Romo Has A Serious Problem Accurately Throwing The Football...

[DeaconBlues]

Point I was getting at here is that Romo didn't have to throw the ball downfield,he had an underneath option that was a higher percentage play.

I've seen 3 or 4 different angles on that play,on some angles it looks like a catchable ball.On other angles it looks like it would take a heck of an effort for Roy to get in position.Personally I think Romo was off,now if he had been on target all game I would put it on Roy.Either way it is said and done now and there is nothing that we can do about it.

Craig

How much effort does it take to catch a ball that hits you, in stride, in the arm?
Turning around and looking?

 

[Bleu Star]

Romo Has A Serious Problem Accurately Throwing The Football...

Unfortunately for Romo, his #1 WR has now proven himself enough to get double teamed and his #2 WR wouldn't know an "accurate" route if it hit him squarely in his piehole. This isn't on Romo.

 

[Bach]

Did you honestly post this with a straight face?

c'mon Adam, give me some stats or at least some salary cap info.

 

[RoadRunner]

Romo's accuracy has been off since the broken finger.

 

[InmanRoshi]

2009 completion percentage..............60.0 % (198 out of 330, NFL.com)

2009 QB rating................................91.5


2008 completion percentage..............61.3%

2008 QB rating................................91.4


The numbers are almost identical between last year and this year. This percepion that Romo is in a slump or something is just pure fantasy. He is playing at the exact same level he played at last year and that is pretty close to his career average as well (about 62%).

Romo is going to complete between 60-62% of his passes and this number has been stable throughout his career. Like I said, this perception that he is not very accurate or is struggling this year compared to past seasons is just pure fiction.

The numbers dont lie.

But ... but ... but ... your numbers don't confirm my preconceived bias I had coming into the thread, that means your numbers have to be wrong or "don't tell the whole story".

And here is where I use the "There are three types of lies .. lies, damn lies and statistics" hackneyed, cliche to refute it ... you can't come back from that. It's a quote from the intrawebs, and that trumps everything. You probably spent 5 minutes looking up those numbers, and I just destroyed it by typing that tired cliche in seconds. Don't you feel silly?

And here's where I say "Put your numbers away and watch the games !!!!". Now you've really been burned. Your facts can't do nothing now ... you've been schooled !!! I watched the games. Of course, you probably did too. But I REALLY watched it. I watched the game extra hard. That means your numbers are wrong.

 

[cowboyed]

Not in that 4th quarter. Romo threw some of the most impressive passes to Witten i've ever seen him throw. He was throwing in some tight spaces.

You stole my posting thunder. In the 4th quarter particularly that last series he lasered his passes and he was dead on. Remember how excited Witten got when he drilled that one pass in between two defenders and Witten caught it and there was nothing those defenders could do about it.

Also that one intermediate pass to Austin to convert a third and long was pretty damn sweet too and perfectly timed as Austin broke off his route.

 

[RoadRunner]

But ... but ... but ... your numbers don't confirm my preconceived bias I had coming into the thread, that means your numbers have to be wrong or "don't tell the whole story".

And here is where I use the "There are three types of lies .. lies, damn lies and statistics" hackneyed, cliche to refute it ... you can't come back from that. It's a quote from the intrawebs, and that trumps everything. You probably spent 5 minutes looking up those numbers, and I just destroyed it by typing that tired cliche in seconds. Don't you feel silly?

And here's where I say "Put your numbers away and watch the games !!!!". Now you've really been burned. Your facts can't do nothing now ... you've been schooled !!! I watched the games. Of course, you probably did too. But I REALLY watched it. I watched the game extra hard. That means your numbers are wrong.

Ask him to break down how many were dump offs versus mid to long range passes. Anybody with a set of eyeballs can see that Romo has lost some accuracy since the broken finger early last season.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Ask him to break down how many were dump offs versus mid to long range passes. Anybody with a set of eyeballs can see that Romo has lost some accuracy since the broken finger early last season.

In other words, "the stats don't tell the whole story" and you "watched the games"?

 

[Kevinicus]

In other words, "the stats don't tell the whole story" and you "watched the games"?

Actually someone else already pointed out the stats that do tell the whole story and show Romo's steep drop in accuracy, but you skipped over that.

 

[MapleLeaf]

You might be on to something there. If he did work to change from a 3/4 release to more of an overhead release that could be affecting his accuracy.
That along with some sloppy footwork.

...they had been working with Tony to stay in the pocket more and move forward in the pocket ala Tom Brady.

I think I read somewhere where Romo was telling the journalist that he was actually watching film on Brady to emulate some of the footwork Brady uses.

If the goal is to keep Romo in the pocket then a higher release point would be reasonable.

Similar to what they were trying to do with David Carr at the Texans. A higher release gives you a better chance to throw over the rushing lineman's hands.

 

[craig71]

...they had been working with Tony to stay in the pocket more and move forward in the pocket ala Tom Brady.

I think I read somewhere where Romo was telling the journalist that he was actually watching film on Brady to emulate some of the footwork Brady uses.

If the goal is to keep Romo in the pocket then a higher release point would be reasonable.

Similar to what they were trying to do with David Carr at the Texans. A higher release gives you a better chance to throw over the rushing lineman's hands.

Part of the problem was that he was getting "happy feet" and hopping around in the pocket.When he started doing that Romo saw that he was creeping back towards the line on film.Basically he started out with a 7 step drop and short hopped back towards the line to a 3 step depth.In order to get out of that habit he started studying Brady and the way Brady stood in the pocket.He started trying to emulate Brady after the 2007 season.

Craig

 

[JBell]

How to get a platinum thread 101: Say something extremely ridiculous.

 

[coblue]

Maybe Garrett should take advantage of Romo's ridiculous release and try and get the ball out quickly, instead of playing shotgun and having Romo just survery the field and dance in the pocket to wait for a receiver to eventually get open... meaning maybe Garrett should actually learn how to coach...

Does Garrett have any responsibility in trying to get Romo into a rhythm, instead of trying to make him find a WR deep everytime?

Wait, this would be a double negative because we have repeatedly been told Romo can't read defenses and progress to second and third options either.

Look, I would like to know why more and more of his passes are high, but its not like its anywhere near panic levels.

I am encouraged that he has matured a great deal this year. You can see he has a ways to go though with the skill of being patient when those around you don't perform up to standard and when he is making mistakes himself. A lot of talk about about Newman's losing his mind on Campo, but Romo openly shakes his head at the playcalling and poor execution. Its understandable, but he will learn he has to lead by example and force and get Garrett and whoever to do better by encouragement and guidance.

 

[Beast_from_East]

But ... but ... but ... your numbers don't confirm my preconceived bias I had coming into the thread, that means your numbers have to be wrong or "don't tell the whole story".

And here is where I use the "There are three types of lies .. lies, damn lies and statistics" hackneyed, cliche to refute it ... you can't come back from that. It's a quote from the intrawebs, and that trumps everything. You probably spent 5 minutes looking up those numbers, and I just destroyed it by typing that tired cliche in seconds. Don't you feel silly?

And here's where I say "Put your numbers away and watch the games !!!!". Now you've really been burned. Your facts can't do nothing now ... you've been schooled !!! I watched the games. Of course, you probably did too. But I REALLY watched it. I watched the game extra hard. That means your numbers are wrong.

:laugh1:

 

[Beast_from_East]

Ask him to break down how many were dump offs versus mid to long range passes. Anybody with a set of eyeballs can see that Romo has lost some accuracy since the broken finger early last season.

Those are YEARLY numbers.

Anybody can cherry pick certain types of passes or passes against certain defensive fronts, ect.....By using annual numbers that smooths out game to game comparisons or even series to series comparisons.

In other words, you cant just look at short passes verses long passes, you have to look at all pass attempts in one season verses all pass attempts in another season. That way you have a large sample size that is not affected by outliers and since we have used the same offensive system the percentage of short range passes to long range passes should be close to the same in back to back seasons.

The fact that the YEARLY numbers for 2008 and 2009 are almost identical, there is no statistical evidence to support the hypothesis that Romo has suffered a decrease in his accuracy.

In fact, Romo's 2009 QB rating is actually slightly higher than his 2008 QB rating. Thus, the argument could be made that Romo is actually having a better season even thought the perception is that he is in a slump currently.

 

[Ender]

I really think we should trade Romo, time to rebuild..........lol

 

[CCBoy]

...they had been working with Tony to stay in the pocket more and move forward in the pocket ala Tom Brady.

I think I read somewhere where Romo was telling the journalist that he was actually watching film on Brady to emulate some of the footwork Brady uses.

If the goal is to keep Romo in the pocket then a higher release point would be reasonable.

Similar to what they were trying to do with David Carr at the Texans. A higher release gives you a better chance to throw over the rushing lineman's hands.

Flatline isn't the complete and real deal. Good points...

as Romo needs to be able to put some air under a number of his intermediate to long passes to allow receivers to do some of the creation in their receptions.

I'm all for drills for Romo where he works on quick releases and accuracy as well. What Warner did intensely before he got to the top regions in delivery.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Romo's accuracy has been off since the broken finger.

And if it doesn't change I believe Garrett and Wilson will be gone and the way the offensive line has been playing with penelties and it's not changing, Hudson Houck job is in jepadory.
:starspin

 

[cowboyed]

No one contends that the Cowboys have zero issues to work or overcome but you would think some of these Negative Nancies were watching a version of 2012 unfolding this season.

Why don't you just go ahead and soothe your angst ridden souls with Adam Lambert's 'Time For Miracles' then. Better yet how about his American Music Award version of 'This Is For Your Entertainment'.

 

[TheGoat73]

The guy is not a good stand in the pocket qb - his strengths are his agility and ability to scramble and improvise. Roll him out of the pocket 4 or 5 times a game...let him scramble upfield a few times. It will change the dimension of his game and make it much more difficult on the opposing defense.

If we don't play to his strengths, might as well get another qb because he's going to be hot and cold in this scheme. He'll have really awful games followed by a suberb all star type game.

It's hard to watch right now.

Spot on!