Rolando McClain Contract Question

[Doomsday101]

He is not ready for ROH but seem to recall some people claiming he would not even make the team. No one was holding the horses back then. lol

I don't think Dallas needs to be in a rush to get him signed it can wait until the season is done then look to get something done. Until then Ro has looked very good

 

[conner01]

Sorry, but Sean was not a difference maker on the field. I watched this guy get owned more than the plays he actually made. I hate that you had to hear it from me. But this McClain is a combination of intelligence, talent, and pure intimidation. He plays mean, something this defense has been lacking. When or if Lee comes back, he can move to the outside and then we can start the process of having a dominant defense.

thats just a silly statement. lee has 11 ints in 4 years at lb. those are cb type numbers and not cb's we have. lee has also played more games going into this season than mcclain and they started the same time. lee also has many more tackles in his time than ro has. i like what Ro brings to the middle and if he can continue to do it and we can keep him thats great but to say lee is not a difference maker shows a servere lack of mental bandwith

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Good stuff man!

I would shake your hand, but I have anointing oil all over them...

damn. foiled again!

 

[Star Guard_31]

Rolando McClain is Laurent Robinson 2.0

He's a great find who will likely get more money elsewhere in the offseason.

 

[AsthmaField]

Rolando McClain is Laurent Robinson 2.0

He's a great find who will likely get more money elsewhere in the offseason.

I'm not so sure about that. Robinson was clearly the 3rd best WR Dallas had. Dez and Austin weren't going anywhere at that point. We knew all along that if a team wanted to pay him like a #1 or even a #2 WR that we weren't gonna do that. He was always going to be 3rd best option at WR.

McClain though, if he continues to play like this will clearly be the best choice at MLB, even when Lee comes back. Lee can go outside and Dallas can have a starting MLB who plays very well but because of his history will be below market value for an impact player at MLB.

Personally, I think Dallas would pay just as much as anyone around the league... and Dallas might pay a little more because McClain has shown that he will play for Dallas and likes to be here.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Sorry, but Sean was not a difference maker on the field. I watched this guy get owned more than the plays he actually made. I hate that you had to hear it from me. But this McClain is a combination of intelligence, talent, and pure intimidation. He plays mean, something this defense has been lacking. When or if Lee comes back, he can move to the outside and then we can start the process of having a dominant defense.

Unbelievable .

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm not concerned with this till we see how he plays throughout the course of the entire season.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

McClaine missed practice again today .

 

[Star Guard_31]

I'm not so sure about that. Robinson was clearly the 3rd best WR Dallas had. Dez and Austin weren't going anywhere at that point. We knew all along that if a team wanted to pay him like a #1 or even a #2 WR that we weren't gonna do that. He was always going to be 3rd best option at WR.

McClain though, if he continues to play like this will clearly be the best choice at MLB, even when Lee comes back. Lee can go outside and Dallas can have a starting MLB who plays very well but because of his history will be below market value for an impact player at MLB.

Personally, I think Dallas would pay just as much as anyone around the league... and Dallas might pay a little more because McClain has shown that he will play for Dallas and likes to be here.

I don't disagree with your logic on Robinson after his big year. Time proved he wasn't worth the money he received from Jacksonville. However, I think your comment about the best option at middle linebacker is a little more subjective. That said, I guess my point is more critiquing the failure to be proactive vs. reactive. If you wait to lock someone up until after they've established (or re-established) themselves then you lose all leverage and are forced to "pay retail" as Jerry would say, or watch them walk away. If you're taking a flyer on a guy then team has all the leverage up front. Why not offer McClain a non-guaranteed 2 year contract worth $700k per year, as opposed to one year at the same salary? The player has no negotiating power and would probably jump at the extra security offered by the second year. Instead we give the player a platform to establish themselves then walk away.

As I believe I saw earlier in this thread, wouldn't it be something if Ozzie Newsome signed McClain in the offseason then took our 6th round pick just for good measure?

 

[AsthmaField]

I don't disagree with your logic on Robinson after his big year. Time proved he wasn't worth the money he received from Jacksonville. However, I think your comment about the best option at middle linebacker is a little more subjective. That said, I guess my point is more critiquing the failure to be proactive vs. reactive. If you wait to lock someone up until after they've established (or re-established) themselves then you lose all leverage and are forced to "pay retail" as Jerry would say, or watch them walk away. If you're taking a flyer on a guy then team has all the leverage up front. Why not offer McClain a non-guaranteed 2 year contract worth $700k per year, as opposed to one year at the same salary? The player has no negotiating power and would probably jump at the extra security offered by the second year. Instead we give the player a platform to establish themselves then walk away.

As I believe I saw earlier in this thread, wouldn't it be something if Ozzie Newsome signed McClain in the offseason then took our 6th round pick just for good measure?

Yeah, I see what you're saying and I don't disagree really, although the natives here might have revolted if Dallas would have signed him to 2 years from the get-go. However, you are correct about "retail". That's why I wrote this earlier in the thread:

If McClain continues to play exceptionally well, then by mid season I would seriously think about going to him and telling him that we would go ahead and tear that contract up since he's out playing it, give him a new one for the remainder of 2014, and all of 2015 and 2016, at which point we could re-look at things.

Tell him he is getting more this season than we have to pay him, but we expect a reasonable contract for all 2.5 years of it.

He would appreciate Dallas doing something this year where he is clearly out playing his $700K contract, and would hopefully see that as part of why he needs to sign a reasonable contract.

IMO it would build goodwill with McClain and all other inexpensive players would see that Dallas upped his contract in mid season in order to make it fair with how well he is playing [giving them incentive to work hard].

I think it would make him a little less likely to ask/expect a big deal. Plus, he should understand incentives and not a lot of signing bonus, (like Melton) so it would limit the teams concerns.

IMO, it would get us a little less than "retail". Actually, even if we wait, McClain is going to have to understand that he is going to have to take an incentive heavy contract and likely won't get a lot of signing bonus. But if we did it around the midpoint of the season (assuming he's still playing really well), he would appreciate us giving him more this year when he deserves more and Dallas didn't have to, and it would be understood that the team is still taking a considerable risk and would expect a lot of incentives and not the going rate for an impact MLB.

Just an idea.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I would try to sign him before free agency but with clauses added to the contract. The clauses should state that if he decides to quit it can void the contract completely and he won't get that type of money. It should also be backloaded in which he would have to play in the last years of the contract in order to get paid on the majority of contract.

Right now, Cowboys need to be wise. Stop signing these players to long term deals without any clauses to the contract. They should be clauses on the contract that is "play and pay" type of deals. You play we pay. You don't play, we don't pay. Its that simple.

 

[jday]

Just curious what you guys think about McClains 1 yr 700,000 deal if he goes on and has the type of season hes fully capable of....since he would be an unrestricted Free Agent would we:

1) Let him possibly walk with Lee coming back
2) Try to resign him before Free Agency
3) Use the Franchise Tag which I have no idea what that would cost

Opinions please....I was thinking we may have actually found our MLB for the next 7 or 8 years
but very concerned with the 1 yr deal he is playing on currently !!!

The good news for the Cowboys bad news for McClain is regardless of how well he does this year, there will still be teams leery of committing financially long-term to him given his past. I suspect that if and when the Cowboys discuss a new deal, he will be reasonable in his demands.

 

[cowboys1981]

No matter what he does his desire to play will always be in question. This will knock his value to a price we can afford to keep him. Since he's been here he has shown his desire to play this game. His efforts on the field aren't of one who is lacking a desire to play.

 

[waving monkey]

Sorry, but Sean was not a difference maker on the field. I watched this guy get owned more than the plays he actually made. I hate that you had to hear it from me. But this McClain is a combination of intelligence, talent, and pure intimidation. He plays mean, something this defense has been lacking. When or if Lee comes back, he can move to the outside and then we can start the process of having a dominant defense.

you evaluation of Ro is correct; your evaluation of Lee myopic

 

[waving monkey]

Rolando McClain is Laurent Robinson 2.0

He's a great find who will likely get more money elsewhere in the offseason.

you will never make it as a horse trader