Rolle n Peppers!

People forget that it was the return of Newman that induced Wade Phillips to actually play way more man-to-man coverage, increasing the pressure up-front. Getting rid of Newman is absolutely stupid, if just from a philosophical view-point in how we play defense. Further, it was Newman that was pushing for man-to-man prior to his injury, which actually shows the influence he has on this defense. I have absolutely no problems with Newman saying we should employ more confusion in our defensive packages, whether in the secondary or up-front. Wade, I don't believe, brushes the value of Newman's opinions aside.
 
Alexander;2694099 said:
This is a joke. Correct?

all joking aside, what has tnew done to merit such high praise from us? NOTHING. he's been very solid at best. not a game changer, not a shutdown and not healthy.
 
Nexx;2694361 said:
all joking aside, what has tnew done to merit such high praise from us? NOTHING. he's been very solid at best. not a game changer, not a shutdown and not healthy.

Ummm.....he has definitely been a shutdown corner when healthy. Far better than "solid" at the very least.
 
Ichill2;2694089 said:
I think we can go after Samari Rolle & Julius Peppers..The way to do it is trade Newman for peppers and bring in Samari Rolle..He is just as good as T-New. He is also a little bigger..I like newman but he is more talk than results..Rolle can cover just as good..With peppers & ware bringing the heat upfront..The D could be back in Dallas! Just kicking this around..

MY KINGDOM FOR A FANTASYFOOL ZONE!
 
Samari Rolle is clearly on the down side of his career. Why would anyone here want to do this? Also, if Peppers was still the player some say he still is, Carolina would have found a way to keep him. It's not like that defense has all that many great players anymore. (Yeah, I know they had to pay big $$$ to Jordan Gross, but still...)
 
Nexx;2694361 said:
all joking aside, what has tnew done to merit such high praise from us? NOTHING. he's been very solid at best. not a game changer, not a shutdown and not healthy.

what exactly do you define as a game changer or shutdown CB now?

He clearly alters team's game plans because he is rarely thrown at. He blankets receivers and almost never gives up big plays or TD's, and rarely commits a penalty. His coverage stats are always at the top of the league.

Sounds like he is a game changer and shutdown CB to me.
 
Sounds like a good idea, but we just signed Newman to a big contract. We're stuck with a few more 8-10 game seasons, dropped interceptions, and ill-advised comments to the media until we can cut him loose.
 
Nexx;2694361 said:
all joking aside, what has tnew done to merit such high praise from us? NOTHING. he's been very solid at best. not a game changer, not a shutdown and not healthy.

At least we didn't get Dwayne Robertson. Newman has been a disappointment, but not as much as that guy has.
 
Jon88;2694541 said:
At least we didn't get Dwayne Robertson. Newman has been a disappointment, but not as much as that guy has.

what the hell?

We really do have stupid fans.
 
Jon88;2694540 said:
Sounds like a good idea, but we just signed Newman to a big contract. We're stuck with a few more 8-10 game seasons, dropped interceptions, and ill-advised comments to the media until we can cut him loose.

:rolleyes:
 
dbair1967;2694546 said:
what the hell?

We really do have stupid fans.

Yeah I know, named dbair who objects anytime you criticize a player.
 
Jon88;2694556 said:
Yeah I know, named dbair who objects anytime you criticize a player.

no we definitely have some guys who deserve criticism

Newman isnt one of them...he's one of the best players in the league at his position...31 other teams would love to have the guy...only in the bizarro world of CZ do we see him compared the busts like Dwayne Robertson
 
Jon88;2694558 said:
That's one of your favorite replies. If you're annoyed it's better to type it out. No one can read minds.

It doesnt mean I'm annoyed, it means I think the post is ridiculous
 
dbair1967;2694562 said:
no we definitely have some guys who deserve criticism

Newman isnt one of them...he's one of the best players in the league at his position...31 other teams would love to have the guy...only in the bizarro world of CZ do we see him compared the busts like Dwayne Robertson

I didn't compare him to Dwayne Robertson. I said he wasn't as big of a disappointment as Dwayne Robertson. Newman was picked 5 overall and so far he has been a disappointment in my mind. He's not a game changer and can't seem to stay healthy. Plus he's stupid.
 
Jon88;2694565 said:
I didn't compare him to Dwayne Robertson. I said he wasn't as big of a disappointment as Dwayne Robertson. Newman was picked 5 overall and so far he has been a disappointment in my mind. He's not a game changer and can't seem to stay healthy. Plus he's stupid.

yet again can't stay healthy? hes missed how many games in 6 seasons? I think its nine games. CLEARLY he cant stay healthy. Good god do i feel sorry for your kids if you really thing a shutdown corner like newman is a "disappointment".
 
the kid 05;2694597 said:
yet again can't stay healthy? hes missed how many games in 6 seasons? I think its nine games. CLEARLY he cant stay healthy. Good god do i feel sorry for your kids if you really thing a shutdown corner like newman is a "disappointment".

Let's talk about last season and the year before that. Averaging it out dillutes the facts. I wouldn't call him a shutdown corner.

I feel sorry for your mom.
 
Jon88;2694599 said:
Let's talk about last season and the year before that. Averaging it out dillutes the facts. I wouldn't call him a shutdown corner.

I feel sorry for your mom.

of course you wouldn't, but you'd probably call Reeves an all pro super duper shut down corner.

i feel sorry for her too, hey we have something in common
 
the kid 05;2694601 said:
of course you wouldn't, but you'd probably call Reeves an all pro super duper shut down corner.

i feel sorry for her too, hey we have something in common

I probably wouldn't. Reeves sucked.
 
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