Romo and Dak based on Raw Ability

[SultanOfSix]

Romo was coddled for over three years.

I don’t think you know what that word means.

 

[Vtwin]

Tony Romo had more Pro Bowl offensive linemen than any other QB during the time he was a starter.

Huh?

Romo had some name guys in 2007-2009. Guys who were good players but who definitely benefitted from name recognition and by having both an escape artist at QB and a battering ram at RB making them look better than they were. The o-line was the single biggest reason the Vikings crushed the Cowboys in 09. The lines Romo had from 2010-2013 were embarrassing.

It wasn't until 2014 that Romo had a legit good/great line again. In 2013 the left side was solid with Smith, Leary and Frederick, but Bernadeau and Free were very much weak links and exploitable.

In 2014 Romo finally had a legit o-line. The same o-line that Dak had to begin his career. Dak has had seasons with a better line then Romo ever had and Dak has never had a season with an o-line that comes near as bad as a few of the lines Romo had in the dark ages.

 

[Risen Star]

Keep in mind that Prescott used to rip Romo on social media.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Ya it was a great game. However your signature game was a loss, then you arent amongst the greats. Both Romo and Prescott should be proud of their careers, but neither of them are HOF caliber QB. They are in the convo with guys like Ryan and Rivers and not guys like Rodgers, Rothlisberger or Brees. Cowboys lowered the bar after the Carter years. Then got too emotional. They'll accept empty calorie QB's as long as they look good

I never said it was MY "signature game". I never said Romo was HoF.

And I don't for one second...like YOU...blame lack of success on Romo. You said it without saying it.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Picking a favorite between Romo and/or Dak seems an exercise in futility to me. Obviously, Romo is totally immersed in the business of the TV media and is not a factor in anything to do with the Dallas Cowboys at this juncture, other than to analyze their games upon occasion. If I had to pick one to lead this team, Romo would be my choice at QB if both were at their peak and healthy. He cannot do so from where he sits, however.

Dak is currently the one and only consideration for this team and will most likely be, for the next several years, at least. If it really matters to us as fans here, both have fallen short of success in the playoffs, which is what many ardent Cowboys' fans consider quite important. Both have proven themselves to be good but with limitations, when it comes to their playoff performance. Also, Dak is still active.

Yes...it's an odd situation. It's my opinion Dak defenders bring up Romo quite a bit, like if they can just convince people to stop appreciating Romo, Dak would be a better QB.

And if you say something positive about Romo...it means you hate Dak and need fought.

Weird.

 

[jwitten82]

Keep in mind that Prescott used to rip Romo on social media.

So did most people on this boardm..and he deserved it

 

[jwitten82]

Not even, but if that helps you feel better, whatever you say.

Who you trying to fool? You make excuses for 90% of Daks interceptions, but place blame on Romo. They both are chokers

 

[CowboyFrog]

"One of the most accurate QBs (65.3% career completion)" this is what cracks me up if this makes Romo one of the most accurate then what does a careeer 66.8% completion rate make Dak?

we are on to ChatAI to prop one up over the other now?
Funny this is what google AI says does this make this thread BS?

Summary. Both Dak Prescott and Tony Romo are considered among the best Cowboys quarterbacks in history. Prescott's consistent performances give him an edge over Romo. Both quarterbacks faced injuries and playoff failures, but Prescott's shorter career has seen more success.Jul 5, 2024

 

[Kingofholland]

The only year he had a good defense was his rookie season (no rookie QB has ever won a Superbowl obviously) and Crayton hesitated on his route from a perfectly thrown ball then the Cowboys beat the eventual Superbowl Champions who also subsequently beat the undefeated Patriots under a certain Tom Brady.

How many top 10 defenses did Brady have in his career compared with the likes of Rodgers and Romo?

I don't know maybe you can't win a Superbowl without a good defense

No other quarterback is winning or even reaching a Superbowl with the teams Romo had whereas there's a huge argument that a better quarterback than Dak Prescott would have done with the teams he has wasted particularly the loss against Green Bay in 2016 (Packers had one of the worst pass defenses in play off history yet Dak and the Cowboys offense wasted most of the first half when the defense was struggling. Defense showed up second half but it was too late after they didn't do their job in the first half and the offense butchered several drives which ended up losing the game) and both play off losses to the 49ers.

That's the difference between them.

I totally understand those points and certainly respect Romo for what he accomplished. He was a popular player here and is a great story coming in as an undrafted QB. There are 53 players on the team plus coaches so there is more at play, however, it's hard to fathom glorifying Romo and trashing Dak. I do think Romo had a better deep ball, but the reality is their careers have followed a similar trajectory when it has come down to the most important games. What was Romo's reputation for stellar play when the clock rolled beyond November?

I'll point everyone to the 2009-2010 playoff loss at the Vikings 34-3. Yes we apparently had a top 10 defense and Tony Romo led the offense to a whopping 3 points. Against the Giants in the 2007-2008 season we talk about the Crayton play, but what about the 17 points scored by a top 3 offense and the whopping 3 points they scored in the 2nd half?

I'm certainly not here to trash Romo, I'll always be a Romo fan but I'm also realistic in what Romo was. A very good QB, that unfortunately slips down the rankings among QBs in his decade due to lack of playoff success, time missed due to injuries and longevity.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I totally understand those points and certainly respect Romo for what he accomplished. He was a popular player here and is a great story coming in as an undrafted QB. There are 53 players on the team plus coaches so there is more at play, however, it's hard to fathom glorifying Romo and trashing Dak. I do think Romo had a better deep ball, but the reality is their careers have followed a similar trajectory when it has come down to the most important games. What was Romo's reputation for stellar play when the clock rolled beyond November?

I'll point everyone to the 2009-2010 playoff loss at the Vikings 34-3. Yes we apparently had a top 10 defense and Tony Romo led the offense to a whopping 3 points. Against the Giants in the 2007-2008 season we talk about the Crayton play, but what about the 17 points scored by a top 3 offense and the whopping 3 points they scored in the 2nd half?

I'm certainly not here to trash Romo, I'll always be a Romo fan but I'm also realistic in what Romo was. A very good QB, that unfortunately slips down the rankings among QBs in his decade due to lack of playoff success, time missed due to injuries and longevity.

in short both are/where good QB's who can not/could not overcome a horrendous FO...its pretty simple when you take the bias out of it.

 

[Kingofholland]

in short both are/where good QB's who can not/could not overcome a horrendous FO...its pretty simple when you take the bias out of it.

Well summed up.

 

[CATCH17]

Romo was asked to carry the team.

The team is asked to carry Dak.

 

[OGSixshooter]

LOL @ "elite". Romo was NEVER CONSIDERED ELITE WHEN HE WAS PLAYING. NEVER.

This is subjective "I love my wife and kids" evaluation. Romo did DEVELOP a sweet release but HE HIMSELF said he didn't figure out his ideal throwing platform until YEAR 8...in 2012. And his velocity was adequate but no one ever confused him John Elway or Marino in arm talent.

To quote Jimmy...."puuuuulllllleeeeaasseeeeee"

 

[OGSixshooter]

Romo was asked to carry the team.

The team is asked to carry Dak.

And when was Romo did carry the team you got 8-8...about what you'd get with Dak.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Romo had the glitch where he would make a horrible mistake at the worst time.
Dak has the deer in the headlights look with eyes wide open like the stage is just too big for him.
Romo was hands down the better QB and was completely robbed of going to an NFC championship game. The Dez catch was a catch. Now there was time so Rodgers may of won the game but the refs didn't want to take that chance.
Both guys lacked the pedigree ability that Eli Manning showed in winning his two SBs. Say what you want about the defense and the Tyree catch and the Samuels missed INT but the dude threw 8 TD passes on the road to the SB. Eli may of been suspect in the regular season but Eli owned the GOAT in the post season. And yeah he got lucky but he also capitalized on the luck. Pedigree is what wins!

Only thing I would modify was that Romo was a better thrower...but not a better overall QB/leader. Dak took over Romo's team...even when Romo had full-throated support from Jerry himself. Romo was a management darling but not a team leader...and it showed when he sulked on the sidelines and almost no one came over to him.

 

[Havic]

Romo got better with age, Dak has deterioated

 

[plasticman]

I don’t think you know what that word means.

There has been only three times since the NFL and AFL merger in 1970 that a quarterback didn't throw a single pass in their first two years and eventually became a starter for at least one season.

Two, Romo and Jeff Hostetler, had the same HC, Bill Parcells. The other, HC was Tom Landry with Gary Hogeboom.

Many teams plan on "developing" a QB but they always seem to end up playing earlier than planned.

Tony Romo is the only QB in NFL history to not throw a single regular season pass in his first three years in the NFL and eventually become a starter.

As I mentioned earlier, he wasn't even active for a single game his first season, hence the absence of statistics for 2003.

coddle: To treat in an overprotective way

I believe I used the term appropriately.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Only thing I would modify was that Romo was a better thrower...but not a better overall QB/leader. Dak took over Romo's team...even when Romo had full-throated support from Jerry himself. Romo was a management darling but not a team leader...and it showed when he sulked on the sidelines and almost no one came over to him.

Correct ^^^ (2016)

 

[plasticman]

Huh?

Romo had some name guys in 2007-2009. Guys who were good players but who definitely benefitted from name recognition and by having both an escape artist at QB and a battering ram at RB making them look better than they were. The o-line was the single biggest reason the Vikings crushed the Cowboys in 09. The lines Romo had from 2010-2013 were embarrassing.

It wasn't until 2014 that Romo had a legit good/great line again. In 2013 the left side was solid with Smith, Leary and Frederick, but Bernadeau and Free were very much weak links and exploitable.

In 2014 Romo finally had a legit o-line. The same o-line that Dak had to begin his career. Dak has had seasons with a better line then Romo ever had and Dak has never had a season with an o-line that comes near as bad as a few of the lines Romo had in the dark ages.

Yes, there was name recognition. Do you know why? Because they were good. It wasn't because they played for the mediocre Cowboys. The Seahawks, Packers, and Giants were more recognizable having played in multiple SB's during that time period.

Flozel Adams, Leonard Dais and Andre Gurode were beasts. Parcells built the O-line to run block but pass-happy Jason Garrett misused them.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Romo got better with age, Dak has deterioated

Not true. Dak's yearly stats prove otherwise...

Dak and his Cowboys team even went a franchise record three straight 12 - 5 record seasons (2021 - 2023), plus playoffs every year, Dak being voted 2nd in MVP voting in 2023 along with making All Pro, which proves Dak has gotten better with age.