Romo in Redzone

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aikemirv;1583682 said:
I did not call them idiot announcers and I know Aikman did not freeze the play before he said that.

My mistake. I attributed the original post to the wrong quoted 1. Sorry! :)
 

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Stautner;1583777 said:
I just went back and read your quote and I still don't quite see how it applies to what I said.

But one thing that stuck out at me when I re-read it is Romo's comment that he threw to TE's because the Colts had safeties over the top ......... kind of makes you wonder why he didn't notice that on the throw to TO.

He had pressure in his face and saw TO, he may not have seen the Safety come off Witten. For anyone to claim that he should have looked to his 2nd option may as well have just said he should have taken the sack because there was no time for a second option. He went to his big play guy and allowed him to fight for the ball and many QB's do the same with their primary WR when they are under pressure
 

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Stautner;1583785 said:
If you actually read my words and attempted to comprehend I wouldn't have to repeat what I said over and over. Instead you choose to read words that aren't there and base an irrational argument around that.

You really should make an effort to understand the discusssion before piping in - it would save you a lot of annoyance ..........

My discussion, and those of others earlier in this thread, was merely that Romo made a mistake on this play. Period. I think I went on further to say it didn't bother me at this point because I suspect he will look at the game tapes and learn from the mistake.

Well, I will say that Romo made no mistake on the play and the mistake was in the Oline and Romo got rid of the ball, no defender had a chance to catch it, whether he barely got a fingernail on it at all, and they will look at the film and say "good job"
 

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Doomsday101;1583791 said:
He had pressure in his face and saw TO, he may not have seen the Safety come off Witten. For anyone to claim that he should have looked to his 2nd option may as well have just said he should have taken the sack because there was no time for a second option. He went to his big play guy and allowed him to fight for the ball and many QB's do the same with their primary WR when they are under pressure


I am not disputing that he didn't have time to look to his second option. What I am saying is that he shouldn't have had to wait for the safety to break on TO before he knew the safety was there covering the play.

The safety merely did what safeties do - he watched what was happening and broke on the ball. Romo should have been aware of the safety being in the position he was.

If TO had been songle covered without the safety looming I would feel differently about letting TO fight for the ball, but with double coverage its a different story. Especially in the red zone where you are almost a lock to at least get 3 points as long as you don't turn the ball over.

I still have a hard time viewing this as giving TO a chance to fight for the ball anyway. This wasn't a lob pass that he could adjust to or out jump a defender, and it wasn't a corner route where Romo could put the ball close to the sideline where a defender would have to interfer to get to the ball - it was a straight, quick hit to a receiver streking down the middle.

Frankly, as I've said before, I think Romo, in his haste to get rid of the ball quickly, just forgot about the safety and forced a bad throw.

And as I said before, I suspect it will be a learning experience for him.
 

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aikemirv;1583801 said:
Well, I will say that Romo made no mistake on the play and the mistake was in the Oline and Romo got rid of the ball, no defender had a chance to catch it, whether he barely got a fingernail on it at all, and they will look at the film and say "good job"


So, it's your contention that a breakdown in the O-line absolves the QB from any responsibility to make a smart play ......... apparently you have low expectations for Romo and for the team.

I will say this though - IF Romo were trying to throw the ball away, which I doubt very much, then it would have been a smart play. I will agree with that.

But like I said before, if that's what he was doing he did a poor job of it, because when throwing a ball away a QB had better leave no doubt - not even the possibility of a fingernail touching it.
 

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ejthedj;1583549 said:
Ok, everybody keeps saying Romo missed Witten for a TD because that's what the idiot announcers said.

But, on that play, Romo got creamed on a blitz. McQ missed a block, I'm pretty sure, and Romo just got the ball out. If you're throwing up a jump ball, who you gonna throw to?

Obviously, TO was first progression. That's All Romo had time for on that play. Rewatch it. If Witten is his 2nd progression, and we get the block, I have no doubt Romo finds him.

I don't know about the other one he supposedly missed, to Fasano

From my perspective, and I was sitting right even with that play in the upper deck. The way it looked to me. Since Romo was under some pressure, he looked to TO. Witten made his break to get open adter Tony was in motion to go to TO. If the OL would have made their blocks. Tony would have had time to make his read on Jason, and / or had time to pull it down and throw to Jason.
 

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Stautner;1583763 said:
I already said I didn't expect him to be and that I wasn't worried about this.

Apparently you are one of those irrational posters who cannot focus on a specific topic.

Guys like you view a comment that a guy screwed up one play as meaning the guy sucks and screwed up the entire game.

Now try and understand - we are analyzing a single play ONLY - I am not commenting about Romo in general and I am not saying this is a defining play ...........

Now try and grasp that before responding.
Dude, are you for real ?

Romo was 10-11. ... Grasp that !

You called Romo out for everything from his pre-snap read, to his pocket presence, to his decision making, to his pass itself.

And then get bent out of shape when other posters think that is funny, and anal.

When a QB is 10-11, (in the rare time that you will ever see that), just relax and think about the 10 completions and don't try to overanalyze the ONE incompletion.

So glad to know that you don't expect Romo to be perfect and that you really aren't worried about it.:laugh2:

Makes me wonder why you brought it up at all then.
 

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Aikman was an idiot on that call--on the replay, it seems like he didn't even see Romo get pressure and then after the fact he kinda backs down. Plus, I saw it live and realized he was throwing it away, making a smart football move--too high and hard for anyone--and Aikman starts saying negative things. I guess he's trying to be objective, like th Eagles comment and disowning the star on national TV.

Even good NFL QBs can be bad announcers, see Joe Theisman and Steve Young. Aikman is usually good, but he blew that one. And his attempts to be objective about the Boys back him into corners at times
 
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