Romo Has A Serious Problem Accurately Throwing The Football...

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Maybe Garrett should take advantage of Romo's ridiculous release and try and get the ball out quickly, instead of playing shotgun and having Romo just survery the field and dance in the pocket to wait for a receiver to eventually get open... meaning maybe Garrett should actually learn how to coach...

Does Garrett have any responsibility in trying to get Romo into a rhythm, instead of trying to make him find a WR deep everytime?
 

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khiladi;3097318 said:
Maybe Garrett should take advantage of Romo's ridiculous release and try and get the ball out quickly, instead of playing shotgun and having Romo just survery the field and dance in the pocket to wait for a receiver to eventually get open... meaning maybe Garrett should actually learn how to coach...

Does Garrett have any responsibility in trying to get Romo into a rhythm, instead of trying to make him find a WR deep everytime?

On one of the throws to Williams,Romo had Witten underneath.Williams had 3 defenders in close proximity.Witten had a little room to pick up some positive yards,not big yards but it would have been a positive play.

Is it all on Romo for the offensive doldrums that we are in,absolutely not.By the same token it's not all on Garrett either.Whatever the solution is,it needs to be found though.One problem I do see with the three step drop are a lack of passing lanes,the last thing they need is balls getting batted in the air.Now if the line can create some passing lanes that would help relieve some of the pressure,but the line is going to have to man up first.


Craig
 

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Hook'em#11;3096367 said:
They won.. That is all I care about.

I am completely wishfully thinking, but, if somehow they make the playoffs, maybe win one. If that happened, I could care less how accurate he is not being.

I am not a huge Romo supporter, as is known, but, the dude has been accurate in his past. Just not playing well right now, nor is the case around him. This is still a team game. And that was a team win yesterday.


"We should cut him the same day we cut Roy. Both are dead to us now."

LOL< No doubt. Where the hell is Richmond Flowers and Chad Hutchison when ya need them!!!!

2009 completion percentage..............60.0 % (198 out of 330, NFL.com)

2009 QB rating................................91.5


2008 completion percentage..............61.3%

2008 QB rating................................91.4


The numbers are almost identical between last year and this year. This percepion that Romo is in a slump or something is just pure fantasy. He is playing at the exact same level he played at last year and that is pretty close to his career average as well (about 62%).

Romo is going to complete between 60-62% of his passes and this number has been stable throughout his career. Like I said, this perception that he is not very accurate or is struggling this year compared to past seasons is just pure fiction.

The numbers dont lie.
 

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craig71;3097337 said:
On one of the throws to Williams,Romo had Witten underneath.Williams had 3 defenders in close proximity.Witten had a little room to pick up some positive yards,not big yards but it would have been a positive play.

The probem is, Garrett has created this big-play mentality with his deep-routes... This offense has consistently tried to put the onus on Romo to make big plays downfield... They don't try and establish a rhythm with him...

Look at the Patriots... They throw downfield, but they work the middle with Wes Welker and get the ball out of Brady's hands quickly in the short passing game.. They create so much spacing, that they isolate Welker on LBs all the time...
 

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khiladi;3097351 said:
The probem is, Garrett has created this big-play mentality with his deep-routes... This offense has consistently tried to put the onus on Romo to make big plays downfield... They don't try and establish a rhythm with him...

Look at the Patriots... They throw downfield, but they work the middle with Wes Welker and get the ball out of Brady's hands quickly in the short passing game.. They create so much spacing, that they isolate Welker on LBs all the time...


There is no doubt that they are "addicted" to the big play.I also don't see a problem with having a deep route,provided you run a tight end or a back underneath,there should be some space cleared out by the deep route.I also think the big play mentality was here before Garrett arrived on the scene,Romo to Glenn or T.O. was a hot connection when Parcells was here.

Craig
 

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aikemirv;3096193 said:
By the way, Romo's pocket is atrocious. The T are letting people off the edge almost every time and Romo has to step up in the pocket almost every time and the middle is not holding it's ground and thus he has no room to step into throws.

You watch a NO game or a Indy game and see what kind of pocket they have compared to the Cowboys and get back to me!

I think you nailed it. When I watch the pocket Brees, Brady, Manning and even Ben Roethlisberger get it makes me envious. Tony does not trust his protection right now and rightfully so. Flozell Adams has whiffed completely too many times now for Tony to be confident and thus he ends up hurrying his throws. And your right he does not have the room to step up in the pocket on most occasions.
 

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Beast_from_East;3097338 said:
2009 completion percentage..............60.0 % (198 out of 330, NFL.com)

2009 QB rating................................91.5


2008 completion percentage..............61.3%

2008 QB rating................................91.4


The numbers are almost identical between last year and this year. This percepion that Romo is in a slump or something is just pure fantasy. He is playing at the exact same level he played at last year and that is pretty close to his career average as well (about 62%).

Romo is going to complete between 60-62% of his passes and this number has been stable throughout his career. Like I said, this perception that he is not very accurate or is struggling this year compared to past seasons is just pure fiction.

The numbers dont lie.
except if you look at romo pre and post injury

it's 64% then 59%.

i don't see how you can look at romo this year and think he's the same for his career.

pre-injury 2008, he looked like drew brees. everything was in sync. wrs were catching balls in stride.

there's something wrong. romo/wrs/garrett
 

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khiladi;3097351 said:
The probem is, Garrett has created this big-play mentality with his deep-routes... This offense has consistently tried to put the onus on Romo to make big plays downfield... They don't try and establish a rhythm with him...

Look at the Patriots... They throw downfield, but they work the middle with Wes Welker and get the ball out of Brady's hands quickly in the short passing game.. They create so much spacing, that they isolate Welker on LBs all the time...
this team doesn't have a wes welker.

so i think garrett runs the deep routes because that's all he's got at wr.
 

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craig71;3097337 said:
On one of the throws to Williams,Romo had Witten underneath.Williams had 3 defenders in close proximity.Witten had a little room to pick up some positive yards,not big yards but it would have been a positive play.


Craig

I rewatched the game and that was a beautiful throw, it hit Roy Williams in the arm, in stride between 3 defenders. Just a perfect throw. Just a horrible effort by Williams.

The problem with Romo's completion percentage this year is simple, he wears #11.

I posted this a couple of weeks ago, Romo's completion percentage jumped from 60% to 65% if you took away all the Williams targets, that was 2 weeks ago, but I don't think that's changed.
 

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tecolote;3097432 said:
I rewatched the game and that was a beautiful throw, it hit Roy Williams in the arm, in stride between 3 defenders. Just a perfect throw. Just a horrible effort by Williams.

The problem with Romo's completion percentage this year is simple, he wears #11.

I posted this a couple of weeks ago, Romo's completion percentage jumped from 60% to 65% if you took away all the Williams targets, that was 2 weeks ago, but I don't think that's changed.

Point I was getting at here is that Romo didn't have to throw the ball downfield,he had an underneath option that was a higher percentage play.

I've seen 3 or 4 different angles on that play,on some angles it looks like a catchable ball.On other angles it looks like it would take a heck of an effort for Roy to get in position.Personally I think Romo was off,now if he had been on target all game I would put it on Roy.Either way it is said and done now and there is nothing that we can do about it.

Craig
 

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Boy, do we have some dumb fans.

Ya think maybe that knee to his back had anything to do with his issues yesterday?
 

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Silver N Blue;3096920 said:
That is why I just posted his stats from this year...8th in the NFL...60% comp... yeah terrible year...

8th in yardage....this thread is about accuracy.

Nobody said he's having a terrible year, but he has had some VERY off throws this year, even on short throws to Witten.
 

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CaptainAmerica;3096148 said:
...and if he doesn't get it corrected we aren't going to accomplish anything this season.

Imo, his inaccuracy throwing the ball (mainly high) is mainly a result of poor mechanincs. You can't blame it on a sore back because he's had the problem since the Tampa Bay game.

I watched him closely on a replay when he overthrew a WR down the fiield. The angle was from behind the LOS. It was obvious he didn't set his feet and he threw the ball moving backwards and to the side.

I understand the pass rush can be the cause of that at times but I will never forget what Phil Simms said earlier this year on Inside the NFL. He said the main thing that concerned him about Romo was not the occasional int, it was the alarming number of inaccurate passes that he does not complete that should be routine throws for an NFL QB.

That was a shocking statement to me!

You would have to blame to Quarterback coach and the offensive cordinator. Romo has to be prepared for the game by someone or some people. Those people are the Quarterback coach which controls the whole Quarterback unit productivity. Wade Wilson is on a short chain so, if Romo isn't all that accurate blame it on Wilson, a more successful Quarterback coach will have Romo on point.

Blame the offensive cordinator because he's apart of the problem too. He see this week in and week out from Romo and it doesn't change, so it's like why is Romo constantly doing the same thing. If Garrett isn't replace this season, I believe that the Quarterback Coach will if Romo doesn't change.

We need the Quarterback coach of New Orleans Saints.....
 

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tecolote;3097432 said:
I rewatched the game and that was a beautiful throw, it hit Roy Williams in the arm, in stride between 3 defenders. Just a perfect throw. Just a horrible effort by Williams.

The problem with Romo's completion percentage this year is simple, he wears #11.

I posted this a couple of weeks ago, Romo's completion percentage jumped from 60% to 65% if you took away all the Williams targets, that was 2 weeks ago, but I don't think that's changed.
Agreed.

I'd go a step further and say Roy's drops/fumbles/poor play are the main thing wrong with this offense.
 

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Thatkidbob;3097512 said:
Agreed.

I'd go a step further and say Roy's drops/fumbles/poor play are the main thing wrong with this offense.

What people fail to understand, Romo lack of consistency falls back on the Quarterback coach. From playing football, I know that every positional coach suppose to have his unit ready come game time and the offensive cordinator suppose to have the whole unit running smoothly.
 

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CaptainAmerica;3096148 said:
...and if he doesn't get it corrected we aren't going to accomplish anything this season.

Imo, his inaccuracy throwing the ball (mainly high) is mainly a result of poor mechanincs. You can't blame it on a sore back because he's had the problem since the Tampa Bay game.

I watched him closely on a replay when he overthrew a WR down the fiield. The angle was from behind the LOS. It was obvious he didn't set his feet and he threw the ball moving backwards and to the side.

I understand the pass rush can be the cause of that at times but I will never forget what Phil Simms said earlier this year on Inside the NFL. He said the main thing that concerned him about Romo was not the occasional int, it was the alarming number of inaccurate passes that he does not complete that should be routine throws for an NFL QB.

That was a shocking statement to me!
He did get kneed in the kidney ya know, required a pain shot just to get to the interview. Maybe that had something to do wit it. :rolleyes:
 

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I think he has a problem overthrowing or throwing too high. Maybe he is scared of the ball getting tipped and int'ed i dunno.
 

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craig71;3097454 said:
Point I was getting at here is that Romo didn't have to throw the ball downfield,he had an underneath option that was a higher percentage play.

I've seen 3 or 4 different angles on that play,on some angles it looks like a catchable ball.On other angles it looks like it would take a heck of an effort for Roy to get in position.Personally I think Romo was off,now if he had been on target all game I would put it on Roy.Either way it is said and done now and there is nothing that we can do about it.

Craig

...and right here...right here is the unnerving thing about the Williams-Romo connnection...he had one tipped incomplete, the apparent overthrow deep left and the two high ones over the middle...if you disregard the first two and he catches one of the last two, what would've really changed yesterday?...a catch rate of 25% [1-4]is simply not acceptable, whether it be Roy or Tony who's ultimately responsible...after this game is catch rate for the season may be south of 40%...the top 15-20 receivers average around 60-80%

...these two fellas have about 2 weeks to hammer this out or else...
 

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dfense;3097525 said:
He did get kneed in the kidney ya know, required a pain shot just to get to the interview. Maybe that had something to do wit it. :rolleyes:

Did you read the thread and have you watched every game this year? It's not a one game thing. He's been throwing high all year. It started in the TB game.
 
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