Rod Marinelli and Dominique Easley

[xwalker]

this was the question for Mel

Where would the DT, Easley have been drafted had he not gotten hurt?

I think we can draft Easley in the 3rd,2nd is too valuable to draft a player who had ACL tears on both knees.

He seems to be saying 3rd but borderline 2nd which would be higher than 4th/5th.

 

[reddyuta]

Link?

risen stars thread-

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/kiper-chat-4-24-14.288057/

 

[waving monkey]

B Mand (Sarasota, FL)

Where would the DT, Easley have been drafted had he not gotten hurt?

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Mel Kiper
(2:51 PM)

Second round.

Mel Kiper
(2:51 PM)

Second round. Now he looks like more of a fourth or fifth round.

 

[DoctorChicken]

B Mand (Sarasota, FL)

Where would the DT, Easley have been drafted had he not gotten hurt?

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Mel Kiper
(2:51 PM)

Second round.

Mel Kiper
(2:51 PM)

Second round. Now he looks like more of a fourth or fifth round.

lol Mel Kiper. Good one.

 

[Nirvana]

Disagree with Mel on that one. I actually like him more than Donald (health not a factor.) Catch some of his film - guy is a fireball full of talent (and his occasional twists before the snap are one of a kind and quite entertaining.)

 

[Oh_Canada]

I would be good with Easley after rd three. He's talented enough to take that risk in the fourth.

 

[arglebargle]

Two non-contact knee injuries makes me real nervous. Would not be racing to the podium in the first or second round. On the other hand, I don't watch film, don't work for an NFL team, and haven't talked to a single doctor who's examined said knees.

 

[Kaiser]

I think he is a late 1st or early 2nd. (Dane Brugler has him early 2nd round FWIW) I have to think Dallas is either hoping he drops to their 2nd round pick or think he would be the pick if they end up trading back from 16 to the late 1st.

 

[rockj7]

How does this thread only have 3 responses!? This is good inside information pre-draft.

I kind of feel like we should delete it to protect the integrity of the team's draft posturing.

This is why I love this site I thought that as soon as I read the thread and a few post down one of the fellow Cowboy fan brothers had already thought the same thing

 

[Alexander]

Round two is too early for this guy. He would have been a 2nd round guy if he hadn't been injured.

Mel Kiper said in his recent chat that Easley is a 4th/5th round guy presently.

3rd round at the latest. Somebody will risk it, he's worth a shot.

 

[marchetta]

3rd round at the latest. Somebody will risk it, he's worth a shot.

If Marinelli is spending 3 hours dining with him, it would only be if we're considering spending an early pick on him (1st or 2nd round pick). If we were considering spending a 3rd, or later, we wouldn't be putting in this amount of time and resources on him. Name another 3rd, or later, pick that we've spent this must time with? If we take him, it'll be after a trade down in the 1st, or most likely, in the 2nd round.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If Marinelli is spending 3 hours dining with him, it would only be if we're considering spending an early pick on him (1st or 2nd round pick). If we were considering spending a 3rd, or later, we wouldn't be putting in this amount of time and resources on him. Name another 3rd, or later, pick that we've spent this must time with? If we take him, it'll be after a trade down in the 1st, or most likely, in the 2nd round.

The challenge is that you don't know the "routine" then have with visiting draft picks. They could be doing this with most of them... And I wouldn't be surprised if they do, be it Jernigan, Donald or any of them. I think this team (like most) go all out when it comes to evaluating any guys they could potentially take, especially in the first 3 rounds.

 

[xwalker]

If Marinelli is spending 3 hours dining with him, it would only be if we're considering spending an early pick on him (1st or 2nd round pick). If we were considering spending a 3rd, or later, we wouldn't be putting in this amount of time and resources on him. Name another 3rd, or later, pick that we've spent this must time with? If we take him, it'll be after a trade down in the 1st, or most likely, in the 2nd round.

How would anybody know how much time he spends with players?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

How would anybody know how much time he spends with players?

Exactly.

I bet they're pretty thorough will all these prospects.

 

[dfense]

How does this thread only have 3 responses!? This is good inside information pre-draft.

I kind of feel like we should delete it to protect the integrity of the team's draft posturing.

I read Easley has been hurt or missed at least 2 games every year in college. He blew his knee out (not his first knee injury either) in a non contact drill. You really want a guy who's almost guarenteed to get hurt again.?

 

[Idgit]

I read Easley has been hurt or missed at least 2 games every year in college. He blew his knee out (not his first knee injury either) in a non contact drill. You really want a guy who's almost guarenteed to get hurt again.?

It's true that players that blow ligaments can do so because they have ligaments that are less forgiving than normal ligaments, so that condition of having 'tearable' ligaments is a legitimate thing. But it's also the case that the common ACL repair using a segment of the inter-patellar tendon is actually stronger, when rehabbed, than the original ACL.

In a way, when you take a guy who's had both knees done, you're getting a guy with super-strength ACLs. So that's kind of cool.

 

[Nirvana]

It's true that players that blow ligaments can do so because they have ligaments that are less forgiving than normal ligaments, so that condition of having 'tearable' ligaments is a legitimate thing. But it's also the case that the common ACL repair using a segment of the inter-patellar tendon is actually stronger, when rehabbed, than the original ACL.

In a way, when you take a guy who's had both knees done, you're getting a guy with super-strength ACLs. So that's kind of cool.

That is an interesting take. Could be picked at 16 if true.

 

[dfense]

It's true that players that blow ligaments can do so because they have ligaments that are less forgiving than normal ligaments, so that condition of having 'tearable' ligaments is a legitimate thing. But it's also the case that the common ACL repair using a segment of the inter-patellar tendon is actually stronger, when rehabbed, than the original ACL.

In a way, when you take a guy who's had both knees done, you're getting a guy with super-strength ACLs. So that's kind of cool.

Maybe players should manually destroy their knees as a redshirt freshmen, themn rehab to improve their draft stock in the future.

Always thinkin

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I would be good with Easley after rd three. He's talented enough to take that risk in the fourth.

Yup! Just like Chris Canty in the 2005 draft.

 

[Idgit]

That is an interesting take. Could be picked at 16 if true.

Maybe players should manually destroy their knees as a redshirt freshmen, themn rehab to improve their draft stock in the future.

Always thinkin

Obviously, tongue-in-cheek. Sort of. But at least it's what I was told when I blew out my ACL, back in the day.

The bigger issue was getting the musculature back, and not learning to overcompensate with the one good leg during the long rehab. I think I lot of players learn to rely on their 'good' legs during the long rehab process (it's easy to do, especially if you're also missing some meniscal cartilage and have any bone-on-bone). This leads to protecting your rehabbed leg and then blowing out your good one, which happens a lot.

So, it might not be a case of injury-prone so much as one injury creating the conditions where the second injury happened. But the bigger risk is getting the player back to playing the way he played before injury, because learning and unlearning the muscle memory after an injury can affect your fundamentals enough that it affects the way you play thereafter.