Romo in Redzone

[Stautner]

While it is true that Romo didn't have time to go through his progression, that still doesn't change the fact that it was a very ill advised throw.

It appeared that he had his mind made up in advance where he was going to throw the ball, which cannot be condemned in and of itself. When you see the defensive front is going to come after you the QB has to make the read and be prepared to get rid of the ball quickly. The problem is that the deep safety was just sitting back in the same zone the throw was going to, and as it turned out had a much better shot at catching the pass than TO did. It was Romo's job to be aware of the defensive alignment and not throw into double coverage like that.

I assume Romo thought he could rifle the ball into TO before the safety help got there ........ now he knows better - hopefully.

 

[Doomsday101]

While it is true that Romo didn't have time to go through his progression, that still doesn't change the fact that it was a very ill advised throw.

It appeared that he had his mind made up in advance where he was going to throw the ball, which cannot be condemned in and of itself. When you see the defensive front is going to come after you the QB has to make the read and be prepared to get rid of the ball quickly. The problem is that the deep safety was just sitting back in the same zone the throw was going to, and as it turned out had a much better shot at catching the pass than TO did. It was Romo's job to be aware of the defensive alignment and not throw into double coverage like that.

I assume Romo thought he could rifle the ball into TO before the safety help got there ........ now he knows better - hopefully.

Troy would do the same with Irvin at time even with a double on Mike. Romo went to his guy

 

[aikemirv]

While it is true that Romo didn't have time to go through his progression, that still doesn't change the fact that it was a very ill advised throw.

It appeared that he had his mind made up in advance where he was going to throw the ball, which cannot be condemned in and of itself. When you see the defensive front is going to come after you the QB has to make the read and be prepared to get rid of the ball quickly. The problem is that the deep safety was just sitting back in the same zone the throw was going to, and as it turned out had a much better shot at catching the pass than TO did. It was Romo's job to be aware of the defensive alignment and not throw into double coverage like that.

I assume Romo thought he could rifle the ball into TO before the safety help got there ........ now he knows better - hopefully.

That ball was 2-3 ft overthrown. To add this to your position that he is careless is more of a stretch than to say that he missed Witten. I guess you wanted him to take the sack rather than throw it away.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Anyone who says , for a fact that Romo missed Witten needs to have full field camera to show me the timing of the rush, Witten breaking free, and the Safety move.

Without that you are just blowing smoke!

I'm kinda of thinking, those "idiot announcers", did, don't you?


BTW, :horse:

 

[aikemirv]

I'm kinda of thinking, those "idiot announcers", did, don't you?


BTW, :horse:

I did not call them idiot announcers and I know Aikman did not freeze the play before he said that.

 

[Doomsday101]

I did not call them idiot announcers and I know Aikman did not freeze the play before he said that.

Troy was also sitting up high in the booth and was not under pressure. As a QB Troy was known to do the same thing Romo did except he was going to Irvin.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Romo did what you do.. he when to the WR that makes plays.. and he put the ball where if anyone was going to catch it, only TO had a shot.. which he didn't either because it was to high. Witten was not open on that play. The Saftey broke towards TO once the ball was in the air.

But i don't know that i have ever seen both backs in an I formation, go thru the same hole and run the same route on a passing play before.. i wonder if that was by design or if someone missed an assignment.

 

[dbair1967]

Ok, everybody keeps saying Romo missed Witten for a TD because that's what the idiot announcers said.

But, on that play, Romo got creamed on a blitz. McQ missed a block, I'm pretty sure, and Romo just got the ball out. If you're throwing up a jump ball, who you gonna throw to?

Obviously, TO was first progression. That's All Romo had time for on that play. Rewatch it. If Witten is his 2nd progression, and we get the block, I have no doubt Romo finds him.

I don't know about the other one he supposedly missed, to Fasano

its a freaking preseason game folks...it doesnt matter

David

 

[Cowboy4ever]

its a freaking preseason game folks...it doesnt matter

David

This is the first real football game in 7 months.. let us feed our habit man!!

 

[Stautner]

That ball was 2-3 ft overthrown. To add this to your position that he is careless is more of a stretch than to say that he missed Witten. I guess you wanted him to take the sack rather than throw it away.

The throw tipped the safety's fingers and then landed only 4 yards in the endzone.

You still aren't helping Romo's case because now you are saying he screwed up trying to throw the ball away.

When you throw the ball away, you damn sure better throw it away. That doesn't mean you throw it where someone can get a hand on it, it means you throw it so far out of reach that no one can even come close to touching it. You make sure there isn't going to be even so much as a moment where it is in doubt if the defender can catch the ball.

If he was throwing it away he damn sure did a poor job of it.

But the fact is that if the safety had taken only a slightly deeper path to TO he could have picked it off.

Besides, he started the throw before he even knew what path the safety would take - although I don't hink he ever took the safety into account from the beginning.

I believe it's incredibly clear he was trying to put the ball in TO's reach. He may have wanted it where TO had some chance but the CB didn't, but that still doesn't account for the safety.

 

[Stautner]

Romo did what you do.. he when to the WR that makes plays.. and he put the ball where if anyone was going to catch it, only TO had a shot.. which he didn't either because it was to high. Witten was not open on that play. The Saftey broke towards TO once the ball was in the air.

But i don't know that i have ever seen both backs in an I formation, go thru the same hole and run the same route on a passing play before.. i wonder if that was by design or if someone missed an assignment.

Then explain to me why the safety got a hand on the ball and TO didn't .......

 

[WV Cowboy]

And, while the safety was a bit deep, I think he was in position to handle wherever the ball went.

That's what happened, the safety didn't break away from Witten until the ball was in the air.

Had the ball gone to Witten he would have been able to make a play on him as well.

Romo was 10-11 and all some can talk about is the one that was incomplete, ... amazing.:insane:

 

[Stautner]

That's what happened, the safety didn't break away from Witten until the ball was in the air.

Had the ball gone to Witten he would have been able to make a play on him as well.

Romo was 10-11 and all some can talk about is the one that was incomplete, ... amazing.:insane:

First, the safety was the ONLY player on Witten. so a throw to the outside would have been very tough for him to defend. On the other hand, TO had a man on his inside and outside.

Second, even if the safety were close enough to make a play had the throw gone to Witten, that doesn't in the least change the fact that he was also close enough to make a play when the throw went to TO, so it was still an ill-advised throw.

Third, no one is saying that Romo sucked because he missed on this pass - it's just a topic of discussion. That's why this board exists ..... right?

Fourth, being 10-11 is great, but you still have to get the team in the endzone to win games. I'm not worried at this point, but there have been a lot of teams in the past that move the ball well between the 20's but struggle in the red zone. It's not so unusual that fans would hope to see us have success in the red zone.

 

[WV Cowboy]

First, the safety was the ONLY player on Witten. so a throw to the outside would have been very tough for him to defend. On the other hand, TO had a man on his inside and outside.

Second, even if the safety were close enough to make a play had the throw gone to Witten, that doesn't in the least change the fact that he was also close enough to make a play when the throw went to TO, so it was still an ill-advised throw.

You're right, ... Romo wasn't perfect.

 

[Doomsday101]

Fourth, being 10-11 is great, but you still have to get the team in the endzone to win games. I'm not worried at this point, but there have been a lot of teams in the past that move the ball well between the 20's but struggle in the red zone. It's not so unusual that fans would hope to see us have success in the red zone.

From e-mail: Did Tony Romo ever throw into the endzone last night? Would have like to see a fade to one of our bigger receivers. Is this part of the game plan? Ben W.

Todd Archer: I asked him that after the game and he said they didn't have much of their red zone package in the plan. He said he saw Anthony Fasano breaking free, but he was under pressure so decided to dump it off to Marion Barber. Maybe if it's later in the game and they need a touchdown he takes that chance. The Colts played nothing but safeties over the top, so the Cowboys went with the tight ends Thursday.

 

[Stautner]

You're right, ... Romo wasn't perfect.

I already said I didn't expect him to be and that I wasn't worried about this.

Apparently you are one of those irrational posters who cannot focus on a specific topic.

Guys like you view a comment that a guy screwed up one play as meaning the guy sucks and screwed up the entire game.

Now try and understand - we are analyzing a single play ONLY - I am not commenting about Romo in general and I am not saying this is a defining play ...........

Now try and grasp that before responding.

From e-mail: Did Tony Romo ever throw into the endzone last night? Would have like to see a fade to one of our bigger receivers. Is this part of the game plan? Ben W.

Todd Archer: I asked him that after the game and he said they didn't have much of their red zone package in the plan. He said he saw Anthony Fasano breaking free, but he was under pressure so decided to dump it off to Marion Barber. Maybe if it's later in the game and they need a touchdown he takes that chance. The Colts played nothing but safeties over the top, so the Cowboys went with the tight ends Thursday.

Great - I haven't been discussing this play at all, so it is irrelevent to the discussion.

Besides, I never said the red zone was a problem for Romo, and in fact clearly said I wasn't worried about it. All I said was that sometimes teams do have that problem so it's understandable that fans would want evidence that their team doesn't.

 

[Doomsday101]

I already said I didn't expect him to be and that I wasn't worried about this.

Apparently you are one of those irrational posters who cannot focus on a specific topic.

Guys like you view a comment that a guy screwed up one play as meaning the guy sucks and screwed up the entire game.

Now try and understand - we are analyzing a single play ONLY - I am not commenting about Romo in general and I am not saying this is a defining play ...........

Now try and grasp that before responding.



Great - I haven't been discussing this play at all, so it is irrelevent to the discussion.

Besides, I never said the red zone was a problem for Romo, and in fact clearly said I wasn't worried about it. All I said was that sometimes teams do have that problem so it's understandable that fans would want evidence that their team doesn't.

I was only referring to the red zone comment.

 

[dargonking999]

I already said I didn't expect him to be and that I wasn't worried about this.

Apparently you are one of those irrational posters who cannot focus on a specific topic.

Guys like you view a comment that a guy screwed up one play as meaning the guy sucks and screwed up the entire game.

Now try and understand - we are analyzing a single play ONLY - I am not commenting about Romo in general and I am not saying this is a defining play ...........

Now try and grasp that before responding.



Great - I haven't been discussing this play at all, so it is irrelevent to the discussion.

Besides, I never said the red zone was a problem for Romo, and in fact clearly said I wasn't worried about it. All I said was that sometimes teams do have that problem so it's understandable that fans would want evidence that their team doesn't.

You know what's annoying about you

It's always,

"i never said it was a problem, i was just pointing it out"
"I never said i was worrie about it, in fact i said i wasn't worried about it"
"I never said i was mad about it, i was just merly telling you my thoughts"

You never did anything, once people prove you wrong.

 

[Stautner]

I was only referring to the red zone comment.

I just went back and read your quote and I still don't quite see how it applies to what I said.

But one thing that stuck out at me when I re-read it is Romo's comment that he threw to TE's because the Colts had safeties over the top ......... kind of makes you wonder why he didn't notice that on the throw to TO.

 

[Stautner]

You know what's annoying about you

It's always,

"i never said it was a problem, i was just pointing it out"
"I never said i was worrie about it, in fact i said i wasn't worried about it"
"I never said i was mad about it, i was just merly telling you my thoughts"

You never did anything, once people prove you wrong.

If you actually read my words and attempted to comprehend I wouldn't have to repeat what I said over and over. Instead you choose to read words that aren't there and base an irrational argument around that.

You really should make an effort to understand the discusssion before piping in - it would save you a lot of annoyance ..........

My discussion, and those of others earlier in this thread, was merely that Romo made a mistake on this play. Period. I think I went on further to say it didn't bother me at this point because I suspect he will look at the game tapes and learn from the mistake.