could be true contender...if that makes me "willfuly ignorant" so bet it. In my mind, that is a big part of being a fan.

A big part of being a fan is being willfully ignorant?

Maybe that's the problem. I think you can loyally align yourself with a team while not giving up your ability to use your brain.