News: Rolando McLain to stand trial for 2013 disorderly conduct charge Friday

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He is also facing resisting arrest, which is more serious.

This is a vague term used in the legal system. They can slap a resisting arrest charge on you if you try and jerk your hands away from the cuffs.

So basically, we have a guy going through some trial for saying "F the police" and jerking away when they tried to cuff.

This country can be comical at times with the legal system. With how many people who are on trial and in jail for petty, worthless crimes. And it's all on our dollar.

Since they seem aggravated and feelings hurt for him saying "f the police", they slapped a resisting charge the second he moved away when they went to cuff him.

This whole thing is silly.

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This is a vague term used in the legal system. They can slap a resisting arrest charge on you if you try and jerk your hands away from the cuffs.

So basically, we have a guy going through some trial for saying "F the police" and jerking away when they tried to cuff.

This country can be comical at times with the legal system. With how many people who are on trial and in jail for petty, worthless crimes. And it's all on our dollar.

Since they seem aggravated and feelings hurt for him saying "f the police", they slapped a resisting charge the second he moved away when they went to cuff him.

This whole thing is silly.

/minirant

Not when it is considered that the law enforcement is in a continually hostile environment 24/7. That just a show of flippancy in an emotionally tense situation can very quickly get out of hand. No matter what the philosophical protections of an individual, it's not the law abiding person that comes in conflict with expectation from the start. Crowd control is extremely difficult from the start.
 

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But you have to keep in mind that this has not yet gone to trial. The judge's refusal to delay is a clear message to the two sides to work a deal. The prosecution here has some good leverage as it is such a pain for Ro to return. I'd expect a deal soon

If they couldn't work a deal for disorderly freaking conduct in an afternoon over beers during happy hour, then I don't have any faith in the state of Alabama or it's bar association.
 

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No. It sounds like the judge wants the sides to make a deal as a trial is ridiculous. What does another few months get aside from more billable hours?

Prosecutors work for the state so they don't bill hours, and the government is responsible for presenting offers to deal. Obviously McClain's attorney wants a delay because, you know, camp starts.
 

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Why did the DA not downgrade the charges (general case for small infractions) to avoid costing the courts the extra funds needed to even go forward. Prosecutors due this like 99.9% of the time to avoid such circumstances while guaranteeing the defendant either serves some time/probation/paying a hefty fine then being eligible to expunge @ a later date. Courts would go bankrupt otherwise. If it does allow them to come to some probation situation than that would work, but I didn't see Rolando declining a reasonable plea to such bogus charges that would cause the delay.

There are lawyers on the board that can clean that up with better details:D

Courts would not go bankrupt. They are on government dollars funded by taxes paid regardless of how many cases are on the docket.

The only way this makes sense is if unbeknownst to any of us, he DID decline a reasonable deal. But I suspect that's not the case. Fine the guy and move on.
 

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Courts would not go bankrupt. They are on government dollars funded by taxes paid regardless of how many cases are on the docket.

The only way this makes sense is if unbeknownst to any of us, he DID decline a reasonable deal. But I suspect that's not the case. Fine the guy and move on.

Yeah, bankrupt was a poor choice of words. More so tied up to the point of gridlock. But you are correct.
 

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Prosecutors work for the state so they don't bill hours, and the government is responsible for presenting offers to deal. Obviously McClain's attorney wants a delay because, you know, camp starts.

I never even took that into play...a way to get himself into game shape (court delay) before embarrassing himself in live action? Give him time to get his legs under him.
 

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It's probably because he's a repeat offender. This is, what, the third time he's been arrested in just a couple of years? And the last time was when instead of simply signing his citation he had to tell the cops his name was *** Yall (except not "***") and when they gave him a chance to change he refused.

At this point, why should the court cut him any breaks?

Haha. You mean constantly getting yourself into trouble might actually result in having to account for your actions?
 

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Everyone is upset about this because he's a Cowboy now.

This isn't about wasting time but rather holding a repeat offender accountable for his actions.
 

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I'm sure JJ can make a few phone calls in regards to this. He is one of us now untouchable, unless your Sam Hurd.
 

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It's probably because he's a repeat offender. This is, what, the third time he's been arrested in just a couple of years? And the last time was when instead of simply signing his citation he had to tell the cops his name was *** Yall (except not "***") and when they gave him a chance to change he refused.

At this point, why should the court cut him any breaks?

That isn't illegal. You can say F the police to their face. Unfortunately in the real world, they will "then" find a way to bring that person in. He shrugged while they grabbed him = resisting arrest?

I'm not a big McClain fan either, just found that situation to be especially petty.
 

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It's probably because he's a repeat offender. This is, what, the third time he's been arrested in just a couple of years? And the last time was when instead of simply signing his citation he had to tell the cops his name was *** Yall (except not "***") and when they gave him a chance to change he refused.

At this point, why should the court cut him any breaks?

Man back in my hey days I've done WAY more than this kid and got away clean through the court systems. Most of the time they didn't want to deal with the crap or I took some plea that scrubs all records but leaving me with a fine. Usually these courts just want the money and be done. I've paid out enough to these courts to learn my lesson, that is how they hurt you.
 

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This is a vague term used in the legal system. They can slap a resisting arrest charge on you if you try and jerk your hands away from the cuffs.

So basically, we have a guy going through some trial for saying "F the police" and jerking away when they tried to cuff.

This country can be comical at times with the legal system. With how many people who are on trial and in jail for petty, worthless crimes. And it's all on our dollar.

Since they seem aggravated and feelings hurt for him saying "f the police", they slapped a resisting charge the second he moved away when they went to cuff him.

This whole thing is silly.

/minirant

Resisting arrest can include "walking away" after an officer places their hand on your shoulder. I'm talking 5 feet...They make it into whatever they need to.
 

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Prosecutors work for the state so they don't bill hours, and the government is responsible for presenting offers to deal. Obviously McClain's attorney wants a delay because, you know, camp starts.

Sorry I initially misread that. But this type of case would be an "in and out" issue if a plea is taken and would get him back to camp ASAP. Were you saying that his request stems from the repercussions of a guilty plea he would have to take (probation/league suspension)?
 

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Just hope he can put all of this behind him and move on with his life, he has a great opportunity and while he can't change what is done he can rectify the issue and try to rebuild a career. He is still young enough to take full advantage
 

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Is disorderly conduct even a legitimate criminal offense? I always thought it was some petty offense that they just slap you on the wrist for, maybe throw you in lockup for a night .

After some quick research, apparently it can be considered a criminal offense if it's a misdemeanor. Ridiculous that saying "F the police" warrants a jury trial.

'MURICA.

I think it is usually a slap on the wrist. Maybe it is more serious because he has had previous run ins with the law?
 
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