Romo interview

Do players not hit hard in preseason? There are guys out there literally playing for their lives in preseason and you want them to slow up to give another ruthless player an opening at their job? I'm not questioning whether any QB would have been injured on the play, I'm saying any hint of calling Avril dirty is simply misguided homerism. The play wasn't "technically" anything. It was football and bad luck for Romo. In that same game, Elliott took on Chancellor to truck him and people cheered that to no end. Didn't Elliott know it was preseason and he didn't have to do that? Like I said, y'all need to make up your minds. Pick a football principle and actually stick to it whether your team benefits or not. Otherwise it's just bias pretending not to be bias.

What does trucking have to do with a sliding QB? You can’t hit a sliding QB plain and simple, unless your already engaged. That is the rules..

The point about ‘hitting hard’ was that he wasn’t just swiping for the ball and again, as I said even if one argues he was already engaged, none of that changes the point that the injury wasn’t because it was a ‘brittle’ Romo.. I’m not sure why your pointing out homerism, because that was a side remark, of which the main point was that it was pretty much standard football trauma. That was the main point and you bringing up principles and bias us just absurd and absolutely irrelevant.
 
I'd love to see Romo attempt a comeback... I'd still like our chances better than with Dak... Obviously per usual his (in)ability stay healthy would be the biggest issue, but I'm certain that Romo is still a much better passer than Dak. Romo's last pass of his career is still prettier than any pass I've ever seen from Dak. I said it in 2016, and it remains true in 2018, Romo > Prescott.
 
And it seems that people who liked him least as a player are now the most compassionate and concerned about his heath. Seeing that kind of change just brings a tear to my eye. If only we could all learn to love like that.
Honestly, I couldn’t care less about his health, from his personal life standpoint. These guys get paid a ton of money. I don’t root for injuries but I do root for hard hits and if someone gets laid out, that is the risk.

That said, I only care about his health to the extent of how much cap space is wasted for a player to become injured and useless. If Romo were low paid, there isn’t much risk. But he was highly paid and was high risk of injury. Not a good combination. It was time to move on for better or worse. Failing miserably gives the team the opportunity to get a better QB. I am fine with that rather than continuing to fail with Romo annually.
 
Honestly, I couldn’t care less about his health, from his personal life standpoint. These guys get paid a ton of money. I don’t root for injuries but I do root for hard hits and if someone gets laid out, that is the risk.

That said, I only care about his health to the extent of how much cap space is wasted for a player to become injured and useless. If Romo were low paid, there isn’t much risk. But he was highly paid and was high risk of injury. Not a good combination. It was time to move on for better or worse. Failing miserably gives the team the opportunity to get a better QB. I am fine with that rather than continuing to fail with Romo annually.
No chance if he came back it would be for a hefty check he is one of the higher football IQs still out there thats still capable of suiting up
 
No chance if he came back it would be for a hefty check he is one of the higher football IQs still out there thats still capable of suiting up
Little chance he remains healthy either. Some team would probably get bent over on a hefty cap hit.
 
Little chance he remains healthy either. Some team would probably get bent over on a hefty cap hit.
I doubt he gets hurt unless it’s a freak cheap shot like the Seattle preseason game and I’m sure romo goes down if he senses pressure he smart enough to not push the envelope and get down or throw it away. Word of big tuna “gotta have a mental clock tony”
 
I doubt he gets hurt unless it’s a freak cheap shot like the Seattle preseason game and I’m sure romo goes down if he senses pressure he smart enough to not push the envelope and get down or throw it away. Word of big tuna “gotta have a mental clock tony”
Let’s hope he doesn’t cripple himself with the spin move
 
I said it was technically ‘crossing the line’ and in another post, even if you are going to argue he engaged and Avril, couldn’t pull back, it was a pre-season game and Avril was clearly trying to hit hard.

And I even made a mistake in my original post. Avril wasn’t even engaged with Smith, he went around the outside of Doug Free and looped all the way around, meaning ran totally outside and came from behind and blind-sided Romo after he took off, meaning he basically was out of the play but kept coming.

Not sure what ‘playing hard’ has to do in the context of the rules that you can’t hit a sliding QB in the rules today.

Either case, none of that changes the fact the injury was textbook football trauma and would happen to anyone, meaning it was biomechanical and the standard healing time was 6 weeks without surgery.
This idea Romo was just chilling is a myth. He was sliding forward and Avril hit him and bent him forward.


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I don't think it was a dirty hit. Just bad timing.
 
Forget about television, radio, etc. and simply take this one internet fan site into account for a moment. CowboysZone has birthed so many Romo threads and posts over the years. I am only guessing but I would say it is safe saying they easily number in the thousands.

The content of all these posts has been really diverse. Pro. Con. Factual. Fabrication. Thoughful. Irrational. You name it. A Romo post or thread has seen it...

...but the most incredible comment that repeatedly resurfaces is alleged concern for Romo's welfare. Here we all are on CowboysZone, a site dedicated to the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League. Football. Not bowling. Not curling. Football. A sport where even kickers sometimes get <expletive> up.

As a whole, players deal with multitudes of injuries every day, while playing and after they leave the game behind them. Yet so many people are so... empathic... about a single guy. Person A says, 'Romo would be paralyzed. Poor Candice.' today, tomorrow, fives times on Saturday, watch the game Sunday (and take time to say it between downs), etc. It never stops. So many people are so gosh darn compassionate about Romo's well-being.

Just imagine the daily outpouring of written emotion taking the form of posts and threads directed at all the other players. Millions would flock to this site to be a part of such warm and loving sympathy of our fellow human beings!

Oh well. Guess we must settle for only being the best Cowboys fansite on the internet. :grin:

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What does trucking have to do with a sliding QB? You can’t hit a sliding QB plain and simple, unless your already engaged. That is the rules..

The point about ‘hitting hard’ was that he wasn’t just swiping for the ball and again, as I said even if one argues he was already engaged, none of that changes the point that the injury wasn’t because it was a ‘brittle’ Romo.. I’m not sure why your pointing out homerism, because that was a side remark, of which the main point was that it was pretty much standard football trauma. That was the main point and you bringing up principles and bias us just absurd and absolutely irrelevant.

You're intentionally being evasive and obtuse. It was very clear what I took issue with among your statements and that was that the play with Romo and Avril was borderline dirty. You then doubled down saying that Avril should have known it was preseason and was "trying to hit hard" as if there's a time not to do so. Romo didn't go into his slide until Avril already had his hand in the air to swipe down at the ball. I brought up Elliott because he "hit hard" at Kam Chancellor but everyone loved that in this preseason game. The actual Romo injury or "football trauma" was never a point of mine but I get why you continue to try to make it the main point between you and I as a cover. So do you support less than full-speed game play in preseason?
 
I'd love to see Romo attempt a comeback... I'd still like our chances better than with Dak... Obviously per usual his (in)ability stay healthy would be the biggest issue, but I'm certain that Romo is still a much better passer than Dak. Romo's last pass of his career is still prettier than any pass I've ever seen from Dak. I said it in 2016, and it remains true in 2018, Romo > Prescott.

This, that back shoulder fade against the egirls was a thing of beauty. Listen, I am not a big Romo guy BUT right now would take him in a heartbeat. I would carry his luggage into the fieldhouse for him.
 
Wrong.. he was sliding forward when he saw an oncoming LB like 7 yards away and blindsided from behind by a DL who was engaged with Smith when Romo took off to open field, and Romo was then folded into a seated position.

As spine doctors said, it was TEXTBOOK FOOTBALL TRAUMA, meaning that type of injury is basic for any athlete, and it wouldn’t prevent him from playing again, and would a six week healing period and they were right.

Further, technically the hit was crossing the line of a dirty hit because when a QB is sliding the defender has to back off to period.

People just got to keep making up stories to justify that we got a bum starting QB that can’t even throw past ten yards.

Calling it "basic football trauma" doesn't mean that hit would have had the same result with any football player, or that an aging player isn't more prone to "basic football trauma'. I'm sure that same doctor would say that a younger, stronger player would have been more likely to take that hit without injury.

I agree this hit and injury didn't automatically preclude Romo from ever playing again, but as many times as Romo had been injured over about a 14 month period (3 times), it's natural a team would worry about his body is holding up.

As for it crossing the line of a dirty hit, that's not true at all. The defender had already started lunging as Romo started his slide, and therefore the slide occurred too late to allow the defender an opportunity to back off. Accordingly, the defender was within the rules.
 
Calling it "basic football trauma" doesn't mean that hit would have had the same result with any football player, or that an aging player isn't more prone to "basic football trauma'. I'm sure that same doctor would say that a younger, stronger player would have been more likely to take that hit without injury.

I agree this hit and injury didn't automatically preclude Romo from ever playing again, but as many times as Romo had been injured over about a 14 month period (3 times), it's natural a team would worry about his body is holding up.

As for it crossing the line of a dirty hit, that's not true at all. The defender had already started lunging as Romo started his slide, and therefore the slide occurred too late to allow the defender an opportunity to back off. Accordingly, the defender was within the rules.

It’s like people argue just for the sake of arguing.

1. I know exactly what ‘basic football trauma’ means, because when I quoted the SPINE doctor, not OmerV, he stated exactly what it meant. He said that such types of injury are normal for elite football athletes, they would take around 6 weeks to heal on their own, meaning won’t requiee surgery and would not prevent Romo from playing again. And ‘magically’ Romo didn’t get surgery as they stated, Romo was practicing and throwing darts in 8 weeks, looked a million times better than Dak per reports and looked a million times better on the field.

So Mr. OmerV are you going to still argue nonsensically with me like you always tend to do?

2. And again, as I’ve saud a million times already, it’s possible one can argue the hit was crossing the line of being dirty, particularly in pre-season, I never said it was. You can tell me all day that he started after Romo started his slide and I will say, no he didn’t. At most, he started at the same time, but that’s not even true.

As I said over and over and over and over and over again, even if one tries to argue that Avril was already in the process of going for Romo when Romo began his slide and dived at him, NONE of it changed the fact that this injury was ‘textbook football trauma.

And of course none of this surprise me because of how much you’ve defended all the incompetent decisions of this organization and you Dak homers Are now changing course still need to seek recourse in the fact that Romo would definitely get injured, which you have no way of knowing, because you can’t defend Dak’s garbage play after spending so much time vested in the argument that Dak was the man. Now we’ve got you telling me what everything means when you never even read what the Spine doctors said in which I’ve quoted multiple times in this forum regarding Romo’s injury. But of course we are talking with Mr. OmerV who tells me what my own words mean and when or when I cannot use sarcasm with his imaginary rules of English.
 
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It’s like people argue just for the sake of arguing.

1. I know exactly what ‘basic football trauma’ means, because when I quoted your SPINE doctor, not OmerV, he stated exactly what it meant. He said that such types of injury are normal, they would take around 6 weeks to heal on their own and would not prevent Romo from playing again. And ‘magicall’, Romo didn’t get surgery as they stated, Romo was practicing and throwing darts in 8 weeks, looked a million times better than Dak per reports and looked a million times better on the field.

So Mr. OmerV are you going to still argue nonsensically with me like you always tend to do?

2. And again, as I’ve saud a million times already, it’s possible one can argue the hit was crossing the line of being dirty, particularly in pre-season, I never said it was. As I said over and over and over and over and over again, even if one tries to argue that Avril was already in the process of going for Romo when Romo began his slide and dived at him, NONE of it chanted the fact that this injury was ‘textbook football traima’.

1. Nothing you said, or that you say the doctor said, contradicts what I wrote. Saying it is a normal football injury just means that it is something that is seen in football, not that all players are equally susceptible regardless of age, strength, muscle tone, bone strength etc ....

2. You actually did say the hit was crossing the line (your words ... "technically the hit was crossing the line of dirty ..."). You didn't say those were the words of others, you wrote those words yourself. And, I disagree with them. "Technically" a slide has to occur early enough for the defender to have an opportunity to pull up. "Techinically" if the slide doesn't occur that early, there is no penalty. And that applies to preseason just like it does to regular season. There isn't a separate set of rules for preseason.

Even aside from the penalty aspect, how can it be "dirty" if a player starts a tackle before or simultaneous with the QB starting his slide? "Dirty" suggests intent, and if he started the process of the tackle with no knowledge of the slide, there was no intent.
 
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You're intentionally being evasive and obtuse. It was very clear what I took issue with among your statements and that was that the play with Romo and Avril was borderline dirty. You then doubled down saying that Avril should have known it was preseason and was "trying to hit hard" as if there's a time not to do so. Romo didn't go into his slide until Avril already had his hand in the air to swipe down at the ball. I brought up Elliott because he "hit hard" at Kam Chancellor but everyone loved that in this preseason game. The actual Romo injury or "football trauma" was never a point of mine but I get why you continue to try to make it the main point between you and I as a cover. So do you support less than full-speed game play in preseason?

Congratulations, Romo’s football trauma was never a point of yours, but it was the MAIN POINT OF MINE, which you were responding to. Let me make it clear for you:

You were responding to me, not I.

It is YOU that is trying to make what was not the subject of my post, a point between you and I.
So with that in mind, you taking issues with some imaginary premise is your own problem, that maybe you need to see a psychiatrist for.

And additionally my friend, my comments about it being pre-season were directed at people who continuously say Romo should have thrown the ball or way or not tried to make something happen, because it was pre-season. No matter how many times you bring up Elliott trucking somebody, none of that changes the fact in football, hitting a QB while sliding, whether pre-season or actual season is considered dirty by the rules itself. And actually if you were a coach, teams in pre-season are obviously not going all out at times, precisely to protect the players and get them into playing shape and avoid injury. It’s meaningless to the record.
 

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