Romo golfing

I've been wondering for some time now that if cowboyvic and clutch88 are cowboyjoe's kids?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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CowboyDan;3942020 said:
I'll give you the fumbled snap against Seattle. (Even though you didn't mention that Terry Glenn's fumble at our own goal line, which resulted in a Seattle recovery for a touchdown, was the real reason we lost that game.)
I can't give you the Giants playoff game. He had a better day than Eli and had 2 more touchdowns dropped.
And blaming him for the Minnesota game is insane. He doesn't kick field goals, play in the secondary or block on the o-line. That's where the blame goes in that game.

Of course, he did go into New Orleans and win, which started a playoff run.
He did beat the Eagles 3 times 2 years ago and won the NFC East.
He did go into Green Bay and win.
He did go up to New York and win.
He did go into Chicago and win.
He's 38 - 17 as a starter in the regular season.
Should I go on??
Nice try, but NO! big wins are playoff games. and games. it's nice to win other games during the season(see John Kitna against the Giants in 2010) but if you cant win the big ones in the playoffs, what good is it? and his record in the playoffs speaks for itself. nothing is going to change you people's mind until we go another 15 years with one playoff win. i don't get it!
 
5Stars;3942029 said:
I've been wondering for some time now that if cowboyvic and clutch88 are cowboyjoe's kids?

Inquiring minds want to know.
:confused:
Why! because we don't agree with you that Romo can do no wrong?
 
CowboyDan;3942020 said:
I'll give you the fumbled snap against Seattle. (Even though you didn't mention that Terry Glenn's fumble at our own goal line, which resulted in a Seattle recovery for a touchdown, was the real reason we lost that game.)
I can't give you the Giants playoff game. He had a better day than Eli and had 2 more touchdowns dropped.
And blaming him for the Minnesota game is insane. He doesn't kick field goals, play in the secondary or block on the o-line. That's where the blame goes in that game.

Of course, he did go into New Orleans and win, which started a playoff run.
He did beat the Eagles 3 times 2 years ago and won the NFC East.
He did go into Green Bay and win.
He did go up to New York and win.
He did go into Chicago and win.
He's 38 - 17 as a starter in the regular season.
Should I go on??


Id be interested in him taking your post seriously

The Seattle snap was bad, but it was a snap in a WC game in his first year starting. It is what it is. Since then hes been awesome and the team wins.

I think our former HC got the team ill prepared for most of the playoff games b/c the O-line just never brought it. It was a disaster.

Romo gets sacked from the blind side, loses the ball, and the FOX cameras follow him up and down the sideline like hes some chump. This stuff gets ingrained in the fair-weather fans mind and they latch to it.

An easy by the numbers domination of the Eagles back to back goes right over their heads. That was the small game, THIS one is the REAL big game. Its almost like always winning is mandatory and the losses are the only thing you can point to.

In my book good QB's get their teams wins. If you are good you should do it w/ an average group of guys. Like Cutler in Chicago, Warner in Ari, Brees in NO etc. Thats how important the position is that they make that much of a difference. The Cowboys sucked before Romo, he steps in and they consistently win. There you go. If he were as good as Peyton Manning I guess he makes due w/ his teammates poor showing once the playoffs start but hes not that good. His team needs to step it up once they are in in order to advance past the Elite 8. But he gets them in, which proves his worth. Its up to them to get to HIS level in the playoffs. B/C hes not Peyton Manning and he needs some actual pass protection.

tl:dr Romo gets them in the tourney, they need to step it up
 
cowboyvic;3942035 said:
Why! because we don't agree with you that Romo can do no wrong?

I just look at your avatar...and think, yeah! That's where his head is!



But, I give you credit...your'e still here....how, I have no clue!

Later, troll boy, and have a nice day.
 
MarionBarberThe4th;3942042 said:
The Cowboys sucked before Romo, he steps in and they consistently win. There you go. If he were as good as Peyton Manning I guess he makes due w/ his teammates poor showing once the playoffs start but hes not that good. His team needs to step it up once they are in in order to advance past the Elite 8. But he gets them in, which proves his worth. Its up to them to get to HIS level in the playoffs. B/C hes not Peyton Manning and he needs some actual pass protection.
Thank you.

Some people still don't understand that football is a team sport.
 
5Stars;3942046 said:
I just look at your avatar...and think, yeah! That's where his head is!



But, I give you credit...your'e still here....how, I have no clue!

Later, troll boy, and have a nice day.
I really feel sorry for guys like you. it's your opinion or you are a troll or Romo hater. i will not be forced into saying Romo is great until he proves it by winning something. im no troll, and neither is the guy who started this thread. we are fans who love the Cowboys, and want to see them win championships again . losing is not OK. just because we don't think Romo is the greatest like you do. does not mean we are trolls. but if that makes you feel better. go for it.
 
cowboyvic;3942056 said:
I really feel sorry for guys like you. it's your opinion or you are a troll or Romo hater. i will not be forced into saying Romo is great until he proves it by winning something. im no troll, and neither is the guy who started this thread. we are fans who love the Cowboys, and want to see them win championships again . losing is not OK. just because we don't think Romo is the greatest like you do. does not mean we are trolls. but if that makes you feel better. go for it.

Like I said, I just look at your avatar and consider the source.
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CowboyDan;3941892 said:
You're making my point for me, yet arguing against me. I'm saying that it's the talent of the player, not the equipment. However, I'm also saying that it cracks me up when Joe Average spends $500 bucks on a driver that he may use 12 times a round (may), but won't spend good money on a putter that he'll use 30+ times a round. It cracks me up. Why is this a point of contention?
My Nephew is the perfect example.....he's a 100 shooter. It doesn't matter if he uses my driver, irons or spikes! He shanks my driver into the woods, he shanks my irons into the woods just as far as he does his own. However, he likes the feel of my putter better than his...mostly because it's well balanced and has a 35" shaft. He's tall like me, so it fits him. He makes more puts with it. It's just the way it is. Now how many $30 putters have you seen with 35" shafts and perfect balance?

I'm arguing a "putter" doesn't make near as big a difference as a driver. A lot more goes into the technology of a driver from the head down to the shaft than what goes into a putter. If both the head and shaft of a driver aren't in tune with the skill level of a golfer it's not going to work for them. Even a tour pro can have major issues hitting a driver consistently if it's not fitted to their swing.

It takes hrs to fit a player accurately for a driver. With a putter it's mostly about feel and being able to line it up. I play in a lot of pro ams with tour players and have been fitted for clubs the same way they are.

Even Joe Average can benefit a lot from playing with properly fitted equipment.

Pro's have bought putters right off the rack at a pro shop just prior to a round of golf and putted well. You won't see them do that with a driver.

David Duval broke his driver on the range once during a tournament and didn't have a backup so he was forced to purchase a driver in the pro shop and only hit one fairway the entire round with it until a replacement driver fitted to his specs arrived the next day.

As for your nephew he likes the length and feel of your putter so he putts well with it. It's a $30 putter that happens to be the perfect balance for him. He could find the same putter somewhere else but it may feel totally different to him.

When you purchase a cheap putter it's the luck of the draw it's not nearly as big a crap shoot when you purchase a quality brand putter from Callaway, TaylorMade or some other golf company.

If you own a cheap driver that you hit as well as some of the more expensive tour drivers then keep using it. It's all about what you have confidence in.
 
Just want to clear one thing up... My putter is a $150 cobalt, not a $30 putter. You can't find a $30 putter with that kind of length and balance.

KJJ;3942168 said:
I'm arguing a "putter" doesn't make near as big a difference as a driver. A lot more goes into the technology of a driver from the head down to the shaft than what goes into a putter. If both the head and shaft of a driver aren't in tune with the skill level of a golfer it's not going to work for them. Even a tour pro can have major issues hitting a driver consistently if it's not fitted to their swing.

It takes hrs to fit a player accurately for a driver. With a putter it's mostly about feel and being able to line it up. I play in a lot of pro ams with tour players and have been fitted for clubs the same way they are.

Even Joe Average can benefit a lot from playing with properly fitted equipment.

Pro's have bought putters right off the rack at a pro shop just prior to a round of golf and putted well. You won't see them do that with a driver.

David Duval broke his driver on the range once during a tournament and didn't have a backup so he was forced to purchase a driver in the pro shop and only hit one fairway the entire round with it until a replacement driver fitted to his specs arrived the next day.

As for your nephew he likes the length and feel of your putter so he putts well with it. It's a $30 putter that happens to be the perfect balance for him. He could find the same putter somewhere else but it may feel totally different to him.

When you purchase a cheap putter it's the luck of the draw it's not nearly as big a crap shoot when you purchase a quality brand putter from Callaway, TaylorMade or some other golf company.

If you own a cheap driver that you hit as well as some of the more expensive tour drivers then keep using it. It's all about what you have confidence in.
 
CowboyDan;3942380 said:
Just want to clear one thing up... My putter is a $150 cobalt, not a $30 putter. You can't find a $30 putter with that kind of length and balance.

I wouldn't know I've never shopped for a $30 putter but obviously you've looked into it. :) So what driver do you use and how much did you pay for that?
 
KJJ;3942396 said:
I wouldn't know I've never shopped for a $30 putter but obviously you've looked into it. :) So what driver do you use and how much did you pay for that?

Like I said, my nephew is a 100+ beginner, I'm not gonna let him shell out major money till he gets the basics down and has a solid swing he can depend on. I help him shop for clubs that will fit his game and his budget. His biggest problem (as with most beginers) is his grip, followed by not keeping his head down, and trying to kill it. Ah, remember what it's like just starting out? :)

My driver is a 8.5* Cleveland Launcher 420 with an Aldilla (Las Vegas??) firm shaft that I bought used for $80. I love it.
 
CowboyDan;3942430 said:
Like I said, my nephew is a 100+ beginner, I'm not gonna let him shell out major money till he gets the basics down and has a solid swing he can depend on. I help him shop for clubs that will fit his game and his budget. His biggest problem (as with most beginers) is his grip, followed by not keeping his head down, and trying to kill it. Ah, remember what it's like just starting out? :)

My driver is a 8.5* Cleveland Launcher 420 with an Aldilla (Las Vegas??) firm shaft that I bought used for $80. I love it.


You said the $30 putter was yours and that it was perfectly balanced for your nephew so he's fine with the putter. Just do what you did with your driver and pick him up some quality used clubs that are designed for a high handicapper until his game improves.
 
cowboyvic;3942056 said:
im no troll

Yes you are ...... look at any of your posts, not just the ones about Romo.

It does not matter how many times you change your username.
 
I see more pros go through various putters and how they grip the putter than I see guys changing drivers. For me I notice a big difference when I changed out putters, I went out tried the various lengths of putters, weights and ball reaction coming off the face of the putter and there are some big differences out there.
 
KJJ;3942476 said:
You said the $30 putter was yours and that it was perfectly balanced for your nephew so he's fine with the putter. Just do what you did with your driver and pick him up some quality used clubs that are designed for a high handicapper until his game improves.

I guess it's all in how you read it, but what I was trying to say was that there is a significant difference in putter technology, too. I have a higher end putter and the benefits of it are perfect balance and a shaft sized to my height (which happens to be his height as well). When you go to Champs, you'll find a bunch of $30 putters....all the same size (30") and not very balanced. Most are heal heavy.

"My Nephew is the perfect example.....he's a 100 shooter. It doesn't matter if he uses my driver, irons or spikes! He shanks my driver into the woods, he shanks my irons into the woods just as far as he does his own. However, he likes the feel of my putter better than his...mostly because it's well balanced and has a 35" shaft. He's tall like me, so it fits him. He makes more puts with it. It's just the way it is. Now how many $30 putters have you seen with 35" shafts and perfect balance?"

Anyway, thanks for all your input.
 
CowboyDan;3942685 said:
I guess it's all in how you read it, but what I was trying to say was that there is a significant difference in putter technology, too. I have a higher end putter and the benefits of it are perfect balance and a shaft sized to my height (which happens to be his height as well). When you go to Champs, you'll find a bunch of $30 putters....all the same size (30") and not very balanced. Most are heal heavy.

"My Nephew is the perfect example.....he's a 100 shooter. It doesn't matter if he uses my driver, irons or spikes! He shanks my driver into the woods, he shanks my irons into the woods just as far as he does his own. However, he likes the feel of my putter better than his...mostly because it's well balanced and has a 35" shaft. He's tall like me, so it fits him. He makes more puts with it. It's just the way it is. Now how many $30 putters have you seen with 35" shafts and perfect balance?"

Anyway, thanks for all your input.

Never said putters haven't improved through the years but they haven't improved nearly as much as the driver. Some putters still have the same look as putters from 30 years ago.

The Ping Anser really hasn't changed much in 40 years and some players still use the original.

There's no piece of golf equipment other than maybe the hybrid that's improved the average players game more than these big headed drivers. Driving the ball went from being the worst part of my game to the best part of my game with the advancements in driver technology.

You can practically get away with murder with drivers today and still be in play plus the distance has improved significantly over the old steel headed drivers. My 3 wood which is a 13 degree Tour Exotics is 15 yards longer than my old steel headed driver from 23 years ago.

Anyway we've beaten this topic so much I may try and squeeze in 18 holes today.
 
KJJ;3942956 said:
Anyway we've beaten this topic so much I may try and squeeze in 18 holes today.

Here, use my putter today....;)

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Golfing? Oh, no.

Next you'll tell me thuis shlub will take on the distraction of a wife soon.

Cut him.
 

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