Robert Brewster?

Chief;3490558 said:
THe only problem is you can't make a guy into a great athlete.

Free had natural ability when he arrived. Sparano mentioned that he was a natural LT in his first camp. We could all see how well he could move. He just needed to get stronger and learn the nuances of the position.

Brewster is not a great athlete.

Most RTs aren't great athletes, in fact some of the worst built Lineman that I have ever seen either played RT or RG.
 
Perceptions are based on expectations. Brandon Williams got a "meh" response from Wade, even though he was active and picked off a pass and almost took it to the house, because Wade has really high expectations for him that Brandon didn't meet.

The fact that Wade is singing Brewsters praises after that lackluster performance tells me the coaches were afraid he was going to be a complete and total trainwreck. Either that or he's Houck's pet cat.
 
adbutcher;3490205 said:
If he did he would have thought he should have been fired by now.

The forum knows all and it is especially accurate with its snap judgements.

Most of the forum could tell from Brad Johnson's preseason performances that he was washed up a long time ago and had the arm strength of a 10 year old girl, which is more than we can say for our all-knowing coaching staff.
 
Apluz;3490414 said:
On the stunts Brewster played them perfectly.... the fist one that put pressure on the QB Brewster slid over and behind the guard and was in perfect position to pick the guards man up but the guard never released him to pick up the man stunting around him. A few plays later the guard didn't slide a 2nd time so Brewster tried to chase the DE stunting inside down the LOS. Brewster may have looked bad to some on those plays but he was assignment sound while the interior linemen were not.



Brewster

Beat cleanly to outside by Frostee Rucker (#92) on his first play …Alex Barron was also beat and his guy caused kitna to fumble the ball.

Brewster playing LT…fell down on running play matched up against Pat Sims (#90)

On next play Brewster failed to pick up stunt with defensive player getting in McGee face.

On next play…Brewster picks up wrong guy (picks up the blitzing linebacker – who Choice should be picking up) allowing DE Michael Johnson (#93) to get a easy sack. Choice gives Brewster some words after the play.

Failed to get his hands on DE Johnson who stunted inside and hit McGee as he tried to scamble.

Brewster did start to play better midway into 3rd quarter.

Brewster is kind of opposite of Barron in that he has good base…but once defender forces him to go right or left he ends up reaching for defender because he lacks lateral quickness due to his weight distribution…notice I didn’t say size because Brewster is listed at 320 (same weight as Free who is 2 inches taller)…it just that too much of Brewster weight is in his belly..which really affects his ability to move laterally.

** Will Barker who replaced Brewster in 4th quarter didn’t get beat…I hadn’t noticed that the first time I watched.
 
InmanRoshi;3490586 said:
Perceptions are based on expectations. Brandon Williams got a "meh" response from Wade, even though he was active and picked off a pass and almost took it to the house, because Wade has really high expectations for him that Brandon didn't meet.

The fact that Wade is singing Brewsters praises after that lackluster performance tells me the coaches were afraid he was going to be a complete and total trainwreck. Either that or he's Houck's pet cat.

:hammer:
 
TheCount;3490561 said:
He's not a great anything, I still don't understand why we drafted him. .


George Hegamin ?

On a more serious note, I think it's too early and this was the guy's first live action in 2 years, so there's that. Having said that, I didn't like what I saw either. He looked fat. He looked soft. He looked slow.

I was more impressed with Sam Young # 76( whom I will admit right now, will probably eat my words because I was complaining as loud as anybody about how much of a stiff he was ), Mike Tepper #62, and Will Barker #73, than I was with Brewster. I thought those 3 showed aggressiveness and willing to hit somebody, even if they made mistakes.

Perhaps Brewster was overthinking, trying to get the right technique down along with his assignment, instead of just going out there and letting his natural abilities take over. Perhaps now that he has his first game under his pads, will come out this weekend and show improvement.

We'll see.
 
Randy White;3490813 said:
George Hegamin ?

On a more serious note, I think it's too early and this was the guy's first live action in 2 years, so there's that. Having said that, I didn't like what I saw either. He looked fat. He looked soft. He looked slow.

Perhaps Brewster was overthinking, trying to get the right technique down along with his assignment, instead of just going out there and letting his natural abilities take over. Perhaps now that he has his first game under his pads, will come out this weekend and show improvement.

We'll see.

I would fall more in line with your thinking RW. A big knock on him coming out of college was the need to build muscle mass instead of "mass". Due to his injury, he only started his upper body conditioning around March if memory serves. If we kept McQ this long, we might as well invest some time in a kid that could get better. Follow the Landry Rule.
 
Randy White;3490813 said:
I was more impressed with Sam Young # 76( whom I will admit right now, will probably eat my words because I was complaining as loud as anybody about how much of a stiff he was ), Mike Tepper #62, and Will Barker #73, than I was with Brewster. I thought those 3 showed aggressiveness and willing to hit somebody, even if they made mistakes.
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I thought Tepper was horrible. I'm not even sure even would end up on the practice squad based on what we saw the other night. When he and McQuistan were at G and Bright was at C, the OL was just a sieve. Things got better IMO when Bright replaced Tepper and Costa moved to C.
 
dbair1967;3490846 said:
I thought Tepper was horrible. I'm not even sure even would end up on the practice squad based on what we saw the other night. When he and McQuistan were at G and Bright was at C, the OL was just a sieve. Things got better IMO when Bright replaced Tepper and Costa moved to C.

Yeah, I thought so too.

I've been a little disappointed in Costa so far. Thought he'd show better in training camp, but he was decent the other night.

Maybe he's just a slow starter.
 
Chief;3490558 said:
THe only problem is you can't make a guy into a great athlete.

Free had natural ability when he arrived. Sparano mentioned that he was a natural LT in his first camp. We could all see how well he could move. He just needed to get stronger and learn the nuances of the position.

Brewster is not a great athlete.

I'm not comparing him athletically to Free.

I'm saying we're probably going to hear a lot of whining about needing to draft our future RT while he's probably already on the roster.

He doesn't look the part body-wise, but he has very good feet for a RT, and he started 45+ games there in college in a pass happy system.
 
The Realist;3490862 said:
I'm not comparing him athletically to Free.

I'm saying we're probably going to hear a lot of whining about needing to draft our future RT while he's probably already on the roster.

He doesn't look the part body-wise, but he has very good feet for a RT, and he started 45+ games there in college in a pass happy system.


Good point on the need to draft a future RT.

I'm not sure what to think at this juncture. And that's probably where it should stay for the next six months as a big old "?".

Brewster, Young and the others. Maybe someone will emerge and maybe they won't.

I'm more sure that the team will draft an inside OL before they grab another OT though... come next April.
 
MichaelWinicki;3490877 said:
Good point on the need to draft a future RT.

I'm not sure what to think at this juncture. And that's probably where it should stay for the next six months as a big old "?".

Brewster, Young and the others. Maybe someone will emerge and maybe they won't.

I'm more sure that the team will draft an inside OL before they grab another OT though... come next April.

Agreed. If it's my team I'm drafting 3 interior OL.

Future LG, C, RG.

No real immediate needs except for maybe DE.

I'm a huge Spears fan, but say we lose him in FA.

I resign Hatcher, and Bowen.

Go with those 2 + Lissemore and maybe another mid-late round developmental guy. Maybe it's Dixon.

I like seeing more quickness on the DL and I think it fits Wade's system better.
 
MichaelWinicki;3490877 said:
Good point on the need to draft a future RT.

I'm not sure what to think at this juncture. And that's probably where it should stay for the next six months as a big old "?".

Brewster, Young and the others. Maybe someone will emerge and maybe they won't.

I'm more sure that the team will draft an inside OL before they grab another OT though... come next April.

I think we can take stock in how our own Doug Free looked in years one and two when they kept Pat McQuistan active over him on gamedays. There was a lot of talk about how thin we were behind Flo and Colombo until Free showed what he could do on the field last season.

I'm not saying that Brewster will end up as the answer, but a full year in pads and another offseason in the weight room will help him reach his potential.
 
Double Trouble;3489649 said:
I thought he looked like a fat glob of goo who has no business on a football field.

He was a reach to begin with. Don't know what they were thinking on that one.
 
I haven't gone back and watched him yet but come on guys. Have a little faith in player development.

Especially a guy who comes from a small school and was out of football for an entire season.

Give it a chance.
 
CATCH17;3490902 said:
I haven't gone back and watched him yet but come on guys. Have a little faith in player development.

Especially a guy who comes from a small school and was out of football for an entire season.

Give it a chance.

Yeah, but he played in the MAC against weak competition.

I don't know if a guy from that league can develop into a solid starting tackle in the NFL.

Oh wait, that's where Free played.
 
MichaelWinicki;3490877 said:
I'm more sure that the team will draft an inside OL before they grab another OT though... come next April.

I agree.

Our interior depth was exposed Sunday night... It could look better once Holland gets back but what we trotted out on the field needs a lot of work still.
 
Hostile;3490158 said:
Brewster was one of the first players Wade complimented in his PC. I guess Wade doesn't read this forum.

My read here is that Wade's evaluation uses a realistic measuring stick. Right now if Brewster makes the roster it is as a guy who displaces McQuistan. Realistically that spot is for a player who is the buried on the tackle depth chart at either position (behind Barron and Leonard Davis ... hell, maybe even behind Kosier) and not a high up at G either. In that context, a guy who comes in and carries out his assignments correctly at two different positions is doing well.
 

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