Roethlisberger injured in accident - No helmet.

sporadic

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I hat the use of the word dumb associated with all of this. Are people who get hurt in car accidents dumb for getting in the vehicle in the first place? Just because you ride a bike, with or without helmet, does not make you dumb...or more likely to get killed. A higher percentage of drivers are killed in car accidents than in motorcycle accidents. Your likelihood of being injured in a car wreck are greater than the percentage of GETTING INTO a motorcycle wreck. All of that being said, I believe Motorcycle riders are less prone to accidents because we drive more defensively than others...making us smart, not dumb.
 

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I mis-spoke above...motorcycle riders ARE more likely to be killed in accidents but less likely to be in an accident at all. And, by the way, there is really no correlation on survival ratios on helmet to non-helmet wearers. The helmet makes no difference in most cases as to weather you are killed or not.
 

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Here is some good info on motorcycle accident stats: http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/crash.htm

Motorcycle Fatalities Increasing: Read the October 2001full report "Fatal Single Vehicle Motorcycle Crashes" (DOT HS 809 360) from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA); a study recently conducted on motorcycle accidents and safety

Here's a summary of NHTSA DOT HS 809 360:

Single vehicle motorcycle crashes account for about 45 percent of all motorcyclist fatalities. More than 38,000 motorcyclists have died in single vehicle motorcycle crashes between 1975 and 1999. The report claims to provide data for insight into possible causes for these fatalities. According to the report, from 1990 through 1999, there were a total of 11,038 fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. During that same time period, there were an estimated 294,000 non-fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. Of these, an estimated 39,000 involved property damage only and 255,000 involved injuries. Motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes decreased each year from 1990 to 1996, reaching a historic low of 937 in 1996 and again in 1997. In 1998, the fatalities increased to 1,042 (11.2 percent increase); in 1998 and in 1999 they increased to 1,140 (9.4 percent). The overall increase in motorcyclist fatalities from 1997 to 1999 was 203 (21.7 percent).

Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:

Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent
More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads
High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators
Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash
Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway
Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities
Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash
Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night
Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities
Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities
More riders age 40 and over are getting killed
Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license
1998 Motorcycle Facts:
2,284 motorcyclists died and approximately 49,000 were injured in highway crashes in the United States.
Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured.
Head injury is a leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
In 1998, 46% of fatally injured motorcycle drivers were not wearing helmets at the time of the crash.
NHTSA estimates that motorcycle helmets reduce the likelihood of a fatality by 29% in a crash.
In 1998, 41% of all motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes were speeding.
Nearly one out of five motorcycle drivers (18%) involved in fatal crashes in 1998 was operating with an invalid license at the time of the collision.
Motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes in 1998 had higher intoxication rates than any other type of motor vehicle driver at 31%.
In 1998, 500 motorcyclists lives were saved due to helmet usage; 307 could have been saved.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
 

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Does seem to indicate that it is a LOT MORE DANGEROUS riding a cycle then driving a car. Well, only total morons would claim otherwise. I wonder if anyone has done a real good job of breaking down accidents and injuries in detail for cyclists that do and do not wear helmets?
 

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Not the argument I was making...note the term "more likely to die in a crach"...I am saying there are fewer crashes. Motorcycles, on a per capita basis, are involved in less accidents. I will eventually post a link...unless it is a figment of my imagination.
 

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sporadic said:
Not the argument I was making...note the term "more likely to die in a crach"...I am saying there are fewer crashes. Motorcycles, on a per capita basis, are involved in less accidents. I will eventually post a link...unless it is a figment of my imagination.
I find that very difficult to believe, but I couldn't find any stats either way. The stats on survivability with a helmet were mixed. The stats for serious injury for a motorcycle vs. a car were staggering.
 

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Judas Priest David. I had no idea about any of that stuff. Nice post with lots of good advice.

FWIW, to all who have advised me to wear my helmet. My wife was all over me yesterday when she heard this news. I was headed up to Mt. Lemmon to be part of bear patrol for a camp up there that my oldest daughter is attending. Before I left I showed her pictures of the bike and stuff from this htread.

Right now, I do not have a bike. I sold it a few months back so that a real estate transaction I was working on could go through. I've been bike shopping for the last 2 weeks. I made a promise to my wife last night that I will not ride without a helmet.
Now I gotta take them and get them painted like I said.
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fiveandcounting said:
I hear NFL Network is doing another installment of its show "In their own words" with Ben, but it will just be 60 minutes of mmmmm...mmm....mmmm....mmmm
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Turns out that all the talk of him riding legally without a helmet was just talk. He was riding on an expired MC permit. Even if it wasn't expired, state law mandates thats one must have a license for two years before riding without a helmet.
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
Turns out that all the talk of him riding legally without a helmet was just talk. He was riding on an expired MC permit. Even if it wasn't expired, state law mandates thats one must have a license for two years before riding without a helmet.
So there is gonna be legal issues???
 
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